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[Cy Mitchell]

Matt,

Can the ala carte choices for the Clan Wave I, II, III be included in the sale? I have an invasion variant that I want to buy but I do not want to buy a bunch of mechs from a lower Tier of the pack that I do not want to get it. If it cannot be done for some reason then just let me know and I will stop asking. Thanks.

[Khalcruth]

Matt Newman, on 22 March 2018 - 11:41 AM, said:

I'm feeling like this event is at least a 9/10 on the D V Devnull Event Rating System.

Why on earth would anyone care about that?

[Marius Evander]

D V Devnull, on 22 March 2018 - 12:09 PM, said:

• EDIT -- By the way, "Scouting" Mode is still allowed, right? I can smell a lot of angry people if it's not...

I know a lot of angry people that it is allowed. Should be seperate events for scouting and FP.

Matt Newman, on 22 March 2018 - 12:42 PM, said:

I think you have to be aligned but if you break your contracts there is no punishment and no cool down period.

Speaking of that, can we all get our rank we lost back in that system we were told would never get changed back now ? I want my smoke jag rank back =( Cadoazazel.

James Argent, on 22 March 2018 - 12:24 PM, said:

Spoiler

The only comment I have is that you set it up so that there is no real point to having a 50 match score threshold...the event still requires people to achieve 100 match score loot bags the exact same number of times as they achieve 50 match score loot bags to finish the event. You may as well have just kept it simpler with 'two loot bags for every 100 match score achieved.' Nobody's going to attempt to get less than 100 match score, and nobody's going to hit their 50 loot bags for 50 match score and call it quits if they had a few bad matches where they didn't hit 100 match score.

You may not want to have one loot bag for EVERY 50 match score achieved per match, (I can tell that request will be in here somewhere) but...c'mon, what's the point of giving people half of the reward for a match when they're still going to have to add another entire match to get the 100 score? If you want the 50s to count for something, make the overall requirement a flat 100 loot bags required from either the first 50 or the second 50, not fifty bags from each category...so if someone scores a 98 and a 95, they don't have to do two more matches, just potentially one.

I think it would be better if it was 75 max for low score and 50 max for the higher matchscore with a total of 100 max openable.

D V Devnull, on 22 March 2018 - 01:05 PM, said:

My thanks to him, albeit that I'm going to have to "Faction Hop" in order to get stuff which I want.

You dont have to faction hopp at all its 100 loot bags total in any of 3 different fights

[Conner Ward]

Can we assist a faction without breaking loyalty and still get loot bags? I will not break loyalty even temporarily.

[Marius Evander]

Conner Ward, on 22 March 2018 - 05:20 PM, said:

Can we assist a faction without breaking loyalty and still get loot bags? I will not break loyalty even temporarily.

The loot bags for next 7 days is 100 total, you can get them in any of the 3 fights with 2 modes (12v12 or 4v4) x3 fights

[DFM]

so just to be sure before I buy something and look stupid, the 30% off sale starts 20 hours from this post?(currently 2am UTC, 3/23/18)

[IllCaesar]

Can you put some faction colours on sale too? Maybe faction flagship chassis too? Not even the whole line, maybe just a single variant?

[arcana75]

Conner Ward, on 22 March 2018 - 12:47 PM, said:

If you want to return to being a loyalist, there is still the 10 game probation period.

So if one were to hop from Steiner to Davion to Nova Cat to Steel Viper, one needs to be mindful of this. If one were to be greedy and aim for all 4 faction challenges, one would need to be prepared to commit to 30 extra matches.

Cadoazreal, on 22 March 2018 - 04:32 PM, said:

You dont have to faction hopp at all its 100 loot bags total in any of 3 different fights

The IS vs IS and Clan vs Clan events add their own rewards, specifically 2 faction items and 1m cbills if you nail 20 kills/KMDDs per faction. So that's potentially 8 faction items and 4m cbills, on top of 100 loot bags, if you faction hop all 4.

[IllCaesar]

Really hoping the FP queue is better tomorrow. Waiting thirty minutes for a match before giving up tonight sucked.

[donkey crevice]

Look like a good set up to me I'm looking forward to it.

Matt Newman, on 22 March 2018 - 11:41 AM, said:

Hey Folks, Let me know if this setup works for you! or if you have any questions post them here and I will pop in to answer them.
I'm feeling like this event is at least a 9/10 on the D V Devnull Event Rating System.

[D V Devnull]

Cadoazreal, on 22 March 2018 - 04:32 PM, said:

I know a lot of angry people that it is allowed. Should be seperate events for scouting and FP.

I actually had my head 'ranted off' from one person in particular who would have thrown in the towel if they were separate. You have no idea how long it took to fix my neck afterward. Scary business, that. On the bright side, it keeps the pugs who wouldn't have done so well on Invasion Matches from screwing the rest of us up. And I know how that feels to others, seeing as I've tried to launch into a very few rare matches with intent to stay awake and be part of the battle, only to fall asleep by complete accident during the Searching Phase. When I woke up afterward, I was freaked out, in a disheveled state, and knowing that I had missed the match, left a team hanging that I meant to fight alongside, and wishing I could have told them that I would NEVER mean to do such an awful thing.

