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[El Bandito]

If player reviews are good, I will buy MW5 at full price of $60. However, no pre-orders. Never pre-order; only villains do that.

[Karl Streiger]

Acersecomic, on 12 December 2018 - 04:11 AM, said:

Oh really? You know what the story is going to be? Who's your source?

Was mentioned a year or two ago, in short words the same as MW2 MERC, your unit got destroyed you survived and you go for vengeance... bla bla bla

[El Bandito]

Karl Streiger, on 12 December 2018 - 06:04 AM, said:

Was mentioned a year or two ago, in short words the same as MW2 MERC, your unit got destroyed you survived and you go for vengeance... bla bla bla

In MW2 Merc you do not go for vengeance. In MW4 you do, but as a noble.

Merc vengeance theme itself has been around from the earliest BT novel--Decision at Thunder Rift. On the one hand, it is a throwback to early times, but on the other hand, such plot is too cliché.

Edited by El Bandito, 12 December 2018 - 06:20 AM.

[Asym]

Not until the trusted "reviews" are out. I didn't join MWO at the beginning because the reviews were terrible.....they were right !

I imagine a bunch will run out and buy MW5........the core 40% of the playing population. Unless there is a "team" component that allows the elite teams to gather, MW5's reception will be like Solaris....... PGI "assumed" that the elite teams would flock to Solaris to fight against each other for bragging rights............ha !!! all 12 of those players showed up for heavens sake......!!!

Now, a single player game mode with some coop gimmick....... Not till it goes on sale or becomes free.... PGI: for me once, shame on me..............not again. Never again.....

[Fed0t]

Been waiting for this game since 2009, of course i'm buying it! And if they will throw a decent quality story\mechpack DLC once a year after release - i think i'll buy it too, but that depends on how base game will entertain me.

[Bishop Steiner]

Bud Crue, on 12 December 2018 - 04:33 AM, said:

Probably not.
And oddly, it’s not because of PGI or its conduct related to MWO.

It’s weird. 5 years ago, I would have jumped at a MW5 or some other single player game like it. The very idea of playing one of these fancy multi-player games that needed internet and a decent computer, and not to mention the requisite interaction with a bunch of dorks from who knows where, just seemed beyond my comfort zone to the point of being decadent. Once I finally bit the bullet and tried MWO (my nostalgia for the underlying IP wouldn’t forever be denied) I found that not only do I enjoy the PVP aspect of the game (even if I am terrible at it), but now I can’t fathom actually playing any sort of game with out that social and PVP aspects. Hell, I didn’t even bother with BT even though I was just as excited as most were for its development and release. So no, I don’t see myself picking up MW5, at least not until it, or whatever comes after it, is something along the lines of MWO2. I hope MW5 is as super duper as everyone hopes and its success leads to a future for MWO or something like it, but I just don’t care to play that sort of game anymore.

Playing with 3 friends not quite social enough for you? Maybe it's the Aspie in me, but that bit (if it delivers) is probably one of the best things they are trying to do. I enjoy dropping with friends, but can cheerfully live without having Trolls and Tryhards every match.

As for he OP? It's a Mechwarrior/Battletech Product. Even if it's middle of the road, chances are high I would end up buying it. But how fast I'll run out depends a lo on the state of the game leading up to release, incentives given, and if nothing is done to convince me to pre-order, how it reviews after shipping.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 12 December 2018 - 06:47 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Asym, on 12 December 2018 - 06:29 AM, said:

Not until the trusted "reviews" are out. I didn't join MWO at the beginning because the reviews were terrible.....they were right !

I imagine a bunch will run out and buy MW5........the core 40% of the playing population. Unless there is a "team" component that allows the elite teams to gather, MW5's reception will be like Solaris....... PGI "assumed" that the elite teams would flock to Solaris to fight against each other for bragging rights............ha !!! all 12 of those players showed up for heavens sake......!!!

Now, a single player game mode with some coop gimmick....... Not till it goes on sale or becomes free.... PGI: for me once, shame on me..............not again. Never again.....

In fairness, MWO assumed Solaris because people constantly squealed for it on the forums. Roughly half of PGIs missteps can be linked to ideas pushed on the forums. The other half comes from their ineptitude at choosing which of the 50 dissenting opinions to follow, and then the various degrees of effort put into actually trying to implement them.

*shrugs*

[KodiakGW]

Looks like a good question for a poll.

1) Take my preorder money!
2) If it is done well, full price. No preorder
3) If it is done well, on sale. No preorder
4) If they show they care about MWO player base by making changes I want to see, then one of the above.
5) NOPE!

