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Spheroid, on 18 September 2018 - 11:49 AM, said:

Let this topic die. The community has indicated its not needed or desired.

Do not add additional replies to this topic. Now lets see who is incapable of following this simple instruction....

Ha!
No.
Endless debate with no action. That's the future.

Voting for the map needs to be removed from Quick Play... and could get rid of voting for mode there as well. Take it back to what it was and just have to adapt each match.

Voting could serve a strategic purpose in FP if there was a reason to undertake certain missions and we did something like spend intel points on selecting those missions.
But that suggests looking at other features and adding layers of depth to evolve the mode.

[V1S0R]

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Hm....never saw u on CW...but 1628 posts...forum warrior online?

[Yondu Udonta]

No need for map banning. Just remove certain maps and modes from FP. For starters, Caustic Valley, domination, incursion, assault (my opinion). Then the game will generally be fine. Maybe Polar needs to be gone along with Alpine, idk.

[TWIAFU]

Nimnul, on 17 September 2018 - 01:46 PM, said:

Hazeclaw

I do not see a problem here. Imagine we 12 people want an siege. But 4 want to Polar. We knock out 3 times the siege. But other guys accumulate a multiplier. And in the end, for the fourth time, we'll get to the polar. It is right!. Or do you think that 12 people should play the polar, because 4 want it?

Maths be hard!

If 12 want siege, of course they would get siege, they are a 12man. If 4 on the other side want Polar then they need to work with the other 8 on their side. I could not care less what the other side wants for a map, all I want is them dead and loosing.

Unless each group or individual gets a vote. That would mean 12man = 1 vote and each skirmish groups gets one vote, up to six different votes. What then about the solo only warriors? Each one get a vote up to 12 votes?

What about Surrender Option? If 8 want to give up and surrender because there will be a fight, should the last four have to give up too because there are eight cowards?

This has bad news written all over it and would be ripe for abuse.

[Eisenhorne]

Yondu Udonta, on 20 September 2018 - 04:14 AM, said:

No need for map banning. Just remove certain maps and modes from FP. For starters, Caustic Valley, domination, incursion, assault (my opinion). Then the game will generally be fine. Maybe Polar needs to be gone along with Alpine, idk.

Alpine is decent for FP. Polar and Caustic should be removed. Polar should be removed from the game in general, but it's especially bad in FP where you have massed LRM's + NARC, and just not fun in general to spend half the game walking to the fight. Caustic should be removed because it's too small. If you push around the caldera to kill the enemy, you'll be flanked immediately by reinforcement dropships, and it's just not fun. Incursion needs to be asymmetric, like one team attacks and another defends, and then it might be fine. Obviously the buildings will need more health first though. Assault is dumb and should be removed from the game in general. Domination should be removed from FP, or the timer increased to like 5 minutes.

[Yondu Udonta]

Eisenhorne, on 20 September 2018 - 01:35 PM, said:

Alpine is decent for FP. Polar and Caustic should be removed. Polar should be removed from the game in general, but it's especially bad in FP where you have massed LRM's + NARC, and just not fun in general to spend half the game walking to the fight. Caustic should be removed because it's too small. If you push around the caldera to kill the enemy, you'll be flanked immediately by reinforcement dropships, and it's just not fun. Incursion needs to be asymmetric, like one team attacks and another defends, and then it might be fine. Obviously the buildings will need more health first though. Assault is dumb and should be removed from the game in general. Domination should be removed from FP, or the timer increased to like 5 minutes.

Alpine is a 50/50 for me, only thing that sucks about alpine is Skirmish or Domination where teams are at opposite sides of the mountain waiting to lob lurms over. I've been ranting about Caustic for the past year or so, also due to map size and also how easy it is to get punished by reinforcements. Incursion needs a big overhaul to be considered even viable as a mode for FP.

[justcallme A S H]

Alpine is rubbish.

The amount of teams I've seen full 12-mans hide at/in or behind their DZ is just ridiculous.

Granted that could happen on any map - Alpine is by far the worst for it.

