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[Racerxintegra2k]

Is it time yet ?

[Ghogiel]

Racerxintegra2k, on 02 April 2018 - 03:01 PM, said:

Is it time yet ?

Is it out for cbills?

[Mystere]

[Prototelis]

Counterpoint; buff teamwork rewards instead.

[Racerxintegra2k]

Prototelis, on 02 April 2018 - 03:09 PM, said:

Counterpoint; buff teamwork rewards instead.

Counter Counter point..... Balance

[dario03]

Racerxintegra2k, on 02 April 2018 - 03:16 PM, said:

Counter Counter point..... Balance

Your counter counter point would mean that its not time to nerf the Piranha, its time to buff some other lights.

[Darian DelFord]

Prototelis, on 02 April 2018 - 03:09 PM, said:

Counterpoint; buff teamwork rewards instead.

Racerxintegra2k, on 02 April 2018 - 03:16 PM, said:

Counter Counter point..... Balance

What he means is situational awareness.. Something some assault and heavy players lack and then come to the forums complaining because they were out of position and or alone in a LRM build with no back up weapons

Case in point is the below video....... OP or just flat out capitalizing on the MULTIPLE MISTAKES of the enemy

dario03, on 02 April 2018 - 03:31 PM, said:

Your counter counter point would mean that its not time to nerf the Piranha, its time to buff some other lights.

This I could not agree more to.

[Brain Cancer]

The 1k damage includes that nearly perfect arty strike he does in the middle of the fight, BTW.

Me, I just want IS MGs to match up tonnagewise in potency with Clan ones. LMGs that weigh twice as much should be delivering near twice the firepower, all other things considered.

[Helsbane]

I just want IS side Machine Gun Arrays. That way we can mount a dozen MGs for the lulz too.

[Nightbird]

The nerf will come, and light population will drop from 8% to 7%

[Brain Cancer]

Helsbane, on 02 April 2018 - 04:13 PM, said:

I just want IS side Machine Gun Arrays. That way we can mount a dozen MGs for the lulz too.

Still doesn't change the tonnage disparity, which is the real problem.

If I mount two tons of MGs on something, the performance between that in Clan and IS terms should be very close. And yet, the DPS/ton is far better for Clanners- and they get more hardpoints on their robots to do so.

If the PIR-1 is OK, then there should be IS lights capable of mounting the same tonnage in MGs (and there aren't, though the Arrow can) and getting similar performance (they do not). At the least, there should be IS lights able to do similar performance to 8 MG Clan lights like the Mist Lynx.

Edited by Brain Cancer, 02 April 2018 - 04:42 PM.

[Foxfire]

Darian DelFord, on 02 April 2018 - 03:48 PM, said:

What he means is situational awareness.. Something some assault and heavy players lack and then come to the forums complaining because they were out of position and or alone in a LRM build with no back up weapons

Case in point is the below video....... OP or just flat out capitalizing on the MULTIPLE MISTAKES of the enemy









This I could not agree more to.

To be fair, I've had a match where I've done 1.2k damage on a Huginn. Damage on crit seekers isn't a reliable indicator of performance because of how damage is calculated for component destruction and arm components being included in damage done for ST destruction.

[PocketYoda]

Lets hope its soon we will have Fleas soon which clanners will be screaming about..

Edited by Samial, 03 April 2018 - 06:17 AM.

[Darian DelFord]

Foxfire, on 02 April 2018 - 04:49 PM, said:

To be fair, I've had a match where I've done 1.2k damage on a Huginn. Damage on crit seekers isn't a reliable indicator of performance because of how damage is calculated for component destruction and arm components being included in damage done for ST destruction.

And this is the main point. Folks do not know how the numbers get generated. I have watched that video several times now and still have no clue how I got that much. Seriously there needs to be an indicator at the end of match that breaks down damage for you. I had arty and Ammo are the only things i can come up with. But all Assaults and heavies see is a 20 ton mech kicking their arse and come to the forums to complain about it. When the majority of the time its their own dang fault.

Yes the Piranha is a strong light.... probably the strongest. Yet the other lights have been nerfed into the ground all because people have no situational awareness.

Edited by Darian DelFord, 03 April 2018 - 05:56 PM.

[PocketYoda]

Darian DelFord, on 02 April 2018 - 04:57 PM, said:

And this is the main point. Folks do not know how the numbers get generated. I have watched that video several times now and still have no clue how I got that much. But all Assaults and heavies see is a 20 ton mech kicking their arse and come to the forums to complain about it. When the majority of the time its their own dang fault.

Yes the Piranha is a strong light.... probably the strongest. Yet the other lights have been nerfed into the ground all because people have no situational awareness.

Its not the Piranha thats at fault its the Clan Machine guns.. and when used as a wolf pack with ACH and MLX-Gs its just insane.. The mechs are fine the MGs they boat are not..

[Devilsfury]

Everyone knows that its beyond broken but they wont nerf it until its out for C-bills, then and only then will they even think about nerfing. Only fan bois and whales say its not and its typically the same 10 guys that come on here and post otherwise.

[PocketYoda]

Devilsfury, on 02 April 2018 - 05:23 PM, said:

Everyone knows that its beyond broken but they wont nerf it until its out for C-bills, then and only then will they even think about nerfing. Only fan bois and whales say its not and its typically the same 10 guys that come on here and post otherwise.

Again its not the mech its the guns.. if it was the mechs you'd see the laser only Piranhas everywhere and you never do..

[thievingmagpi]

nerf aiming.

nerf communication.

nerf teamwork.

Edited by thievingmagpi, 02 April 2018 - 05:38 PM.

[Grus]

Racerxintegra2k, on 02 April 2018 - 03:01 PM, said:

Is it time yet ?

[Darian DelFord]

Samial, on 02 April 2018 - 05:14 PM, said:

Its not the Piranha thats at fault its the Clan Machine guns.. and when used as a wolf pack with ACH and MLX-Gs its just insane.. The mechs are fine the MGs they boat are not..

Alll lights are OP in a wolf pack if they are on one mech. Not so much when there are an equal amount of mechs around.

Devilsfury, on 02 April 2018 - 05:23 PM, said:

Everyone knows that its beyond broken but they wont nerf it until its out for C-bills, then and only then will they even think about nerfing. Only fan bois and whales say its not and its typically the same 10 guys that come on here and post otherwise.

Show me a vid where a piranha does the majority of damage to all the mechs. Show me a video where a piranha is face tanking an assault pilot who knows how to aim and more importantly does not have his arm lock on. Literally every vid I have seen the piranha's and most lights are capitalizing on the mistakes the other mechs make. Lets face it to do well in a light you have to be a step above most others. Lights are by and far the most difficult mechs to get anything out of.