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[DerHuhnTeufel]

Returning player after several years break, but I've died a few times over the last few days under some very questionable circumstances. Always destroyed my left torso, always from very high health and armor. It's worth noting I don't have any ammo in the left torso in any mech, and in some of them don't have any ammo at all.

The first time I was in a Death's Knell. literally went from full health to dead from a single medium laser blast. That was the only damage shown to me on the death screen and every other piece of my mech was still at full health.

The last few times have been in a Raven-3L. One time was a collision damage from almost full health, and the death camera showed no mech within 200m of me. Again, minor damage on the rest of the mech, left torso completely destroyed. Another time was from a small ER laser, and another time a moment ago was from a pirahna whose sole remaining weapons were 2 clan micro pulses. Again, greater than 75%, lots of armor remaining, dead in a single shot.

Due to the regularity that it's happening and the fact it only occurred after the last patch, I'm more inclined to think bug than cheat, probably related to critical hits. Anyone else experienced this lately?

[Grus]

Video would help.

[Bombast]

You may want to double check the name of who killed you against the end-of-match results page. Sounds like you're getting Guassed to death - It's a problem light mechs often have, especially if they're running slow.

EDIT: Video and pictures would help as well.

Also keep in mind that the death screen, which lists what damaged you last, isn't always 100% accurate. Especially when it comes to front loaded damage, it seems.

Edited by Bombast, 27 January 2018 - 03:28 PM.

[Davegt27]

I wont go near my light Mechs

[cinco]

[Redacted]

Edited by draiocht, 27 January 2018 - 10:32 PM.
unconstructive, replies removed

[DerHuhnTeufel]

Eh, I'll work on getting shadowplay going.

I doubt it's a random heavy attack from no where, though, since most of the time it's happened there haven't been any other mechs with big guns around or the LoS available for others to snipe at me.

I also really doubt it's hackers. Seems a bit too specific, especially the death from collision damage. That's why I think it's a bug with crits.

[Bulletsponge0]

DerHuhnTeufel, on 27 January 2018 - 03:24 PM, said:

Returning player after several years break, but I've died a few times over the last few days under some very questionable circumstances. Always destroyed my left torso, always from very high health and armor. It's worth noting I don't have any ammo in the left torso in any mech, and in some of them don't have any ammo at all.

The first time I was in a Death's Knell. literally went from full health to dead from a single medium laser blast. That was the only damage shown to me on the death screen and every other piece of my mech was still at full health.

The last few times have been in a Raven-3L. One time was a collision damage from almost full health, and the death camera showed no mech within 200m of me. Again, minor damage on the rest of the mech, left torso completely destroyed. Another time was from a small ER laser, and another time a moment ago was from a pirahna whose sole remaining weapons were 2 clan micro pulses. Again, greater than 75%, lots of armor remaining, dead in a single shot.

Due to the regularity that it's happening and the fact it only occurred after the last patch, I'm more inclined to think bug than cheat, probably related to critical hits. Anyone else experienced this lately?

the death screen only shows 1 weapon at a time. You could get hit with 6 MLs in your torso, and the death screen will simply say "Medium laser" without telling you how many of them hit you

[Christophe Ivanov]

Bulletsponge0, on 27 January 2018 - 07:45 PM, said:

the death screen only shows 1 weapon at a time. You could get hit with 6 MLs in your torso, and the death screen will simply say "Medium laser" without telling you how many of them hit you

If that's the case, perhaps it's time PGI fixed that to be accurate?

[James Argent]

Christophe Ivanov, on 27 January 2018 - 08:45 PM, said:

If that's the case, perhaps it's time PGI fixed that to be accurate?

The end of game screen wouldn't stay up long enough for me to scroll through all of the hits I took in some matches.

[UnofficialOperator]

In before XL engine

[Requiemking]

UnofficialOperator, on 27 January 2018 - 09:19 PM, said:

In before XL engine

I think it goes without saying that he was using XL, or else he wouldn't be dying to a single ST loss. I think he is more arguing the specific circumstances of each death, how it always occurs with Lights and it is always the left torso. Pics and/or vids would help of course, but it might be worth looking into.

[MechaBattler]

That's just a particular risk you run now at days in lights. What with people running pin point weapon damage or super high alphas. Unless the light comes with armor quirks. Gotta be extra careful. ;o

[UnofficialOperator]

Requiemking, on 27 January 2018 - 10:04 PM, said:

I think it goes without saying that he was using XL, or else he wouldn't be dying to a single ST loss. I think he is more arguing the specific circumstances of each death, how it always occurs with Lights and it is always the left torso. Pics and/or vids would help of course, but it might be worth looking into.

