37 replies to this topic

[Alexandra Hekmatyar]

For me the Light Gauss is fine as it is and the changes are small like a bigger engine and a little bit more damage on range for my catapults.

But are there folk that are like: "Yeah now I'm gonna use it!"?
If yes, why, if no, what needs to change to the weapon for you to consider using it?

[Eisenhorne]

Still not gonna use it. It needs more damage per shot, it's too heavy for the damage it provides. Increase cooldown and make it 10 damage, and I'll consider it viable.

[Snowbluff]

Not at all.
The buff is to ammo, which really only brings it in line to 200 damage/ton.

I think the CDR needs to be lower or the charge needs to be removed entirely so it's DPS is more viable.

[Hanks 427]

It's fun to run 4 light gauss and constantly sending rounds downrange, but the damage is mostly dissapointing.

[Daurock]

In short - No. It doesn't really do anything for the weapon. Throwing the extreme effective range out there a little further doesn't fix the fundamental problem with the weapon - It doesn't do enough damage for its weight, and has other alternatives that far out-strip it.

I mentioned it in a post a few days back, but I think what I'd like to see with the weapon would be an Increase in damage, and a cooldown more in line with the clan gauss rifle. (As it already shares a tonnage with the Clan gauss, have it share damage with it too.) As a down side, the weapon would only be capable of charging 1 at a time, and have a ghost heat threshold also set to 1.

This "Anti-boat" type of behavior would make the weapon the Go-To for lighter IS mechs, and some Heavier mechs looking to add a single gauss to their Vomit build. Mechs running twins, those looking for Gauss+PPC builds, and those mechs which run into situations where they're slot limited rather than tonnage limited, would be looking at the Standard Gauss Rifles instead.

It would give the weapon a niche to be used in, tighten up the Clan-VS-IS vomit equation a little bit, and keep it from stepping on the AC 2/5 Toes in that it doesn't become a spammy weapon. (Something its somewhat in danger of already with its current cooldown.)

[Nightbird]

allow charging 4

[Tiewolf]

That's an easy one. NO!

[Khobai]

it needed 10 damage and a slightly longer cooldown to balance out the additional damage

not more ammo per ton



and all you nerfherders that are like "but if LGauss did 10 damage the AC10 would be obsolete"; the AC10 is already obsolete because of the UAC10. Light Gauss needs to compete with the UAC10 not the AC10.

Edited by Khobai, 12 November 2018 - 08:56 AM.

[Xeno Phalcon]

I would remove the charge mechanic - firing light gauss on a ballistic quirked mech is literally painful. (like, no joke I got a cramp in my finger lol)

[lobsterhierarchy]

Against opponents with a coordinated team and high Alpha peek builds, it is absolutely terrible. However, it is a wonderful potato blaster in solo queue

Those poor tatos think it is a much bigger weapon than it actually is.

[Lightfoot]

9 damage. Or remove the charge-up. Charge-up is ridiculous for a weapon that does 8 damage, and why you should never add apocryphal nerf systems to BattleTech main weapons to fix a hole in your game. It's like the Light Gauss inherited the charge-up from the standard Gauss for continuity and not for any 'Balancing' reason.

[Gen Lee]

I think there are several things they could do to make it worth the investment into the crit space and weight, but I think a simple +2 increase to damage would work just fine. I'd leave the cooldown as it is now, and the ammo after the recent ammo buff, and give it 10 damage per shot. Leave the charge mechanic in for now. See how that works.

[dwwolf]

As the ultra sniping weapon niche exemplar does it really need a charge up ?
Just add the charge up to cooldown time.
DPS is already significantly lower than AC10 and AC/2.

[Khobai]

dwwolf, on 12 November 2018 - 12:48 PM, said:

As the ultra sniping weapon niche exemplar does it really need a charge up ?
Just add the charge up to cooldown time.
DPS is already significantly lower than AC10 and AC/2.

the AC10's dps is significantly lower than the UAC10's dps

you should be comparing light gauss to the UAC10 not the AC10. the AC10 is obsolete and has been for a while.

[LordNothing]

Nightbird, on 12 November 2018 - 08:42 AM, said:

allow charging 4

3 maybe, but 4 might be a little extreme. mind you this would only apply for lgrs. 24 damage at range seems competitive with erll, erppc and ac2 spam.

[Shadowomega1]

They didn't just increase the the ammo count by 5 per ton (2 per half ton) they also buffed the max from 1500 to 1600 which goes a heck of a lot higher with range quirks and skills. Though I would have push its optimal range out a bit more like 950m or 1000m before the range quirks.

[dwwolf]

Shadowomega1, on 12 November 2018 - 03:13 PM, said:

They didn't just increase the the ammo count by 5 per ton (2 per half ton) they also buffed the max from 1500 to 1600 which goes a heck of a lot higher with range quirks and skills. Though I would have push its optimal range out a bit more like 950m or 1000m before the range quirks.

Oh wait A target appears at 1600M...charge uuuu....FFFFFFFF he's gone.

[El Bandito]

dwwolf, on 12 November 2018 - 12:48 PM, said:

As the ultra sniping weapon niche exemplar does it really need a charge up ?
Just add the charge up to cooldown time.
DPS is already significantly lower than AC10 and AC/2.

AC2 builds accumulate heat though and can be at risk of overheating. Gauss families use only 1 heat so they can sustain indefinitely. So there must be some draw backs.

Still will not use LGauss post patch except for some fun builds, cause of 13 tons for 8 damage with charge. I am fine with PTR experimenting with LGauss with no charge.

[Jay Leon Hart]

If it did as much damage as a Large Laser, it would be worth taking on more than a few builds. As-is I only bother on a Rifleman and Uziel.

[GoatHILL]

Get rid of the charge and I'd use it. For the weight/dmg/range I'd just take reg gauss or an AC10.

When some ankle biter is circling me I want more than 8dmg if I have to deal with charging up.