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[Christophe Ivanov]

Does anyone know what the specifications for MW5 will be? I'll be looking to build a PC soon and want to be sure I'm within the specs.

Much thanks Folks!

[Bombast]

No hard computer specs will be available until the game is almost ready for release.

[JRcam4643]

I think it's a little early to find that info. I haven't looked for it but I doubt I would find it. I'm not sure I would build a pc around a PGI designed game either.

[ForceUser]

We know it'll be on a modified Unreal Engine, so maybe see what kind of specs recent Unreal Engine based games are running on. That should give you a rough idea.

That said, we do know that it will support VR, RTX and DLSS if any of those things interest you. That means looking at a 2080 or 2080ti if you have that kind of cash lying around.

That said a 1070 or even 1080 should be going for at or below RSP atm and if you want the best performance per $ looking at either a Ryzen 2600x or 2700x on a B450 Board with 2x8GB of 3000 or 3200 RAM will be way more than enough horsepower to run it.

It will however heavily depend on exactly how you are expecting to run it. Will you be running it at 1080p, 1440p @ 144hz or 4K?

[JediPanther]

JRcam4643, on 19 September 2018 - 03:11 PM, said:

I think it's a little early to find that info. I haven't looked for it but I doubt I would find it. I'm not sure I would build a pc around a PGI designed game either.

My old 2012 rig was for mwo. minus a new(er) video card it still runs most games today. I don't chase that 4k 60-120fps magic numbers others do.

The best way I've found to build or buy a pc is to find the most expensive currently just released pc game, find the recommended specs and then double it.

[JRcam4643]

I think Jedi is saying you need build your new pc based on Star Citizen.

[Armored Yokai]

ForceUser, on 19 September 2018 - 03:15 PM, said:

We know it'll be on a modified Unreal Engine

Huh? Where?
What exactly will make it modified?

[LordNothing]

im building a new rig next month. well most of a new rig, im keeping my psu, gpu, case, and one of my ssds. i7 8700 (not getting the k varient to keep the tdp down) 16 gigs ram a mini itx mobo and an nvme m.2 ssd.

[Moldur]

Only big thing I can think of is that some games on UE4, hardware optimization can be a little finicky. For instance, someone with an R7 1700 + gtx 1070 would be getting 45 fps while someone with a 6500 and 580 would be getting 90fps..


Now is a pretty good time to build compared to all of last year. Cards are going down in price. I think there is a deal right now for an 8gb rx580 on Newegg for less than $200 with MIR.


My guess for 1080p 60fps in UE4 on med/high settings is a build that would cost somewhere between $850 to $1000. The price range is to reflect mouse/keyboard/headphones/monitor/ and any other amenities and peripherals and whether or not you have that stuff already.

Honestly a lot of it comes down to how heavily optimized MW5 is going to be and what the game entails as in a simple vs very complex and full environment matters just as much if not more than the engine it is in. I'm not expecting much on release. UE4 + small dev team almost assuredly spells initially poor optimization, and one can only hope it will be improved. A really big factor is VRAM usage. If they go all out with textures and do not optimize rendering very well, it might be hard for older cards with 2 or 3gb of vram to keep up despite still being fairly decent cards. This would result in micro stutter and stutter regardless of frame rate. The cheapest 8gb card out there that is worth a damn is going to be an rx580 which sometimes goes for less than $200, but idk your budget if I'm guessing too low or too high. That would be my low end for a hassle free mid-high with some settings off at 1080p. Go much lower than that and I think either vram issues would come up, or you'd have to start playing it on mostly low settings to get a stable framerate.

[MW Waldorf Statler]

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That said, we do know that it will support VR, RTX and DLSS if any of those things interest you. That means looking at a 2080 or 2080ti if you have that kind of cash lying around.

...what all we heard to No Man Sky before released ...
Preview from MWO PGI... say its come a Special Joystick from Razor ...the Artemis for MWO and a FP thats so great and ... thats Today not in the Game...PGI say IK come to MWO and later ...sorry we can not

and in the Moment nothing news ..last news from a Magazine (not PGI ) MW5 not fore 2019...for MW5 news the PGI website is dead .
Best wait of Mech Con 2018 for news and when its comes seeing Previews and Comments ...in Moment we have seeing only a Generic Mission with bad AI and geric Terrainmodules (thats looking so far good)..let see what PGI brings to MW5 not what say to bring

Edited by Old MW4 Ranger, 20 September 2018 - 02:24 AM.

