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[FupDup]

Mystere, on 08 September 2018 - 03:20 AM, said:

Well, if the usual crybabies did not whine about CERPPCs until they were made "quite undesirable" (to put things mildly), I'd be using them instead.

And flamers, don't forget about the flamers.

The HBR was never a popular CERPPC platform, although it does certainly have good traits for doing it (other than lacking jets). That's what the Nova and Thor are for (they still do it well).

[itsmyroad]

I think Solaris should be some event thing that happens only on weekends, or maybe once a month. Have some rewards for winning a div, playing a number of matches, etc. Definately shouldn't divide the community by having it all the time, but maybe you can bring it together with special periodic events, and enabling it.

[Mystere]

FupDup, on 08 September 2018 - 10:38 AM, said:

The HBR was never a popular CERPPC platform, although it does certainly have good traits for doing it (other than lacking jets).

Popularity did not matter to me. I loved ERPPCs on the Hellbringer.

[Stealth Fox]

Mystere, on 08 September 2018 - 01:53 PM, said:

Popularity did not matter to me. I loved ERPPCs on the Hellbringer.

This is what I would try and strive for in balance to MWO, allowing people to run weapon builds they want with out being punished by meta try hards. ****.. there are so many ideas to make more classic load outs work better. Either way.. PGI needs to be trying something other than their nerf bat to all teh weapon faces because that ain't worken and is not gonna fix it.

[Mcgral18]

FupDup, on 18 August 2018 - 06:51 PM, said:

I've always thought that somebody should just some along and start a whole new IP (with game mechanics "borrowed" from BT) instead of nuking BT so that we don't have to endure the holy wrath of the grognards.

Issue there is getting a base to play it
it's a hard market to get into, now that anyone can make a game

[MW Waldorf Statler]

oh yes the Balancing...

Chris Lowrey in

https://mwomercs.com...ts-and-roadmap/

Quote

While we know that Heavy and Assault 'Mechs are often among the most beloved and favorite 'Mechs within the BattleTech community, this favoritism is not one that we on the balance team can feed into when it comes to balancing the 'Mechs against one another within the context of a PvP first person shooter.

thats let seeing thats the most Devs have nothing Plan what doing or what MW or BT is ...here not Soldiermodels with same Hitzone,Attributes and only a Maingun ...here PGi try to balance a Military Quad against a M1 Abrams..and the Thinking mans shooter was a Joke from the first day

Edited by Old MW4 Ranger, 10 September 2018 - 11:32 AM.

[B0oN]

Mystere, on 08 September 2018 - 03:20 AM, said:

Well, if the usual crybabies did not whine about CERPPCs until they were made "quite undesirable" (to put things mildly), I'd be using them instead.

And flamers, don't forget about the flamers.

Well, Mystere, you should've done like me : I gave about less than zero zilches that ERPPCs on both sides were ****** and kept wrecking people .
One of the reasons Summoners with 2ERPPCs became so popular .
I never managed to bring the 4ERPCC Warhawk to the same level of acceptance though

[Mystere]

B0oN, on 10 September 2018 - 01:05 PM, said:

Well, Mystere, you should've done like me : I gave about less than zero zilches that ERPPCs on both sides were ****** and kept wrecking people .
One of the reasons Summoners with 2ERPPCs became so popular .
I never managed to bring the 4ERPCC Warhawk to the same level of acceptance though

Ahem! What made you think I completely stopped using them? The CERPPC is my #2 most used PPFLD weapon, with only less than 200 shots behind the CUAC/5.

As for the Warhawk, my favorite setup is still 3xCERPPC + LRM20. I was told it was quite annoying.

These day, I just can't bear placing the weapon on anything else, though.

Edited by Mystere, 10 September 2018 - 01:22 PM.

[Snowbluff]

I have a hard time using the CERPPC. I like IS PPCs better between the lower heat and quirks IS mechs get.

Although this is making me want to retry the TBR-D. lol

Edited by Snowbluff, 10 September 2018 - 03:13 PM.

[Tristan Kell]

Damn it's hilarious to reread this,l with all it's vitriol and surety and proclamations...

6 yrs later, MWO still around, MW5 around, Clans, sadly less successful while much better game. So much cope.

