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[eminus]

that is badly needed

[Anastasius Foht]

eminus, on 10 July 2018 - 03:04 AM, said:

that is badly needed

You overreacting

[The6thMessenger]

When you're competent, LRMs are actually the least of your worries. It's them pesky lights on your rear that you gotta worry about.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 10 July 2018 - 03:10 AM.

[eminus]

I want AMS that can also shoot face hugging lights! LOL

AMS - Anti Midget System

Edited by eminus, 10 July 2018 - 03:12 AM.

[Muujig612]

The6thMessenger, on 10 July 2018 - 03:10 AM, said:

When you're competent, LRMs are actually the least of your worries. It's them pesky lights on your rear that you gotta worry about.

Assault mechs are weakest against LRMs and ATMs because they are so slow to react. I think 3 AMS assault mech would be fine addition.

[Abaddun]

AMS is designed so that no one mech can create a perfect shield. Several mechs however....

[Muujig612]

Abaddun, on 10 July 2018 - 03:30 AM, said:

AMS is designed so that no one mech can create a perfect shield. Several mechs however....

True. AMS effectiveness becomes exponentially better the more people bring them.

[Nema Nabojiv]

Yeah, we need clan 4xAMS battlemech. Since lazors gonna be useless anyways, might as well switch to doing support stuff. Also 1 weapon slot for tag and narc.

[Abaddun]

Nema Nabojiv, on 10 July 2018 - 04:24 AM, said:

Yeah, we need clan 4xAMS battlemech. Since lazors gonna be useless anyways, might as well switch to doing support stuff. Also 1 weapon slot for tag and narc.

One of the piranhas already has a 4 AMS omnipod.

[eminus]

Abaddun, on 10 July 2018 - 04:27 AM, said:

One of the piranhas already has a 4 AMS omnipod.

if only I could put one Piranha to either of my side torso as one omnipod!

[The6thMessenger]

Muujig612, on 10 July 2018 - 03:28 AM, said:

Assault mechs are weakest against LRMs and ATMs because they are so slow to react. I think 3 AMS assault mech would be fine addition.

You mean LRMs and ATMs works best against Assaults Mechs, there's a difference. With proper positioning, as expected from a proper pilot, that's not that much of an issue (unless in maps like polar or alpine).

Edited by The6thMessenger, 10 July 2018 - 05:55 AM.

[VonBruinwald]

The6thMessenger, on 10 July 2018 - 05:53 AM, said:

You mean LRMs and ATMs works best against Assaults Mechs, there's a difference. With proper positioning, as expected from a proper pilot, that's not that much of an issue (unless in maps like polar or alpine).

But with proper positioning, as expected from a proper LRM pilot, you can negate the proper positioning of a properly piloted Assault Mech, which results in the original issue (even on maps like polar and alpine).

[MechaBattler]

Not badly needed if you stay close to cover. But if anyone does need it most. It's the assaults since they can't just pop back into cover quickly.

[Jon Gotham]

VonBruinwald, on 10 July 2018 - 06:28 AM, said:

But with proper positioning, as expected from a proper LRM pilot, you can negate the proper positioning of a properly piloted Assault Mech, which results in the original issue (even on maps like polar and alpine).

"Proper" positioning as espoused by the "pros" essentially means being tied down to specific parts of the map or get rekt when you move. If you are in the "proper2 positions then lrms are having their most lethal effect, movement denial.

[Gas Guzzler]

Kingfisher or Turkina are great candidates for 4 AMS

[Bombast]

[The6thMessenger]

VonBruinwald, on 10 July 2018 - 06:28 AM, said:

But with proper positioning, as expected from a proper LRM pilot, you can negate the proper positioning of a properly piloted Assault Mech, which results in the original issue (even on maps like polar and alpine).

True, but why would that be an issue? At that point even other weight classes has that problem of vulnerability, even if not the same intensity. Plus there's skill involved, which justify such effectiveness.

[Novakaine]

Your 4 ams will avail you not!

[TWIAFU]

Jon Gotham, on 10 July 2018 - 10:51 AM, said:

"Proper" positioning as espoused by the "pros" essentially means being tied down to specific parts of the map or get rekt when you move. If you are in the "proper2 positions then lrms are having their most lethal effect, movement denial.

False.

We do very, very well on those open maps with the use of speed.

If you are being tied down you are letting the enemy rule the battle. Don't run to the middle of the damn map. There is more to every battle zone then a b-line to the center. Try it sometime if you can think your way out of the box your stuck in.

[roboPrancer]

Bombast, on 10 July 2018 - 12:30 PM, said:

Apparently I'm not missing much by not being able to drop in CW with you guys right now.

And for anyone wondering, those were good units on the same ****** CW maps with no hard cover using narc/lrmspam as a legit tactic. No amount of ams is gonna stop 12 clan lrm boats with their recently buffed velocity and ammo. Pretty sure their players were all half asleep just trying to prove a point about how ****** the meta has become. Bahlunce is grate guys.