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Does 'clan Assault' And 'brawl' Belong In The Same Sentence?


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#1 Odd Thomas

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Posted 27 February 2018 - 01:01 PM

Any Clan assaults stand out as a top toe-to-toe brawler or is it an IS thing?

Would like to give it a try.

Thanks.

#2 Windscape

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Posted 27 February 2018 - 01:05 PM

If you want a brawler you can buy a scorch or the madcat 2 w 4 missles

#3 Hit the Deck

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Posted 27 February 2018 - 09:58 PM

What he said^

MCII-2 with 4x SRM6 + Artemis and 2x LBX-20

Maybe not toe-to-toe but more like as an opportunist. It has a big alpha and you'll wreck a lot of 'mechs.

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Posted 27 February 2018 - 10:36 PM

View PostHit the Deck, on 27 February 2018 - 09:58 PM, said:

What he said^

MCII-2 with 4x SRM6 + Artemis and 2x LBX-20

Maybe not toe-to-toe but more like as an opportunist. It has a big alpha and you'll wreck a lot of 'mechs.



Might I ask how ? I tried that and I cannot fit in a second lbx20 . I don't have the slot space on the second arm . Are you giving up on max armour or what ?

#5 Windscape

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 10:05 AM

View PostDarkFhoenix, on 27 February 2018 - 10:36 PM, said:



Might I ask how ? I tried that and I cannot fit in a second lbx20 . I don't have the slot space on the second arm . Are you giving up on max armour or what ?


Here is how i would build it
MCII-2
You can tune this build to suit your prefrences (less ammo more engine, less ammo more heatsinks, less heatsinks more engine, etc).

Edited by Windscape, 28 February 2018 - 10:05 AM.


#6 Spare Parts Bin

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 10:38 AM

I brawl with a Direwolf UV I call it Alamo. Usually 4 AC-2s (although UAC-2 would be better), 3 ERLLs, and either an LRM-15 in the CT or an SRM-6 in the Left torso and another in the CT.

#7 Odd Thomas

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 07:42 PM

MCII-2 with 2x LBX-20 and 4x ASRM6. Understood.

But with Scorch would you go:

4X SRM 6 without Artemis
or
2 X ASRM6 + 2 X ASRM4 ?

Thanks

Edited by Odd Thomas, 28 February 2018 - 07:45 PM.


#8 InspectorG

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 07:46 PM

Mr. Gargles used to brawl well.... until the C-spl nerf.

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 08:19 PM

View PostOdd Thomas, on 27 February 2018 - 01:01 PM, said:

Any Clan assaults stand out as a top toe-to-toe brawler or is it an IS thing?

Would like to give it a try.

Thanks.


I just put together a BLR-1G with one HPPC,a AC-10, 4 Medium Lasers,and a Rocket Pod 20. Judging by how well my K2( fusion of Ash & Baradul builds)does this should be even better.

Edited by Spare Parts Bin, 28 February 2018 - 08:20 PM.


#10 C H E E K I E Z

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 08:39 PM

View PostOdd Thomas, on 27 February 2018 - 01:01 PM, said:

Any Clan assaults stand out as a top toe-to-toe brawler or is it an IS thing?

Would like to give it a try.

Thanks.


I never see these in the game anymore, and it makes me sad, they used to be so good with full armor quirks, then structure quirks, they arent as tanky as they used to be but still make amazing brawlers on IS, and Clan.

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#11 Windscape

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 10:48 PM

View PostC H E E K I E Z, on 28 February 2018 - 08:39 PM, said:


I never see these in the game anymore, and it makes me sad, they used to be so good with full armor quirks, then structure quirks, they arent as tanky as they used to be but still make amazing brawlers on IS, and Clan.

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People probably dont use em bc an orion IIC A can do the same.

#12 Spare Parts Bin

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 05:40 AM

I have that Mech and have never tried that loadout.

#13 Hit the Deck

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 07:51 AM

View PostC H E E K I E Z, on 28 February 2018 - 08:39 PM, said:

I never see these in the game anymore, and it makes me sad, they used to be so good with full armor quirks, then structure quirks, they arent as tanky as they used to be but still make amazing brawlers on IS, and Clan.

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It's because MCII-2, Scorch, and the HGN-IIC Hero can do better because of their ability to equip 2 ballistics. I don't think that HGN-IIC's buffs are worth losing a ballistic weapon.

View PostDarkFhoenix, on 27 February 2018 - 10:36 PM, said:

Might I ask how ? I tried that and I cannot fit in a second lbx20 . I don't have the slot space on the second arm . Are you giving up on max armour or what ?

Something like this: MCII-2

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 08:38 AM

Standard scorch builds
Apply same builds to MCII-1 ( I think, could be the 2)
2UAC10 2UAC5 MCII-B

Don't dismiss the OrionIIC LBX20+4srm6 either (though 75 tons).

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 05:55 PM

Isn't the UAC-20 superior to the LBX-20?

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 06:08 PM

View PostSpare Parts Bin, on 01 March 2018 - 05:55 PM, said:

Isn't the UAC-20 superior to the LBX-20?

The UAC-20 triggers ghost heat at 2 so a pair of them with SRMs will be too hot to handle well. SRMs are going to spread damage naturally too, so LBX's work well with them.

Edited by Roughneck45, 01 March 2018 - 06:12 PM.


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Posted 01 March 2018 - 06:12 PM

View PostRoughneck45, on 01 March 2018 - 06:08 PM, said:

The UAC-20 triggers ghost heat at 2 so a pair of them with SRMs will be too hot to handle well. SRMs are going to spread damage naturally too, so LBX's pair well with them.

So it is a sandblaster?

#18 justcallme A S H

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 06:13 PM

Damn right you can Clan Brawl... Here is another SNV with SKILL MAZE. Easily 1500dmg capable and the JJ makes it nicely manouverale to spread dmg.

You can Alpha 3 times before you need to stop shooting lasers or SRMs but it cools fast. It also has one of the better cSRM spreads due to mounts of weapons.

Edited by justcallme A S H, 01 March 2018 - 06:14 PM.


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Posted 01 March 2018 - 06:16 PM

View PostSpare Parts Bin, on 01 March 2018 - 06:12 PM, said:

So it is a sandblaster?

Yeah, its like a shotgun. The spread is mitigated though because you are trying to get close for the SRMs anyway, so there is good synergy there, just aim center mass.

LBX's have a higher crit chance too, so that's a bonus.

Edited by Roughneck45, 01 March 2018 - 06:17 PM.


#20 Vanguard319

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 06:29 PM

I do pretty well with a Warhawk Prime w 4 ER PPCs. I know it's not an ideal setup for brawling, but if you know how to set up your weapon groups and skills, it's quite possible keep your heat under control enough to brawl.





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