Cadoazreal, on 22 March 2018 - 04:32 PM, said:

You dont have to faction hopp at all its 100 loot bags total in any of 3 different fights

Sure, Faction Hopping is NOT needed for the Loot Bags. But if you want the Faction-Specific Battle Rewards, then you have to hop several times during that period. Let us hope that people would NOT have to use the Loyalist Path in order to gain access to those. All it would do is create a friction-loaded problematic pressure point on transitions, which happens to be something PGI said they're putting a stop to.



~Mr. D. V. "Faction Warfare can take a toll on people... That should be kept to a minimum..." Devnull

[Sniper09121986]

Now just let me see... The maximum qualifying score attainable per match is 100, so (with the exception of people who need four mechs to score 100) there is little reason to play anything but scouting. The penalties for faction hopping are gone and the event covers only select few factions, so there is little reason to keep loyalty. And after getting steamrolled in solo queue when dropping with people too timid to shoot back there is little reason to even try chasing that 50 matches warhorn all over again (no, I did not get it). So the way I see it:

This event punishes people who work or study and can only spare 2-3 hours a day.
This event punishes players who score above the required maximum (no reason to play well).
This event punishes players who want to play Faction Play in, you know... normal game mode.
This event punishes loyalists (but hey, what part of the current system does not?).

Now if anyone can tell me how much these fancy pixels cost, we could possibly calculate their worth in money/time/nerves and estimate the worth of participation against the risks and benefits... Interested, anyone?

[Ninjah]

Match score should be 200 for non-scouting FP matches but you would get 5 loot bags in return. Scouting match should be worth 1 loot bag.

[Tier5 Kerensky]

Many players will not receive 100 match score often in FP. And for those 50 games in FP receiving 100 match score is too difficult to complete. At least they will get some lootbags out from the event because the 50 MS limit is pretty low.

[James McCall]

Sniper09121986, on 23 March 2018 - 12:19 AM, said:

This event punishes people who work or study and can only spare 2-3 hours a day.
This event punishes players who score above the required maximum (no reason to play well).
This event punishes players who want to play Faction Play in, you know... normal game mode.
This event punishes loyalists (but hey, what part of the current system does not?).

This event punishes nobody. This event provides free stuff for players if they avail themselves of the opportunities PGI provides. Being punished by an event would be something like 'if you don't complete the event requirements, PGI will delete a number of items from your account commensurate with the number of event requirements you do not complete.'

Not having time to complete an optional event is not punishment, it is a self-imposed disappointment.
Not being able to finish the event in fewer matches than is currently required is not punishment, it is an annoyance.
Not being able to play Faction Play in, you know...normal mode is not punishment, it is providing an event for those who want events for Faction Play and are tired of almost all the recent events being limited to Quick Play.
Not having the desertion period for loyalists is not punishment, it is a vast improvement to all loyalists who wish to change factions, especially during events. Also, you have always and will still receive credit for all event tasks completed during probation matches. The only thing you do not receive during probation matches is loyalty points.

Let me see if I can distill what you want a FP event to be. You want free stuff for not at all changing the way you play the game (you know, normal game mode). You want everything to be accessible for the casual FP player without any significant investment of time (2-3 hours per night). However, you also want people who don't play the way you do to not be able to participate in your FP event because they 'don't have an incentive to play well,' not realizing that the easier the requirement is, the less these undesirables will pollute your matches during this event. If you hate having people achieve around 100 match score over and over again, wouldn't you REALLY hate it if their 100 match scores didn't count and they had to be in even more of your matches trying to achieve a higher requirement?

[TWIAFU]

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Edited by draiocht, 26 March 2018 - 10:41 AM.
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[TWIAFU]

Teer Kerensky, on 23 March 2018 - 01:06 AM, said:

Many players will not receive 100 match score often in FP. And for those 50 games in FP receiving 100 match score is too difficult to complete. At least they will get some lootbags out from the event because the 50 MS limit is pretty low.

Play the new Scouting mini-game.

Deny the enemy, all four, minimum score for a bag. Not only win, but deny them the score.



Soon enough you will have them literally asking you to let them win to gain min score.

Do it in a lance of all Urbie's to add insult to injury.

[Lexandro Wolf]

Sale...hm...and the Mech Bundles...?

[Matt Newman]

elDraco86, on 22 March 2018 - 01:15 PM, said:

question. will the hero and reinforcements add-ons for the mech packs also be 30% off or what? i understand the standard and collector pack will be 30% off just curious about the add-ons.

Yes they should be 30% off as well!

[Mister Smile]

Is it normal that i can't see the 30% off in the shop?