[Vxheous]

LordNothing, on 19 September 2018 - 05:15 PM, said:

im building a new rig next month. well most of a new rig, im keeping my psu, gpu, case, and one of my ssds. i7 8700 (not getting the k varient to keep the tdp down) 16 gigs ram a mini itx mobo and an nvme m.2 ssd.

I never understand why anyone that's shelling out for a i7 wouldn't pick up the K version. You can still run it stock and it'll perform like a 8700, but should you want to OC it, you have that option. Not to mention that MWO loves Intel at 5Ghz

[LordNothing]

Vxheous, on 20 September 2018 - 02:58 AM, said:

I never understand why anyone that's shelling out for a i7 wouldn't pick up the K version. You can still run it stock and it'll perform like a 8700, but should you want to OC it, you have that option. Not to mention that MWO loves Intel at 5Ghz

everyone says that and i give in and every time i run into heat problems at some point. mini itx and tdp dont mix. maybe il splurge at the last minute and spend the extra $20, thats my mechpack money but who cares lol. of course then i need a cooler so add another $50 for something that just might cut it. oh crap there goes my nvme drive.

design considerations call for a cut somewhere. i am trying to get the build under $900. this is actually why my plans to do a ryzen build failed (that and their 9 cm tall stock cooler that wont fit in my case). i still got a week or two to either find a low profile cooler that can handle the k varient without busting bank or find another place to cut corners. tdp is still a huge concern. i dont want a situation like where im at now that when i really crank on the cpu given a workstation task (not mwo) where all cores are going full tilt, i dont want to run into the same problems i currently have with my 4790k where things start getting unstable under maximum load. mwo just doesnt push my rig that hard.

also the whole thing has to be able to run on my 600w sfx power supply. its only a year old and its from a reputable brand. it gives me an extra inch to work with in cpu cooler clearance over a standard atx psu. this is all going into my heavily modded elite 110. good news is i wont need any sata cables or power cables for drives, its all m.2. this also clears the psu intake fan to give it full access to the upper vent. il probibly also 3d print fan shrouds for both the psu and video card so that they get full access to cool air from outside the case and force the rest of the airflow to cool everything else.

Edited by LordNothing, 20 September 2018 - 06:49 AM.

[Eisenhorne]

Vxheous, on 20 September 2018 - 02:58 AM, said:

I never understand why anyone that's shelling out for a i7 wouldn't pick up the K version. You can still run it stock and it'll perform like a 8700, but should you want to OC it, you have that option. Not to mention that MWO loves Intel at 5Ghz

It's not just a couple of bucks more for that 8700K though... you gotta figure that you now need to buy a cooler, because it doesn't come with a stock cooler. that's an additional 50-100 dollars to your build cost, above the extra cost of the CPU.

[LordNothing]

Armored Yokai, on 19 September 2018 - 04:53 PM, said:

Huh? Where?
What exactly will make it modified?

the part where pgi gimps the engine and then the programmer quits and pgi is left with a massive blob of unmaintainable code. then ends up basing their entire game on mods for that tangled mess.

Edited by LordNothing, 20 September 2018 - 07:14 AM.

[Tom Sawyer]

I heard Russ is hard at work converting MW5 to use the new ray tracing. You will need to pony up right now for a 2080 or better card, a I9, chip, 128gb of DDR4, M2 drive with a minimum of 1tb for game files, a 32 iinch gysnc 4k monitor with HDR......

WAIT umm sorry, that will be Cyberpunk 2077

move along.

[Peter2k]

Christophe Ivanov, on 19 September 2018 - 03:03 PM, said:

Does anyone know what the specifications for MW5 will be? I'll be looking to build a PC soon and want to be sure I'm within the specs.

Much thanks Folks!

