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[Darian DelFord]

So here is a video of a match I had about 3 hours ago. In it I scored over 1k damage. Now there are many pilots on here who say that it is OP and no light should be able to score that high and it must be an OP mech. People see scores like this and lets face it.... they lose their crap and come to the forums and scream NERF NERF NERF.

So with that said.... here is the video.....Judge..... just flat out OP..... or Skill and luck?

[Nightbird]

Nice match! Lights are especially good at back coring distracted mechs, which is what you did.

Have you been running the piranha exclusively this season? I see you having a 117 light games with a respectable 1.3 WLR and 1.5 kills per match. If this is all Piranha, then it belongs in the good mech category.

[LordNothing]

i saw one get ace and he totally deserved it.

[UnofficialOperator]

No lazors??? Heresy!!!

[Scout Derek]

Good match. Seems like a lot of the enemy players were potato though. nonetheless, pretty good.

[Roughneck45]

A solo kill against an AFK/DC
A 2v1 against a sunspider.
A rear kill against a Warhawk with Lurms, presumed a potato.
Chewed the legs on a light.
Chewed the back of another potato in a sunspider.
Mopped up with the rest of your team.

I'd say you earned it. When you are able to get that much damage in on someones back without them torso twisting in the slightest... *shrugs*

Edited by Roughneck45, 21 March 2018 - 07:55 PM.

[DeadEye COTP]

I'd say a mix between good piloting and an enemy team apparently made of potatoes with zero situational awareness.


It was a joke a long time ago because Russ once said a spider with 6 mg's would destroy everything. Now we have something that can boat 12.

[El Bandito]

Zorndyke has a video where he got Ace of Spades with a Pirate's Bane. I guess Lights are OP in general.

[N0MAD]

Games of opportunity come up, you were presented quite a few easy opps, but still those MGs arent right, look at the time it took to take out an undamaged mech (the first afk kill) mere seconds,and add up the firing time for the game, so much damage so little on target time, same ol bs.

[Lethe Wyvern]

Nice ride, potatoes were farmed and they are deserved it.

Roughneck45, on 21 March 2018 - 07:54 PM, said:

When you are able to get that much damage in on someones back without them torso twisting in the slightest... *shrugs*

Thats about ammo exploision and/or ST farming. So if you crit 1 ton of LBX5 ammo it will give you 30x5=150 dmg and then you crit ton of C-SRM ammo 100x2=200 dmg and its 350 dmg in sum.

p.s. Piranha is not OP, but stacking crazy amount of regular MG give that insane crit. Nerf crit chance and buff damage a bit.

Edited by Lethe Wyvern, 21 March 2018 - 10:11 PM.

[Curccu]

Darian DelFord, on 21 March 2018 - 07:12 PM, said:

So with that said.... here is the video.....Judge..... just flat out OP..... or Skill and luck?

1st Roughneck luck, no skill involved
2nd Sunspider, already engaged with other allies, shooting back of a mech that totally ignores you doesn't require skill either.
3rd Warhawk same as 2nd Sunspider
4th Arctic cheater, pretty much all of the armor stripped from the legs already... good shooting, but nothing that other lights could not have done with same effectiveness.
5th good strike pointblank at least 4 hits to enemies, that MKII could have killed you but wasn't able to aim.
6th Marauder same as 2nd Sunspider
7th MKII same as 2nd Sunspider

Well played nothing OP to see here.

[Lupis Volk]

Well back when i was active. 1-2 years ago, most people tended to ignore lights.

[Old dirty B]

Good example what happens when you play with simpletons... you exploited that well (as a light pilot should).

[roekenny]

We've all have those games where we are utter gods of death. I've had it in a jenner-ICC 6* srm6 monstrosity and soloed half the team before the rest of team decided to move in as both sides were potatoes, a pirates bane 2 airstrikes and face hugging 2 assaults on bog so was neigh impossible to hit, kill securing left right and center most recent was a kitfox just non stop poking at front lines and just not been singled out as who cares about 4 medium lasers.

One good game where the stars align don't mean much, I mean good for you that captured that moment and I've seen a few other pir-1 also get 1000 but if they are doing their job right and reds letting them do it unmolested I should hope they do get 1000+ damage as their job is to harvest open components, but I've seen many other lights variants do the same thing as I believe if lop off a torso the arm is also included in the damage values but I can't remember been a while since looked that up.

[Dragonporn]

You can score over 1k damage in pretty much any mech built for combat, especially in stuff like Piranha, which specializes on this. I'm pretty sure everyone had some matches where they scored some crazy DMG even in extremely goofy experimental builds, but it doesn't make any of it OP. If someone would be able to score 1k+ dmg in PIR or any other mech every single match, now that would be something to talk about.

[Vellron2005]

If you ask me, Piranha is OP.

Why do I claim this?

Because it seems to me that it's alot easier for a Piranha to do good than for other light mechs..

Let's compare the Piranha to the other clan MG boat, the Myst Lynx.. How do you think they would fare when going 1 vs 1?

Then let's see how long it takes a 12 MG Piranha to kill a Direwolf? If it's on it's back - seconds. How is that ok?

[Curccu]

Vellron2005, on 22 March 2018 - 01:22 AM, said:

Then let's see how long it takes a 12 MG Piranha to kill a Direwolf? If it's on it's back - seconds. How is that ok?

Then let's see how long it takes a dual gauss Direwolf to kill a Piranha ? If it's on it's back - split second. How is that ok?

[Kiiyor]

Darian DelFord, on 21 March 2018 - 07:12 PM, said:

So here is a video of a match I had about 3 hours ago. In it I scored over 1k damage. Now there are many pilots on here who say that it is OP and no light should be able to score that high and it must be an OP mech. People see scores like this and lets face it.... they lose their crap and come to the forums and scream NERF NERF NERF.

So with that said.... here is the video.....Judge..... just flat out OP..... or Skill and luck?

Not OP at all - I often see assaults and heavies get that, and do it often enough myself, and those are mechs that can perform well all game, instead of the little fish, which really shines in the second half of a battle.

Nice run.

[Lethe Wyvern]

Vellron2005, on 22 March 2018 - 01:22 AM, said:

Let's compare the Piranha to the other clan MG boat, the Myst Lynx.. How do you think they would fare when going 1 vs 1?

pir vs mlx? Depends on :
1) pilots (are they equal or what?)
2) what wepps (lmg or mg, ersl or hsl/flamers)
3) location (high grounds, really big rocks, alot of high buildings/constructions, deep craters)
Due these conditions lmg-ersl mlx can easily beat regular mg-hsl piranha with height kiting and chewing it from ~320 ish meters. But mlx boated with regular mgs and ersl most likely will be farmed at flat location versus 12mg 3hsl piranha.
I just trying to figure out, how you gonna compare these sooo diferent mechs just putting one of them at a disadvantage?

[Jackal Noble]

Nightbird, on 21 March 2018 - 07:32 PM, said:

Nice match! Lights are especially good at back coring distracted mechs, which is what you did.

Have you been running the piranha exclusively this season? I see you having a 117 light games with a respectable 1.3 WLR and 1.5 kills per match. If this is all Piranha, then it belongs in the good mech category.

ummm ya. Some pilots don't stroke their epeen like you do Nightbird. Some of us drop in varied builds and don't run the exact same mech all of the time. IE skilling multiple new mechs every month.