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[BTGbullseye]

Nightbird, on 17 July 2018 - 04:57 AM, said:

Clan mechs run cooler than IS mechs. Hotter weapons are more than offset by a lot more HS.

Clan mechs most certainly do not run any cooler than IS mechs... And many actually tend to run much hotter, just with more heatsinks to compensate.

[Y E O N N E]

BTGbullseye, on 17 July 2018 - 10:52 AM, said:

Clan mechs most certainly do not run any cooler than IS mechs... And many actually tend to run much hotter, just with more heatsinks to compensate.

Not when you look at sustained DPS, which is how much damage you can continue to pump out while heat-capped. Sole exception is HGauss.

[BTGbullseye]

I have yet to see a Battlemaster laser vomit that couldn't be outfitted to have better DPS than any lasvomit Clan... Just because people don't do it, doesn't mean they can't.

[Nightbird]

BTGbullseye, on 17 July 2018 - 11:05 AM, said:

I have yet to see a Battlemaster laser vomit that couldn't be outfitted to have better DPS than any lasvomit Clan... Just because people don't do it, doesn't mean they can't.

Ok.. I'll start with a MAD IIC with 30DHS and 6 ERLL. Give the BLR build if you please.

[Throe]

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Edited by Throe, 09 November 2018 - 12:10 PM.

[Y E O N N E]

BTGbullseye, on 17 July 2018 - 11:05 AM, said:

I have yet to see a Battlemaster laser vomit that couldn't be outfitted to have better DPS than any lasvomit Clan... Just because people don't do it, doesn't mean they can't.

Show me a Battlemaster build you have in mind, please. It's hard to demonstrate when talking nebulously.

[Orville Righteous]

Yeonne Greene, on 17 July 2018 - 02:35 PM, said:

Show me a Battlemaster build you have in mind, please. It's hard to demonstrate when talking nebulously.

Try not to use an IS XL too please. BLRs are pretty easy to kill with XLs.

[lazorbeamz]

BTGbullseye, on 17 July 2018 - 11:05 AM, said:

I have yet to see a Battlemaster laser vomit that couldn't be outfitted to have better DPS than any lasvomit Clan... Just because people don't do it, doesn't mean they can't.

Clan laser sustained dps on large laser boats is typically ~20-40% higher then IS. Just check this site and test your builds for yourself. If i remember correctly IS laser boats usually acheive 4 something sustained dps, 5 something at best. Clans are 5 something or 6 something in case of the supernovas.

The AVG DPS is what you should be looking at.

https://mech.nav-alp.../#BLBno4_FLE-19

Edited by lazorbeamz, 18 July 2018 - 12:57 AM.

[Nightbird]

lazorbeamz, on 18 July 2018 - 12:49 AM, said:

Clan laser sustained dps on large laser boats is typically ~20-40% higher then IS. Just check this site and test your builds for yourself. If i remember correctly IS laser boats usually acheive 4 something sustained dps, 5 something at best. Clans are 5 something or 6 something in case of the supernovas.

The AVG DPS is what you should be looking at.

https://mech.nav-alp.../#BLBno4_FLE-19

Why a Flea? Otherwise agree

[MischiefSC]

Nightbird, on 17 July 2018 - 04:57 AM, said:

Clan mechs run cooler than IS mechs. Hotter weapons are more than offset by a lot more HS.



130% of damage and 100% of DPS isn't balance. PGI seems to have realized that finally.

Correction -

Well built Clan mechs run cooler and players with good heat management skills are able to take advantage of that.

That's always been a sticking point in these discussions.

[Jon Gotham]

Can someone explain to me what sustained dps is? I'm assuming it's dps over a longer period without breaks in contact?

[Y E O N N E]

Jon Gotham, on 21 July 2018 - 02:39 PM, said:

Can someone explain to me what sustained dps is? I'm assuming it's dps over a longer period without breaks in contact?

Maximum DPS is the maximum rate at which you can deal damage, period.

Sustained DPS is the rate at which you can deal damage while remaining heat neutral, aka near the heat limit.