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[Grus]

Nightbird, on 04 April 2018 - 12:08 PM, said:

Max armor is by tonnage, all 60 ton mechs get 402 max, 70 tonners get 434

T[color=#000000]he [/color]Hellfire[color=#000000] mounts nine tons of [/color]Ferro-Fibrous[color="#000000"] armor. Per cannon, for comparison the timberwolf is stated to have 12 tons. and the hellbringer has 8 tons[/color]

[Bombast]

Internal Obedience XIII-omega, on 04 April 2018 - 01:09 PM, said:

I love Plog's and David's art work but why PGI? Why? What's with the affinity of the inverted footing? It's like one giant HOOF.

Its the cheapest animation possible.

[Exilyth]

Oh look - another thing we know to be both OP and DOA even though it's not released yet.

60t, mostly missile STs, other weapons in arms... we'll have to see how it compares to the Mad Dog (Vulture).

[Juodas Varnas]

Bombast, on 04 April 2018 - 01:26 PM, said:

Its the cheapest animation possible.

Better that than have them go the Uziel's route and just don't animate one of the joints completely

Or the nightstar where the legs were stretched to fit the King Crab's walk cycle

[LT. HARDCASE]

I have been Superman caping for this mech for so long, have even tweeted Russ about it.

[Seranov]

Woo, this should be a good one. The arms are a little knuckle-drag-y, but the torso mounts should be cash. I imagine it won't get any quirks, though, so it probably won't be as good as a missile boat as the MDD. It'll have some nice mixed builds, though. Definitely gonna give the one with a Ballistic torso a lot of playtime.

[TheArisen]

I think some people are missing that this is a battlemech and that most of it's variants have a engine cap of 360. So slow is not accurate.

[The6thMessenger]

Another Clan Battlemech -- really?

I get that it's awesome and all, but it's going to be another Clan ringer.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 04 April 2018 - 02:40 PM.

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The6thMessenger, on 04 April 2018 - 02:36 PM, said:

Another Clan Omnimech -- really?

Battlemech.

[The6thMessenger]

Bombast, on 04 April 2018 - 02:38 PM, said:

Battlemech.

Right, sorry, that is what i meant.

[Jackal Noble]

Seranov, on 04 April 2018 - 02:27 PM, said:

Woo, this should be a good one. The arms are a little knuckle-drag-y, but the torso mounts should be cash. I imagine it won't get any quirks, though, so it probably won't be as good as a missile boat as the MDD. It'll have some nice mixed builds, though. Definitely gonna give the one with a Ballistic torso a lot of playtime.

It should get some quirkage. Name of the game.

Esp with those super isolated missile torsos

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Looks sorta like it will be a battlemech version of the Mad Dog. Its stuck with the laser+missile combo, low gorilla arm mounts, and a high mounted cockpit. So pretty much no meta laser+ballistic combos here, no meta hill poking with lasers or ERPPCs, and no meta missile+ballistic brawlers.

Basically Mad Dog that you can put endo and ferro on and downgrade the engine for a bit more tonnage and then throw MASC on if you felt like it. Doubting it would have Mad Dog tier quirks though.

I'm going to just rule it out as being meta, but say that it is decent and could likely run a nice dual ATM12 build with 6 lasers backing it up on the HLF-1 and get some hill peeking in with the high cockpit to get ATM locks. If missiles ever get a buff so that things other than the ATM in its sweet spot can compete with lasers then it would be a powerhouse.

EDIT: looking at the artwork a bit more closely, the hitboxes seem to be utter trash. Its very wide with low height, a recipe for easy to target torso sections. However, if they set the hitboxes up similar to how the Dragon is currently then it could be decent, though the Dragon also has massive durability quirks to further its durability.

Edited by Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood, 04 April 2018 - 02:56 PM.

[Khobai]

its a battlemech that makes it automatically better than the vulture

unless it gets some major flaw in its scaling or geometry

[Angel of Annihilation]

The6thMessenger, on 04 April 2018 - 02:36 PM, said:

Another Clan Battlemech -- really?

I get that it's awesome and all, but it's going to be another Clan ringer.

You do realize there are a whole lot of Bad clan mechs too right? They might not be as bad as some of the worst IS mechs but there are a ton that below average to average at best.

As for this one, I have concerns about the hitpoints. Mech looks sexy as hell and all but those STs make the Sun Spiders torso like tiny by comparison. That being the case, I doubt this mechs goes beyond being run of the mill average unless PGI does crazy armor/structure quirking and we all know PGI tends to not do that with Clan Battlemechs.

[Y E O N N E]

Rifleman does fine without any sort of durability buffs; the hitpoints on the Hellfire alone are not what concern me. The geometry is what concerns me.

[Metus regem]

Yeonne Greene, on 04 April 2018 - 04:43 PM, said:

Rifleman does fine without any sort of durability buffs; the hitpoints on the Hellfire alone are not what concern me. The geometry is what concerns me.

Like I said on page one... looks solid, if easy to dismember.

[The6thMessenger]

Viktor Drake, on 04 April 2018 - 03:07 PM, said:

You do realize there are a whole lot of Bad clan mechs too right? They might not be as bad as some of the worst IS mechs but there are a ton that below average to average at best.

I'd rather have those bad clan mechs fixed, just as bad IS mechs honestly.

[El Bandito]

Clan battlemech will never be garbage. Quirks will tell just how high it will place in tiers.

Edited by El Bandito, 04 April 2018 - 06:26 PM.

[Y E O N N E]

El Bandito, on 04 April 2018 - 06:24 PM, said:

Clan battlemech will never be garbage. Quirks will tell just how high it will place in tiers.

Skoll says hi.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

El Bandito, on 04 April 2018 - 06:24 PM, said:

Clan battlemech will never be garbage. Quirks will tell just how high it will place in tiers.

With that type of ideology I can see why you find clan mechs OP. Half of the IIC pack is pretty much unoptimized trash mechs with one or two variants of each being either meta or just decent.