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[Marius Evander]

Oh and btw. Your "'3 Flavors of Faction Play' Event" links to a single event, there is no "3 flavors of faction play event" There is an event that SAYS it is 7 days (but many people could actually only participate for 3 days) a Davion vs Steiner 2 day event and a Clan vs Clan 2 day event.

Edited by Cadoazreal, 27 March 2018 - 01:04 AM.

[fourfinger]

Thanks PGI 2 Kill the Faction Mode there is no "work around " 4 me
IS-FRR Unit member but no leader
And my prim time runs away ..... stop this EVENT DAV AGAINST STEINER > NOW

and Sorry
" into getting a fix up for this as soon as we can."
was before 10h

Edited by fourfinger, 27 March 2018 - 02:08 AM.

[Warschnuffel]

I would be ok with this kind of events when beeing a loyalist would not be punished futher, but instead more new incentives for beeing loyalist would be added. It is ok that not every event ist playable by loyalists who don't want to switch, but don't wash it down any further. You could do this to any other universe, but in Battletech and with a playerbase that sometimes played in this lore for 40 years, people don't tend to switch

if you think this is childish, maybe ... but it is the kind of immersion that keeps many of us in this game for all those years.

[SmokeGuar]

Cancel Clan side of event, play normal FW for last 2 days of event.

Grant loyalty warhorn at the end of event to those who:

- have loyalty on Viper / Nova > 7 days
- have 100 grabs on FW event. ( less if event overlord is benevolent )


And this is not first time this has happened on FW event, please try to learn from mistakes and stop repeating them.

And while we are here, faction balance is horrible, pls fix it, IS is so OP atm its not funny.

Edited by SmokeGuar, 27 March 2018 - 03:28 AM.

[MechTech Dragoon]

Don't get what people are all sour about.
Getting to play IS v IS or clan v clan once in awhile is fun, changes stuff up.
Yes you have to change to one of the appropriate factions during the event to participate in it....you cant bring you're motorcycle to a car rally, get over it.
They recently removed all penalties for switching factions so you can move around. If your unit leader isn't competent enough, or too butthurt to move **** around to get the most out of the content for the units members, you might want to find another unit.

be happy you are getting events and free rewards, your requirement to get those free rewards is to participate in the required content. Now pick a fist or a sword and stop wining.

[Sniper09121986]

Warschnuffel, on 27 March 2018 - 02:03 AM, said:

if you think this is childish, maybe ... but it is the kind of immersion that keeps many of us in this game for all those years.

No joke at all. What sane reasons can be for throwing, like, 1.5-2 times the cost of a decent game for monthly mech packs before they are even in the game? And yet most of us do exactly that. If anything, this is the main thing that has allowed for such lazy development for so long.

[Marius Evander]

XkrX Dragoon, on 27 March 2018 - 04:02 AM, said:

Don't get what people are all sour about.
They recently removed all penalties for switching factions so you can move around.

Please read before repeating whats already been said and explained.
All penalities have no been removed.
The event implied we had 7 days to get our 100 loot bags done with no requirements. That is not the case. I am stuck at 94/100 bcause i believed I had more time to do it, i would have stayed up an extra 45 mins and finished it if I had known i did not. I did not want to cancel a 40% bonus cbills merc contract for warhorn and getting to play ISvIS (which i do want to do) but PGI once again have screwed the pooch, by not allowing any IS faction to join in but not get the rewards / contribute to which side wins.

I am however interested in the chassis camo pattern, even such an ugly one, and because PGI dun goofed i either miss out or get penalised .... sigh.

Edited by Cadoazreal, 27 March 2018 - 04:24 AM.

[MovinTarget]

So I can kinda see what they were going for here, if execution may be a bit off...

They got rid of most of the penalties for hopping factions to make it easier to move to "where the action is". Then, they have events where you do exactly that.

It's a different kind of immersion if you think about it. If they used storylines like the FedCom CW then you are getting to participate in that story. Sure you have to follow their choices but with the FP population as it stands they have already seen that they can't do specific Faction v Faction events without people moving around. There are simply not enough players.

Granted, this sucks for the people that are "die hard <insert faction/clan here>" but I can *almost* see what they were trying to do.

My suggestion if I'm right is that they add a "personal" achievement system beyond Faction/Merc levels so that even if you get ripped away from a faction you've been working for months so that your unit can participate in an event, you can still work toward something without interruption. Like, if reputation were currency, you can choose to use it to boost your own "notoriety" for personal gain regardless of your faction or you can invest it in your standing with the faction with which you are currently allied.

Does that make sense?

Edited by MovinTarget, 27 March 2018 - 04:31 AM.

[clan hope]

why in the hell would you start an event like that with a faction loot bag event going on .. who is planning this crap
???

[clan hope]

Cadoazreal, on 27 March 2018 - 04:23 AM, said:

Please read before repeating whats already been said and explained.
All penalities have no been removed.
The event implied we had 7 days to get our 100 loot bags done with no requirements. That is not the case. I am stuck at 94/100 bcause i believed I had more time to do it, i would have stayed up an extra 45 mins and finished it if I had known i did not. I did not want to cancel a 40% bonus cbills merc contract for warhorn and getting to play ISvIS (which i do want to do) but PGI once again have screwed the pooch, by not allowing any IS faction to join in but not get the rewards / contribute to which side wins.