Shrug, I don't think OP realizes that. Why its always left torso is because its easier to shoot the left side of the body.

[Relishcakes]

DerHuhnTeufel, on 27 January 2018 - 03:24 PM, said:

Returning player after several years break, but I've died a few times over the last few days under some very questionable circumstances. Always destroyed my left torso, always from very high health and armor. It's worth noting I don't have any ammo in the left torso in any mech, and in some of them don't have any ammo at all.

The first time I was in a Death's Knell. literally went from full health to dead from a single medium laser blast. That was the only damage shown to me on the death screen and every other piece of my mech was still at full health.

The last few times have been in a Raven-3L. One time was a collision damage from almost full health, and the death camera showed no mech within 200m of me. Again, minor damage on the rest of the mech, left torso completely destroyed. Another time was from a small ER laser, and another time a moment ago was from a pirahna whose sole remaining weapons were 2 clan micro pulses. Again, greater than 75%, lots of armor remaining, dead in a single shot.

Due to the regularity that it's happening and the fact it only occurred after the last patch, I'm more inclined to think bug than cheat, probably related to critical hits. Anyone else experienced this lately?

If its been a few years then you probably havent had a second to notice all the power creep. I pilot a cougar(35 tonner) with a 76pt alpha. Its gotten real. you're likely not being hit with JUST a medium laser. you're probably getting hit with everything but the kitchen sink and that was all you noticed. Half the time when i get murdered I dont get to see what all killed me either. You probably got alpha'd.

[Water Bear]

This actually just happened to me.

https://drive.google...gKM_RxYJ1U9ti5D

There were 2 or 3 enemy mechs that could have shot me, and I'm sure they did. But then my torso exploded...granted, I was in a Jagermech, but the destroyed torso was at yellow armor. As you can see in the screenshot, they didn't go through my rear armor.

The death was instant. Someone either did enough PPFLD in a single alpha to blow through a Jager's right torso and structure, or something weird happened.

Notice that my death was due to collision damage.

[Brain Cancer]

Were you, perchance being hugged by an enemy at the time?

Pointblank projectile hits can do some really funky things, especially if someone's ballistic is clipping inside the opponent at the time.

[Water Bear]

Brain Cancer, on 28 January 2018 - 02:24 PM, said:

Were you, perchance being hugged by an enemy at the time?

Pointblank projectile hits can do some really funky things, especially if someone's ballistic is clipping inside the opponent at the time.

Nope. I derped in my movements and got in front of 3 or so bad people, but they were a solid 200 meters away. I anticipated being shot, but since my RT was in decent shape I did not anticipate instant (and I mean instant) death.

Edit: On second thought, I was standing in an odd place in terms of map geometry...

Edited by Water Bear, 28 January 2018 - 02:36 PM.

[Bulletsponge0]

Water Bear, on 28 January 2018 - 02:13 PM, said:

This actually just happened to me.

https://drive.google...gKM_RxYJ1U9ti5D

There were 2 or 3 enemy mechs that could have shot me, and I'm sure they did. But then my torso exploded...granted, I was in a Jagermech, but the destroyed torso was at yellow armor. As you can see in the screenshot, they didn't go through my rear armor.

The death was instant. Someone either did enough PPFLD in a single alpha to blow through a Jager's right torso and structure, or something weird happened.

Notice that my death was due to collision damage.

the bottom weapon is what killed you... looks like you took a dual heavy gauss hit...

[Water Bear]

Bulletsponge0, on 28 January 2018 - 03:17 PM, said:

the bottom weapon is what killed you... looks like you took a dual heavy gauss hit...

It's possible that lag caused it. I heard nothing and saw no indicators of impacts, then suddenly died. Could be an angry god catching up to me...

Edited by Water Bear, 28 January 2018 - 03:44 PM.

[Bulletsponge0]

Water Bear, on 28 January 2018 - 03:41 PM, said:

It's possible that lag caused it. I heard nothing and saw no indicators of impacts, then suddenly died. Could be an angry god catching up to me...

You sure your armor was fresh? Could have had only 49 armor left on that component, the 50 breached it and then the gauss did its magical RNG crit thing...