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Which Mech Variants Can Mount Ecm?

Started by Exilyth, Feb 19 2018 03:35 PM
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#1 Exilyth

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Posted 19 February 2018 - 03:35 PM

I'm not a new player and I already have a list, but I guess this might also help new players.
And I'm sure I've overlooked a few variants.

Can you help me complete the list?
(List last updated 18.05.2018)

(for omnimechs, I'll only count the variants which come with ECM - ofc, all other variants can be pod swapped into having ECM)


Inner Sphere

Assault
Atlas AS7-D-DC 100t
Cyclops CP-11-P 90t
Stalker STK-3FB 85t
Nightstar NSR-10P 95t
Fafnir FNR-5 100t
Fafnir FNR-5B 100t
Fafnir FNR-? 100t (Wrath - hero mech)

Heavy
Cataphract CTF-0XP 70t
Archer ARC-T 70t (Tempest - hero mech)
Thanatos TNS-** 75t (ALL variants)

Medium
Cicada CDA-3M 40t
Griffin GRF-2N 55t
Phoenix Hawk PHX-1B 45t (the 'Pixie' has two ECM variants)
Phoenix Hawk PHX-2 45t
Assasin ASN-DD 40t (Dark Death - hero mech)
Assasin ASN-27 40t
Hellspawn HSN-7D/8E 45t
Hellspawn HSN-7D2 (Paralyzer - hero mech)
Enforcer ENF-GH 50t (Ghillie - hero mech)

Light
Commando COM-2D 25t
Raven RVN-3L 35t
Spider SDR-5D 30t
Locust LCT-PB 20t (Pirates Bane aka. Peanut Butter - hero mech)
Javelin JVN-11B 30t
Wolfhound WLF-GR 35t (Grinner - hero mech)

Clan

Assault
Marauder IIC MAD-IIC-D 85t (ECM in CT - battlemech, NOT an omni)
Blood Asp BAS-B 90t (omni - ECM in CT)
Blood Asp BAS-A 90t (omni - ECM in CT)

Heavy
Sun Spider SNS-D 70t (omni - ECM in LT)
Hellbringer HBR-Prime 65t (omni - ECM in LT)

Medium
Shadow Cat SHC-B 45t (omni - ECM in LT)
Arctic Wolf ACW-A 45t (omni - ECM in RT)
Ice Ferret IFR-RC 45t (rainbow crow - hero mech, omni - ECM in CT)
Black Lanner BKL-Prime/BKL-A 55t (omni - ECM in head, not available yet)

Light
Cougar COU-H 35t (omni - ECM in head)
Arctic Cheetah ACH-Prime 30t (omni - ECM in LT)
Kit Fox KFX-C 30t (omni - ECM in RA)
Kit Fox KFX-G 30t (omni - ECM in LA)
Mist Lynx MLX-C 25t (omni - ECM in LA)


On ECM usage:
ECM makes you not show a red triangle (targeting dorito) above you head when the enemy is too far away. This makes you harder to see and prevents the enemy from getting target locks on you.
Within the distance, enemies can target you normally and "ECM" shows up near your dorito.
ECm also hides teammates within 90m of an ECm equipped mech.
The distance of ECM protection depends on skill points invested in the sensors tree:

View PostAndi Nagasia, on 17 May 2017 - 08:44 AM, said:

yes,
ECM used to hide your mech up to 0.75(75% of Enemies Radar Distance or 200m)
which meant that at 200m or below enemies could see you as if you didnt have ECM,

the new base is 0.30(30%) which is 560m(under this enemies can see you)
with 1ECM-Node 0.52ish(52ish%) which is 382m(under this enemies can see you)
with both ECM-Node 0.75ish(75%) which is 200m Again(under this enemies can see you)


So, it is best to skill both ECM nodes on a mech equipped with ECM to get the most out of this equipment.

Do note that ECM is required for Inner Sphere mechs to be able to equip stealth armour.



Edit: added in variants mentioned by Zh0u, Horseman, Dragonfighter19, CoffeeKitty, Gluten

Edited by Exilyth, 24 May 2018 - 02:42 PM.