[Dionnsai]

Yondu Udonta, on 20 September 2018 - 04:14 AM, said:

No need for map banning. Just remove certain maps and modes from FP. For starters, Caustic Valley, domination, incursion, assault (my opinion). Then the game will generally be fine. Maybe Polar needs to be gone along with Alpine, idk.

I think the problem with that is, in general, for every pilot that hates this map, there's someone who hates some other map because it suits their play better/worse. Bans/multipliers at least give people the ability to get the game modes they like once in awhile. That said, who the hell keeps voting for escort?

Also, while I enjoy most map/mode combinations, with as many combinations are available, it should be very statistically unlikely to get boreal attack three times in a row, and yet this does occur...

Edited by Dionnsai, 21 September 2018 - 07:37 AM.

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justcallme A S H, on 20 September 2018 - 08:11 PM, said:

Alpine is rubbish.

The amount of teams I've seen full 12-mans hide at/in or behind their DZ is just ridiculous.

Granted that could happen on any map - Alpine is by far the worst for it.

To counter, full on Assassin rush x4.

Reap the salt and laugh.

Use the knowledge of what the enemy will bring against them.

[Sjorpha]

No, and voting should be removed from quickplay as well.

Also no to removing maps and modes, there are few enough of them and even if you don't personally like all of them it's important to have the variety.

[justcallme A S H]

TWIAFU, on 21 September 2018 - 08:31 AM, said:

To counter, full on Assassin rush x4.

Reap the salt and laugh.

Use the knowledge of what the enemy will bring against them.

Any any team that is half intelligent will move into more open ground and spread out...

There is a way to counter most things and basic focus fire will stop that. Same as LBK / Crab rushes etc. ERL, done right, stops it dead.

[Yondu Udonta]

Dionnsai, on 21 September 2018 - 07:39 AM, said:

I think the problem with that is, in general, for every pilot that hates this map, there's someone who hates some other map because it suits their play better/worse. Bans/multipliers at least give people the ability to get the game modes they like once in awhile. That said, who the hell keeps voting for escort?

Also, while I enjoy most map/mode combinations, with as many combinations are available, it should be very statistically unlikely to get boreal attack three times in a row, and yet this does occur...

A good pilot adapts and brings viable mechs to the map. And don't get me started on how many times I can get boreal attack in a row.

[Dionnsai]

Yeah, for me its the variety, if I sit down to play, there are enough map/mode combinations now where it should be unlikely that I get the same thing more than once in a given combat phase.

I always wished our FW games moved along something like the way the old MS Close Combat series worked, where a victory on one map would move you on to the next section of the map, or a loss would push you back a section. Something that makes it feel like there is a progression to the fight, other than just a tug of war on a big colorful bar.

Edited by Dionnsai, 22 September 2018 - 06:39 AM.

[Nimnul]

TWIAFU


What you say is called sophistry. And what if there are no cowards? You have logic like a drug addict. Go flood in another topic and take your friends.

[Valdorel]

On the original question I would say no. It will just lead to certain maps getting picked all the time and some never. The random system forces players to play them all, including the ones they might not be as great on.

Edited by Valdorel, 28 September 2018 - 10:46 AM.

[Nimnul]

Today we got conquest 5 times in a row. Several people from our unit said they would delete the game. Before that, I did not play for a whole year. After playing a month, I realized that nothing has changed .... Transferring QP maps to FP. You do not want to transfer voting. This you drove the players out of the game, congratulations.

Edited by Nimnul, 29 September 2018 - 01:03 PM.

[K O Z A K]

I love how you spam this thread ingame to "improve the game"

your unit members were saying they were going to uninstall the game because of arties and lurms when we faced you today when we literally had 1 lrm mech on our team, so this "change the game to what I want or we quit" bs isn't going to fly

[Alexandra Hekmatyar]

Democracy in games is a mistake let's not further it on the only mode that is still something.

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V1S0R, on 20 September 2018 - 02:34 AM, said:

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Hm....never saw u on CW...but 1628 posts...forum warrior online?

Yep.
Did all of them yesterday.
Never played the game in my life.

Edited by 50 50, 02 October 2018 - 02:12 AM.

[justcallme A S H]

Nimnul, on 29 September 2018 - 11:59 AM, said:

Several people from our unit said they would delete the game.

bye then