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[UnofficialOperator]

Did a lot of T1 suddenly die of old age waiting for a game to pop?

Edited by UnofficialOperator, 17 June 2018 - 05:57 PM.

[Cloves]

Are you saying it’s bad out there? If so, then blame the event and folks giving a tie to thier dads.

[Tarl Cabot]

Players running mechs they have not played in awhile while also not being optimal mechs/setups.

[El Bandito]

I graduated QP a long time ago. Now I mostly play FP, and Solaris.

[Novakaine]

Working as intended?

[Dragonporn]

Dude, event is going on. It's a great opportunity for folks to test drive mechs they never piloted before. Example: I buy stock IS mech with STD and SHS, I don't use sliders to balance weight/slots ratio because it costs fortune and I need this mech for 1-3 matches tops. I don't change anything, only shove weapons nilly-willy which I already own in a stockpile without much of a thought and tweak armor. After disastrous round, I try new bunch of weapons and so on. Plus pile up the fact that every single mech is unskilled and here you go. I bet majority of players do so, otherwise building every mech will burn millions of c-BIlls (already down from 80kk to 5kk). What's so surprising about it? You can be a god of MWO, but in unskilled bucket built in worst way possible, you won't perform very well, unless you're lucky, that is. Just have fun, experiment and enjoy the event while you can. It will end soon, and majority will be back in their boring overperformers.

[Kanil]

Dragonporn, on 17 June 2018 - 07:44 PM, said:

Dude, event is going on...

Yeah. My average match score has dropped 100 due to the event. Which is to be expected when I'm driving a skillless SHS Catapult for the first time. Time spent wondering why my weapons have a firing delay, then pressing keys at random to find the weapon door toggle is time not spent paying attention to the game and trying to play well.

I've polluted tier 1 with more than a few tier 5 performances this month.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Game has been bleeding its higher skill population for years now and without competition and without as many groups training new players the average has fallen.

[Kaeb Odellas]

Man, who cares? Take the opportunity to club seals or revel in some silly fun builds for a while.

[Mookan]

Thought I'd finally reply to one of these 'quality of T1' posts as they seem to always pop up.

First up what is peoples' definition of a T1 player? Someone who sits back and snipes getting large dmg and kills? Someone who stays with the pack and focus fires? Someone who has a ridiculously high alpha strike that can wipe out mechs in 1-2 pulls of the trigger? Or a light mech that relies on lag shields and wonky hitboxes to kill multiple assaults and heavies?

Is this mix of 'skillful' play what people want? IMO that would result in very slow paced and boring matches.

Let's be honest this game is not about skill at all (ok aiming for weak spots helps), it is a simple output more damage than the opposition = win. All it takes is 1-2 players probably with dual heavy gauss or other high alpha strikes (or many vs one) taking down a few mechs to turn the tide and result in a stomp. This game has no real defensive play as armour is ablative, once it's gone to a targeted or lucky shot your combat efficiency is reduced for the duration of the match. Also 500 odd armour is useless if it only takes 50 damage to kill a mech.

No matter how crafty or strategic you are unless you can take out a mech in one go it doesn't matter. The 'skill' (via tier) of the player is usually less important than what mech they field.

Just my 2c.

[razenWing]

Check some of the tier 5 streamers on twitch. Trust me, it could be worse. So, stop complaining about quality of Tier 1. Also, from another angle, most games are lopsided because T1 players are more prone to jump on mistakes. There are no coming back from a bad peek. Lights that go lone wolf in the beginning generally don't come back. As soon as mistakes are made, game is pretty much over. It's not like in T5 where an ACH can go hero mode and run around between legs for 10 minute straight without losing even an arm.

Think about that.

Edited by razenWing, 18 June 2018 - 03:28 AM.

[Lt Blackthorn]

> thinking Tier has anything to do with skill

Hilarious. PSR is an xp bar, and its relationship to skill is incidental at best. Tier 1 is full of window lickers who got there through sheer pig-headed attrition. And the best part: that founder in an LRM Atlas who only does 100 damage every game is considered to be the same quality of player as Proton, Bowser, and any number of scary af hard-carry players out there.

Tier can only tell you something if the person is T3 or lower, in which case it means that they are a newer player, play very infrequently, or are so bad they can't even rise in PSR. That or they are a relatively new smurf account.

As for the current match quality? There are a number of things at play: the event is on, it is a weekend, LRMs have been buffed recently leading to more people playing them, and, most importantly, decent players are playing QP less and less because it's been a progressively worsening s*** show for the past six months.

[Elizander]

Tarl Cabot, on 17 June 2018 - 06:52 PM, said:

Players running mechs they have not played in awhile while also not being optimal mechs/setups.

Most of the store-bought rent-a-mechs I have just get some weapons an XL and a load of SHS.

[CygnusX7]

With all the tryhards gone the game is actually fun for losers like me.
Can look at my mechs feet with the best of them.

[Elizander]

razenWing, on 18 June 2018 - 03:27 AM, said:

Check some of the tier 5 streamers on twitch. Trust me, it could be worse. So, stop complaining about quality of Tier 1. Also, from another angle, most games are lopsided because T1 players are more prone to jump on mistakes. There are no coming back from a bad peek. Lights that go lone wolf in the beginning generally don't come back. As soon as mistakes are made, game is pretty much over. It's not like in T5 where an ACH can go hero mode and run around between legs for 10 minute straight without losing even an arm.

Think about that.

I know I'm fighting mostly low tier opponents when I can facetank a Battlemaster with full armor using an unskilled Firestarter and then staring it down to death with 6 SPL and 2 HMG.

[RickySpanish]

I dunno about you, but I don't really feel like over thinking 500 damage for half a million c-bills. If you got a chassis that qualifies, strap on a couple of guns from the spare parts bin and away you go.

[UnofficialOperator]

Just had a moron in an undamaged hbk running around at 70, avoiding damage, doing zero damage and trying to do a cap marathon.

How someone can go 2000 games without learning to play is beyond me

[Alan Hicks]

At this time, tier is not related to skill, everyone knows that. The level of stupidity, ineptitude and cowardice in this event reached an unprecedented peak. Of course they were also good matches, but not that many.

For example, unlike past events, this time I mainly got center noob domination mode picked to death, with the nascar or the merry-go-round habit. I never select or do that, but plenty teams fall commonly into that behavior.

Its like some prefer doing the same strat over and over again! On any map!

Tier 1 real matches, only available sometimes during the day, when good thoughtful players access the game. Oh, and by a miracle of heavens the flawed matchmaker brings a balanced game.

[Jzaltheral]

UnofficialOperator, on 18 June 2018 - 06:29 AM, said:

Just had a moron in an undamaged hbk running around at 70, avoiding damage, doing zero damage and trying to do a cap marathon.

How someone can go 2000 games without learning to play is beyond me

Stupidity isn't painful in MWO. That's the only explanation I can think if.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Jzaltheral, on 18 June 2018 - 07:39 AM, said:

Stupidity isn't painful in MWO. That's the only explanation I can think if.

Mostly just painful for the others to watch.