[LordNothing]

you do realize when this thread was started we had just dropped from 40k players to 21k players over the course of just four months. this was followed by the valley of neglect where we got all the way down to 10k players. getting that back up took a global pandemic and significant investment into revitalizing the game. we are now at 14k players. if the trend line continues we will be back to 10k in about 12 months. granted i dont think the core grognards are leaving any time soon, so this line may flatten out at some point, but would the game still be turning a profit at that point?

doom and gloom though it may be, i think this time it might come to pass. granted the mass layoffs were probibly just the clans staff leaving the building, but it doesn't send a good message. now would be a good time to post a road map beyond the stuff we already knew was coming. russ hinted at a new pvp product after clans (some time ago), but with clans being a poor investment of funds, i have a feeling they will have a hard time finding the funding to make that happen. this concerns me significantly more than the fate of mwo.

pls close the cemetery gates so the zombies dont get out.

Edited by LordNothing, 27 January 2025 - 04:41 PM.

[kalashnikity]

LordNothing, on 27 January 2025 - 04:34 PM, said:

core grognards

tee hee

[Meep Meep]

At this point as soon as a viable mech pvp shooter shows up and its good I'll probably say goodnight to mwo. It's been a fun on and off ride since beta but all things come to an end. But I'll be one of the core grognards till that day.

[Drenzul]

Honestly, if a decent mech fps with a better build system and better parts etc came along, I'd go straight away.

I think a lot of the problems with this game stem from it's adherence to BT weights etc.
They work in BT cos they were designed for BT and to be simple for TT players.
We can do much better in a computer designer.

We can be in the setting without needing to strictly follow the TT weights etc, if balance would work better otherwise.

[Ken Harkin]

I'm here until the servers go down or a supperior Battletech univers based online Mechwarrior game takes this one's place.

[pbiggz]

Drenzul, on 28 January 2025 - 03:34 AM, said:

Honestly, if a decent mech fps with a better build system and better parts etc came along, I'd go straight away.

I think a lot of the problems with this game stem from it's adherence to BT weights etc.
They work in BT cos they were designed for BT and to be simple for TT players.
We can do much better in a computer designer.

We can be in the setting without needing to strictly follow the TT weights etc, if balance would work better otherwise.

Mechwarrior is eternally weighed down by grognards with psychotic expectations and developers with perhaps confused interpretations of what makes a good mech game.

A fresh IP without the baggage and expectations of mechwarrior would surely be the way to go for a new mech game for a new age.

PGI has two entries in single player/coop mech; 5, and clans. Let them stand on their own just as 2, 3, and 4 have, and let the past be the past. We need to clear the way for something new.

[RockmachinE]

Between the long EU queue times, the increased ping, the power creep and the burnout after 12 years of playing MWO. I think its time to quit. At this point its an exercise in frustration more than anything else.

It's still one of my favorite online games and one of the most fun games I've every played. And it was free, and the nice kind of free to play too, not the draconian type where you're more or less forced to pay at some point.

I don't know how long the game will run, but I don't think it'll be around for 2 more years. I hope so, but I doubt it, what with the layoffs and the slow but steady bleed of players I think we're close to the end.

Thanks PGI. Great game. Great run!

Edited by RockmachinE, 28 January 2025 - 11:44 AM.

[pbiggz]

RockmachinE, on 28 January 2025 - 11:42 AM, said:

Between the long EU queue times, the increased ping, the power creep and the burnout after 12 years of playing MWO. I think its time to quit. At this point its an exercise in frustration more than anything else.

It's still one of my favorite online games and one of the most fun games I've every played. And it was free, and the nice kind of free to play too, not the draconian type where you're more or less forced to pay at some point.

I don't know how long the game will run, but I don't think it'll be around for 2 more years. I hope so, but I doubt it, what with the layoffs and the slow but steady bleed of players I think we're close to the end.

Thanks PGI. Great game. Great run!

Take a break. Come play when you want to play with some friends. No worrying about power creep, or features undelivered. Just an easy play session with some friends.

Thats how I play this game now.

[LordNothing]

kalashnikity, on 27 January 2025 - 10:11 PM, said:

tee hee

some players are an institution. you see them every time you play. they are always there. you may also substitute grognard with mech dad (i use either term affectionately). i suspect these are the kind of players who will wait 10+ minutes for a match and stay with the game through its death throes.

Edited by LordNothing, 28 January 2025 - 04:21 PM.

[Herod]

LordNothing, on 28 January 2025 - 04:09 PM, said:

... i suspect these are the kind of players who will wait 10+ minutes for a match and stay with the game through its death throes.

I feel attacked.