Well nothing official
But any recent Ryzen with 6 cores (less frequency than Intel, makes up for with more cores), or at least an i5 from the 6th gen forwards should get you going well enough
Then again, if your sporting a highly overclocked older Intel it probably would be fine too
Its just that MWO is not optimized, never really was

any other game is easier on the CPU in general, hell an i3 might do the trick as long as you dial down some things and have a decent enough graphics card


And the graphics, well 1060 would probably be a minimum on usable fps while having some decent graphics still
also resolution does matter for your question

Vxheous, on 20 September 2018 - 02:58 AM, said:

I never understand why anyone that's shelling out for a i7 wouldn't pick up the K version. You can still run it stock and it'll perform like a 8700, but should you want to OC it, you have that option. Not to mention that MWO loves Intel at 5Ghz

Actually the K versions have higher boosts than the non K, making them always the better option, even if you dont want to do the ridiculously easy OC on the 7th and 8th gen Intels

my 7600K @5.2 does run MWO really nice
Now if I wouldn't have to completely redo my cable working then I might've even upgraded to a newer CPU, but I'm not looking forward to ripping out my board again

LordNothing, on 20 September 2018 - 07:12 AM, said:

the part where pgi gimps the engine and then the programmer quits and pgi is left with a massive blob of unmaintainable code. then ends up basing their entire game on mods for that tangled mess.

You think they might have learned from the past

Still Russ mused about upgrading the engine, too bad that did go nowhere
Maybe it would've made things easier to handle in MWO

Ehh, missed train

Eisenhorne, on 20 September 2018 - 06:43 AM, said:

It's not just a couple of bucks more for that 8700K though... you gotta figure that you now need to buy a cooler, because it doesn't come with a stock cooler. that's an additional 50-100 dollars to your build cost, above the extra cost of the CPU.

Mmm, but the rig would be good for quite some time, hard to beat 5+Ghz on a recent i7 with 6 cores/12 threads
It's money well spent

Also the stock cooler is quite frankly not that good, look to AMD for a good stock cooler

LordNothing, on 20 September 2018 - 06:27 AM, said:

mini itx and tdp dont mix.

Easy, do a delid, or wait for the next gen which uses solder again
done

Also TDP is always measured at stock clocks, not boost
the 8700 has a higher TDP when using the boost, and it always boosts in reality

Edited by Peter2k, 20 September 2018 - 09:04 AM.

[Christophe Ivanov]

A BIG THANKS folks! I enjoyed this thread and all the info you guys forked over. As for "SOON" well that soon will be sometime next year, well past Mechcon which I hope gives us some idea where to go machine wise.

Keep it going if you need to add more!

[Eisenhorne]

Peter2k, on 20 September 2018 - 08:50 AM, said:

Mmm, but the rig would be good for quite some time, hard to beat 5+Ghz on a recent i7 with 6 cores/12 threads
It's money well spent

Also the stock cooler is quite frankly not that good, look to AMD for a good stock cooler

True, and I used an 8700K in my new computer, but just wanted to clarify that it's not "just" $20 more or so, it's more like $70-$120 more when you factor in the cooler cost, and if you're on a budget that's not an insignificant expense.

[Vxheous]

Eisenhorne, on 20 September 2018 - 06:43 AM, said:

It's not just a couple of bucks more for that 8700K though... you gotta figure that you now need to buy a cooler, because it doesn't come with a stock cooler. that's an additional 50-100 dollars to your build cost, above the extra cost of the CPU.

If you're doing a ITX build, you're probably best to get a small AIO cooler and vent that excess heat out of the case anyways.

[LordNothing]

i dont think mw5 will have requirements to absurdly out there. it will support the rtx but that is an expensive proposition and most people will just be running with that feature disabled anyway. with moore's law dead in the water cpus arent really going anywhere. clocks are actually down and chips are going for more cores. i have my doubts that even ue4 can use all those cores.

Vxheous, on 20 September 2018 - 05:01 PM, said:

If you're doing a ITX build, you're probably best to get a small AIO cooler and vent that excess heat out of the case anyways.

i considered that but thats an extra $80. also i dont trust these aio coolers that much. everything i read said they work great until they fail and they always fail catastrophically. there just isnt a low profile air cooler with spectacular performance.

Peter2k, on 20 September 2018 - 08:50 AM, said:

Easy, do a delid, or wait for the next gen which uses solder again
done

Also TDP is always measured at stock clocks, not boost
the 8700 has a higher TDP when using the boost, and it always boosts in reality

dont think i want to go that far. i dont even like to overclock. its quite the pickle. save getting my old case out of mothballs and bringing it back up to snuff (money) or buying a new case (money) and i still have to buy the cooler.