I am however interested in the chassis camo pattern, even such an ugly one, and because PGI dun goofed i either miss out or get penalised .... sigh.

its not that it's the fact you have to be I.S. to get your loot bags now ... im clan all the way the only I.S. mech i have were even or loyalty mechs so given to me or i wouldnt have them

[Aylward]

[ZortPointNarf]

GaelicWolf, on 26 March 2018 - 06:23 PM, said:

WTF?
PGI,
I don't want to break loyalty
Why do Loyalists continually get the shaft?

If you are so loyal, why do you want the loot then, wouldn't you spit on the items from your enemies?

Aside from that, the inability to resume business as usual for IS vs Clam is not ok, had I not finished mine yesterday I would be screwed on this too. I wonder if there is a limitation to having multiple run at once, I seem to recall about 7 events active at one point in FW a while back.

Edited by ZortPointNarf, 27 March 2018 - 05:08 AM.

[xR1pp3Rx]

hey jackwagon, you read any of the thread?? us loyalists aren't mad about not getting the stiener davion loot.. we got cut off from the faction play even midstream, and cant finish it now. jeebuschrist man, pay attention!

[Vorpal Puppy]

I am a loyalist and have no intention of leaving. Had I known I was only going to have 3 days (not 7) to do the loot bag event, I would have made time - currently at 64/100. Please don't assume we somehow know you are going to take down regular FP for the Davion vs Steiner event.
BTW, PGI, note the badge beside my name. I bought the entire Black Lanner mech pack even though I knew it would not be great because it is an iconic Jade Falcon mech. Loyalists do things like that, but not forever when you don't seem to even consider them.

Edited by Vorpal Puppy, 27 March 2018 - 09:31 AM.

[Aidan Crenshaw]

Another possible workaround: Use the group-play feature. All it needs is your groupleader has to be Steiner/Davion loyalist or under merc-contract. He/She will then be able to enter the bucket via the launch button.

(Beware! As of now, I was not yet able to test this workaround)

[Warschnuffel]

Aidan Crenshaw, on 27 March 2018 - 05:43 AM, said:

Another possible workaround: Use the group-play feature. All it needs is your groupleader has to be Steiner/Davion loyalist or under merc-contract. He/She will then be able to enter the bucket via the launch button.

(Beware! As of now, I was not yet able to test this workaround)

That could be working. Will test it tonight – thx for the idea!

[MrKvola]

Aidan Crenshaw, on 27 March 2018 - 05:43 AM, said:

Another possible workaround: Use the group-play feature. All it needs is your groupleader has to be Steiner/Davion loyalist or under merc-contract. He/She will then be able to enter the bucket via the launch button.

(Beware! As of now, I was not yet able to test this workaround)

I'm not sure if this works.

Even if it does, the group can only consist of IS affiliated players for the current challenge.

[Daemon04]

Aidan Crenshaw, on 27 March 2018 - 05:43 AM, said:

Another possible workaround: Use the group-play feature. All it needs is your groupleader has to be Steiner/Davion loyalist or under merc-contract. He/She will then be able to enter the bucket via the launch button.

(Beware! As of now, I was not yet able to test this workaround)

MrKvola, on 27 March 2018 - 06:23 AM, said:

I'm not sure if this works.

Even if it does, the group can only consist of IS affiliated players for the current challenge.

Warschnuffel, on 27 March 2018 - 05:45 AM, said:

That could be working. Will test it tonight – thx for the idea!

yea, tested it. not working.

Edited by Daemon04, 27 March 2018 - 06:31 AM.

[Ssamout]

Sniper09121986, on 27 March 2018 - 12:54 AM, said:

Has been the case since ever. Remember the Rasalhague Galactic Empire in FP 2.0, I guess? Or the Smoke Jaguar and Jade Falcon Galactic Empires that followed? "We go to FP to get good matches in strong teams", yadda-yadda. Then why is everybody on the same faction? Besides, we have comp queue now, where proper comp teams hang, and they are hardly interested in FP... oh wait, that actually explains things.

Plenty of good matches were had during those times, 'cause not every unit was stacked to one side. You knew you gonna have a proper match when queuing against jade turkeys or them (old)timers of rasalhague.

A lot of the problems where caused during those times bcause silly potatoes only knew how to queue on defence, and most of the time attackers where groups. You see, them groups knew that to get a match going, you first need attackers (you could see silly spuds queuing on defence when there were no attackers, and complain about 1 hour wait times / no shows).

Also about that comp queue; it does not exist. That comp button is for mwowc qualifiers, and only for that. It's not a queue that you can play as such.

[-Quiet-]

and if I don't want to play simon says because PGI say so and force us change to IS.. what then clans should do ?
is this a game ? or another code test by pgi ? because the basic rule in gaming is -usually let you choose to play with what you like and not to be forced to do things by some one with idea that wants to test it on he's customers and call it Special event.


so .. yea I have alt account sure I use it now because I love the game... but the company that's runs it .. I really don't know ..
sry not trolling ,just - really this is not the right way to make good money ....(just basic tip)

Edited by Bios303, 27 March 2018 - 06:55 AM.