Press F For Clans
#41
Posted 11 May 2018 - 09:11 PM
Fear not the nerfinating, for it comes to us all. Dual heavy gauss is next, standard engine requirement be dammed. All our mighty champions shall fall by the wayside, for did not the stalker rule once? Were the pulse-thunderbolts not meta? I, for one, welcome our new LBX boat overlords!
#42
Posted 11 May 2018 - 09:58 PM
Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood, on 11 May 2018 - 03:47 PM, said:
Note that in the new patch Clans can fire 4 ERML/MPL before ghost heat, 3 HML, or just one single HLL.
This means total laser alpha for Clan is 52 with 4 ERML and 2LPL. This means that Clans now have a LOWER damage alpha than IS while still having longer durations, less efficient damage:heat ratios. This takes quite a few Clan mechs right out of the loop, and looks like it will solidify the current rise of Lasers+Gauss. Speaking of which, the Mad Cat MK2 flagship of lasers+gauss took a nerf this patch.
Just in time for the Blood Asp that can run 4 ERML+2LPL+2Gauss+ECM and be new Clan metamech.
Read patchnotes for context.
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#43
Posted 11 May 2018 - 10:22 PM
The absolute worst possible laser nerf imaginable... Made IS laser vomit better than Clan in almost every way now. (faster refire, lower heat, lower burn time, lower cooldown)
#45
Posted 11 May 2018 - 11:32 PM
Nowadays, I QP but I don't bring out my Hellbringers and Cauldron Borns now, but other clan mechs using a CLPL and CMPL combination, particularly Novacat or Sun Spider.
#47
Posted 12 May 2018 - 04:07 AM
Couldn’t keep a straight face with that last one.
#48
Posted 12 May 2018 - 04:35 AM
stop crying and learn to do something else.
#49
Posted 12 May 2018 - 04:44 AM
The real question is "What are clan mechs good for" now. Laservom was a crutch that made up for a laundry list of deficiencies in the other weapon systems.
#50
Posted 12 May 2018 - 04:50 AM
Vonbach, on 12 May 2018 - 04:35 AM, said:
stop crying and learn to do something else.
So let’s do something else. But we can’t dakka too much because that’ll cause GH. And we can’t missile too much because that’ll cause GH. And we can’t Gauss/PPC because GH. And mixed builds don’t work because you have to tiptoe around tripping GH. Maybe I’ll try TAG boating next then.
It just baffles me that we still get short-sighted “stop whining” posts. This is a heavy-handed untested nerf that’s gonna screw up a bunch of QP and FP builds when clan laser vomit was all that clan mechs could reliably fall back on. But no, it’s just whining. Let’s check our clan privilege, guys.
#51
Posted 12 May 2018 - 04:53 AM
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Clan Heavy Large Laser
- Minimum Heat Penalty reduced to 2 (from 3)"
I was just getting my dual heavy large laser Executioner with ATM in gear...
Nerfing one of the worst assaults already
(EXE-E has bonus to heavy lasers)
Firing only those two already set me to like 50% heat.
It basically means you can only fire one without penalty.
Take into mind, I don't play laser vomit. I don't even like lasers.
But this isn't the balance I wanted.
And it's not about just Clans either. Tha Anhilator is also getting uber-nerfed. But it was already a sitting duck.
Edited by NimoStar, 12 May 2018 - 04:56 AM.
#52
Posted 12 May 2018 - 04:54 AM
Azure Kit, on 12 May 2018 - 04:50 AM, said:
So let’s do something else. But we can’t dakka too much because that’ll cause GH. And we can’t missile too much because that’ll cause GH. And we can’t Gauss/PPC because GH. And mixed builds don’t work because you have to tiptoe around tripping GH. Maybe I’ll try TAG boating next then.
It just baffles me that we still get short-sighted “stop whining” posts. This is a heavy-handed untested nerf that’s gonna screw up a bunch of QP and FP builds when clan laser vomit was all that clan mechs could reliably fall back on. But no, it’s just whining. Let’s check our clan privilege, guys.
There are these things called weapon groups learn what they are.
Press "F" for clans more like press "W" for whine.
#53
Posted 12 May 2018 - 04:56 AM
Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood, on 11 May 2018 - 03:47 PM, said:
You list alot of disadvantages but what about the lower weight and slot cost of weapons, higher range, 2 slot DHS and more efficient Ferro/Endo + safer XL?
Edited by Bluttrunken, 12 May 2018 - 04:58 AM.
#55
Posted 12 May 2018 - 04:57 AM
Azure Kit, on 12 May 2018 - 04:50 AM, said:
How do you trigger gh with a mixed build?
#56
Posted 12 May 2018 - 05:04 AM
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*sigh*
#57
Posted 12 May 2018 - 05:10 AM
Vonbach, on 12 May 2018 - 04:54 AM, said:
There are these things called weapon groups learn what they are.
Press "F" for clans more like press "W" for whine.
It’s funny because if you look at any of my clan mechs they’re all styled after lore builds or builds from other MW games. The only “laser vom” mechs I have are the SNV-1, nova, and a couple NovaCats (Since that’s what the pods support.) The point is this patch doesn’t hurt the mechs it’s intended to. The HBR’s will just swap the HLLs to ERLLs or LPLs and keep firing their one big weapon group. The patch instead hurts the mechs that use heavy lasers like clan lights and mediums. Guess those heavy laser Cougars and Kitfoxes and ShadowCats were just ruining everything. Not to mention laser only clan Battlemechs that can’t just swap pods around like the SNV-1, HBK-IICA and the KDK-1
#58
Posted 12 May 2018 - 05:23 AM
Kroete, on 12 May 2018 - 04:57 AM, said:
Never heard of linked ghost heat have you... It's been around for over a year.
Bluttrunken, on 12 May 2018 - 04:56 AM, said:
You list alot of disadvantages but what about the lower weight and slot cost of weapons, higher range, 2 slot DHS and more efficient Ferro/Endo + safer XL?
All of which were balanced for combat by the significantly increased armor of the IS mechs, significantly higher heat generation by Clan weapons, and reduced variety of both weapons selection and mech selection.
#59
Posted 12 May 2018 - 05:54 AM
BTGbullseye, on 12 May 2018 - 05:23 AM, said:
You mean gauss+ppc, or is there any other liked ghost heat?
And taking 3 different lasers or 2 types of missiles or ballistics is not a mixed build,
its just a way to bypass ghostheat.
#60
Posted 12 May 2018 - 06:07 AM
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