#2 Zh0u

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Posted 19 February 2018 - 03:36 PM

Black Lanner (Omni Mech - in Head)
Wolfhound (Grinner, Hero mech)
Enforcer (Ghillie - Hero mech)

Edited by Zh0u, 19 February 2018 - 03:39 PM.

#3 Kin3ticX

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Posted 19 February 2018 - 06:47 PM

good list, might want to mention you need both ECM skills or LRM mechs can still getcha without tag

#4 Spare Parts Bin

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Posted 19 February 2018 - 08:07 PM

View PostKin3ticX, on 19 February 2018 - 06:47 PM, said:

good list, might want to mention you need both ECM skills or LRM mechs can still getcha without tag


You can also dumb fire ATMs.

#5 Horseman

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Posted 20 February 2018 - 07:41 AM

View PostSpare Parts Bin, on 19 February 2018 - 08:07 PM, said:

You can also dumb fire ATMs.
He's not talking about dumbfire.
ECM works by reducing the range at which enemy sensors detect your presence - that reduction is relative to enemy sensor range and depends on the ECM skills you purchased in the Sensors tree.
Without ECM skills, your ECM only reduces enemy sensor range by 30%, meaning you can be locked from as far away as 560m (this is with an enemy who doesn't have any sensor range buffs, mind you).

#6 Zh0u

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Posted 20 February 2018 - 09:09 AM

Always up full ECM skills in an ECM mech. If not, it just defeats the purpose of having ECM. :)

#7 Exilyth

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Posted 20 February 2018 - 09:43 AM

Ok, I've added info on ECM distance to the top post.
Thank you everyone.

Is there any variant I missed?

Edited by Exilyth, 20 February 2018 - 09:51 AM.

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Posted 20 February 2018 - 04:28 PM

KFX-G, and I think Black Lanner?

#9 Spare Parts Bin

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Posted 20 February 2018 - 04:42 PM

View PostExilyth, on 20 February 2018 - 09:43 AM, said:

Ok, I've added info on ECM distance to the top post.
Thank you everyone.

Is there any variant I missed?


Not that I know of. The Stalker 3 FB is awesome.

#10 Exilyth

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 01:17 PM

View PostHorseman, on 20 February 2018 - 04:28 PM, said:

KFX-G, and I think Black Lanner?


Black Lanner is already in.

Looking at the Kit Fox, the KFX-G left arm and KFX-C right arm both provide an ECM hardpoint - can you equip more than one ECM? Does it give any advantage?

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 02:05 PM

View PostExilyth, on 21 February 2018 - 01:17 PM, said:

Looking at the Kit Fox, the KFX-G left arm and KFX-C right arm both provide an ECM hardpoint - can you equip more than one ECM? Does it give any advantage?


Only one ECM.
G left arm allows you to use PRIME right arm (if for some reason you had a build that made good use of that). There's also a bit of psych advantage for frankenbuilds - other players see an ECM KFX, they may assume they should target your RA (especially if you use C's RA and stick AMS there)

#12 Exilyth

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 02:57 PM

Moving the ECM to the other arm is indeed a nice build trick if you're going for AMS.

Thank you.

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 07:23 AM

Nice list.

The Thanatos is 75 tons, though.

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 05:51 AM

View PostRoland09, on 22 February 2018 - 07:23 AM, said:

Nice list.

The Thanatos is 75 tons, though.


I don't have any of those and probably won't anytime soon. I have bought many IS Mech Bundles and a Standard Clan Pack of Linebackers.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 05:37 AM

requesting an update, BAS-B and BAS-A torso's both have ECM fits in the CT, and all of variants are omni.

90 tonner, clan assault

Edited by CoffeeKitty, 16 May 2018 - 05:38 AM.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 06:35 AM

IS 100T Assault

Fafnir FNR-5

Fafnir FNR-5B

Fafnir Wrath (Hero Mech)

#17 Exilyth

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 02:32 PM

Ok, Blasp and Fafnir added. If anything is missing, please do tell.

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Posted 24 May 2018 - 05:38 AM

The Sunspider D Configuration. It's located in the Left Torso

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Posted 24 May 2018 - 05:37 PM

I think that is it, until PGI drops some more weapons of War.

#20 Gojira Goth I-HOP Mecrenary

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Posted 17 December 2018 - 05:28 PM

Not to necro bump but the Flea-20 needs to be added
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