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[Metus regem]

EnochsBook, on 01 March 2018 - 02:10 PM, said:

So PGI's way to address the concerns regarding the Piranha is to give the IS an equivalent?
I'm not sure how I feel about this.

Sadly it's not an equivalent to the Piranha, to be the equivalent it would need to be 5-10t heavier and have 10/12 B hard points while moving at the same speed as the Piranha....

[The Lighthouse]

Basically 2.5 ton of ammo for 8 machinegun and 1ton laser, or 3 tons of ammo if use 0.5ton laser, but IS Small is really bad so basically 2.5 ton of ammo.

It's worse version of piranha unless quirks are involved.

[ramp4ge]

What's the available tonnage? I think someone said 7.5 earlier? Is that with the std or an lfe?

Replace the std with a lfe and you'll gain quite a bit, along with the endo frame.

0.5 tons for 6 is 3 tons, 3 small lasers is 1.5 more tons. That leaves 3 tons for ammo.

[Nema Nabojiv]

Yay! 4 heatsinks to cool 8 machineguns! (no)

[Alex Morgaine]

It's here!

[EnochsBook]

So basically, its viability is entirely dependent on quirks, which we will not have access to until the 'Mech is released and which may change a later point?

[The Lighthouse]

FupDup, on 01 March 2018 - 02:07 PM, said:

How much armor are you stripping?

8 MG Flea Impersonator

Something is wrong with that setup. I cannot recreate that build on actual in-game mechlab.

You can use Ferro if you downgrade to single heatsink.

Edited by The Lighthouse, 01 March 2018 - 02:18 PM.

[N0ni]

The Flea had it's own concept art years before the Piranha was even considered. I see it as a "data collection" for MGs for further "balancing" (and you know how well this will go). IS doesn't really have MG lights other than the Spider 5K and Locust 1V, while the clans have multiple Piranhas, Arctic Cheetah and Mist Lynx. This is a welcomed addition, especially with more ballistics (the 19 and Fire Ant).

[Bombast]

FupDup, on 01 March 2018 - 02:07 PM, said:

How much armor are you stripping?

8 MG Flea Impersonator

13 from the head, with Ferro.

https://mwo.smurfy-n...6a57b003c1e0f98

EDIT: You'll have to go SHS, but it's Machine Guns.

Edited by Bombast, 01 March 2018 - 02:21 PM.

[Steve Pryde]

Wow, what a boring mech.

[Nightbird]

Nan... losing 3 slots to the engine cap kills this mech compared to the locust on energy builds and also the MG build is completely worthless due to IS weapon weight. As a light pilot.. pass.

[ForceUser]

The Lighthouse, on 01 March 2018 - 01:48 PM, said:

It is not Hollander, but this is the mech everyone should buy.

One day man, one day.

and it will be glorious

[suffocater]

FupDup, on 01 March 2018 - 02:04 PM, said:

They must really be running out of ideas if they want to re-release the Locust.

Anyways, for speed calculations...
Base: 137.7
MASC: 20%
Tweak: 7.5%

MASC'd speed without tweak: 165.24
Maximum possible speed: 175.5675

Looks like we've either got a new speed cap for the game, or PGI is gonna nerf the MASC and/or the Flea's speed to make it work (which defeats the entire purpose of even having it).

For reference, the current highest speed is 167.1625 kph on a Commando with speed tweak.

Isn't MASC MK1 only 10%?

Then I calculate something about 162.83 kph.

[SuperMCDad]

Would it have killed them to make the engine cap 175, allowing an extra included heatsink. Not cool PGI, not cool.

[Khobai]

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Isn't MASC MK1 only 10%?

no its 20%

max speed should be around 177kph

[Bishop Steiner]

yay?

Ghetto Locust FTW?

Happy for the like 12 people who actually have been clamoring for it (it's nice when people get mechs they love, for whatever reason), I just hope they are some realistic as to what they are actually gonna get.

Which is a not a lot.

I just wish it actually looked like... IDK... a Flea?

[TheArisen]

The IS is it's own worst enemy....

[Metus regem]

TheArisen, on 01 March 2018 - 02:38 PM, said:

The IS is it's own worst enemy....

yup... If the HG issue wasn't going on right now, I think the Wasp or Stinger would've been much better choices... granted they wouldn't be any faster than the Flea, but at least they have 6 JJ's....

[Bishop Steiner]

Metus regem, on 01 March 2018 - 02:40 PM, said:

yup... If the HG issue wasn't going on right now, I think the Wasp or Stinger would've been much better choices... granted they wouldn't be any faster than the Flea, but at least they have 6 JJ's....

DOubt we'd see them, either way. Be dumb to add them before MW5. But we could have had an Argus, or Chimera, or some of the other chassis.

[SuperMCDad]

So yeah. With a 170XL, endo, FF and 4 std heat sinks, you're left with 7.5T and 13 slots to work with (after stripping the head to 5). Hmmm. It's not a lot. It is 1T more than a max engine locust though.