[Bud Crue]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 December 2018 - 06:45 AM, said:

Playing with 3 friends not quite social enough for you? Maybe it's Aspie in me, but that bit (if it delivers) is probably one of the best things. I enjoy dropping with friends, but can cheerfully live without having Trolls and Tryhards every match.

I doubt it. Playing MW5 with 3 other folks might be nice for a bit, but with only MW5’s AI to play against over and over I suspect that will get old real fast and be fairly unsatisfying from a social aspect as well. I mean in MWO GQ I play with a mixed group of about 20 fairly regular players with another 20 or more who dip in now and again. Of these folks, nightly there is always 4-8 and sometimes in excess of 12 of these folks playing. On the other side we play against probably another 100 or so folks of the usual suspects playing in our time frame, with many others coming and going. Many of us know each other. We banter with each other we have a good time (even with the Trolls and Tryhards).

I don’t see MW5 providing that same sort of social interaction or aspect. A game where you drop with just 3 more people against an AI is just not what I am looking for in my 1-2 hours of evening play; that’s really all there is to it. Nothing against single player games, but they just aren’t my thing anymore. I’d no more play a single player video game than I would willingly go bowling by myself. The social aspect is what makes both activities fun and worth wasting time on imo.

No worries though, I am sure many of us old lore nerds and mech porn junkies will buy it and enjoy it; and maybe even I will if MWO really does shut down within a few months of its launch, just to get my mech porn fix. But I suspect that I’ll just go play something else with a more social aspect to it once MWO is no longer viable while I wait for the next iteration.

[Acersecomic]

Karl Streiger, on 12 December 2018 - 06:04 AM, said:

Was mentioned a year or two ago, in short words the same as MW2 MERC, your unit got destroyed you survived and you go for vengeance... bla bla bla

And you think that can't be redone well?

[Alurath]

I love the social aspect of playing MWO with friends. I don't see the need to run out and buy another Mech Warrior game when MWO exists. If MWO is cut down in quality then I wouldn't purchase another game from PGI.

[LordNothing]

certainly not preordering thats for sure. il wait for reviews to tell me im not wasting my money. no not those shill reviews, im talking from people in the community who are going to give an honest opinion. special weight will be given to those with a lot of salt in their diet.

[Karl Streiger]

Acersecomic, on 12 December 2018 - 07:17 AM, said:

And you think that can't be redone well?

It can be done well, but we are talking about PGI.

They had a couple of chances in the past do do great things in MWO... and they missed every single step.

Edited by Karl Streiger, 12 December 2018 - 07:36 AM.

[OldSchoolCav]

Not a chance, and I’ve probably spent $200 on MWO this year (stupid, I know). The problem isn’t the money, it’s the fact that playing against AI gets old real quick. You play Skyrim every night for the last few years? Anybody still playing CIV? The only thing that makes this fun in the long run is the challenge of playing people. They can suck or be salty, but they make the meta evolve in ways the AI in MW5 won’t. I would gladly pay a subscription fee for MWO FW if they’d publish a few new maps each year and spend some time fixing the same stuff we’ve been complaining about. But I won’t pay a penny for MW5.

Edited by OldSchoolCav, 12 December 2018 - 03:04 PM.

[Acersecomic]

Karl Streiger, on 12 December 2018 - 07:35 AM, said:

It can be done well, but we are talking about PGI.

They had a couple of chances in the past do do great things in MWO... and they missed every single step.

Mmmm, do have to agree on that...
Well, I'm still keeping my hopes up.

[GeminiWolf]

TheCallandor, on 12 December 2018 - 12:01 AM, said:

So how many of you are going to purchase Mech5? With the lack of support from PGI in regards to MWO.. I will not sport a company that has so much disregard for their player base. They consistently push out bad patches and balances that no one asked for...

The players asking for the balances and patches are the Large Competitive Units, so you aren't seeing them asked for as they have a direct line to the people that matter at PGI. The lack of support for MWO is because its an ancient game in reference to a F2P game, by now most F2P games have made II and III versions of the original and PGI would rather put their resources into a "New" game which might make them more money without all the constant Balance complaints of an MMO. Sell DLC packs and so on and so forth.

[Dru The Blue]

I’ve watched this company developed a game for years... they can’t even execute a functional friends list.

[InspectorG]

If my 'Unit' plays it and we can do something similar to Time Trials, likely.

Otherwise i have no interest in Robot Skyrim.

[Stonefalcon]

TheCallandor, on 12 December 2018 - 12:01 AM, said:

So how many of you are going to purchase Mech5? With the lack of support from PGI in regards to MWO.. I will not sport a company that has so much disregard for their player base. They consistently push out bad patches and balances that no one asked for...

Short answer, Yes.

Long answer, Russ told me it has Annihilators, so f$%king YES!!

[Galaxie 500]

I don't really care about it; I want a fully PvP game, and for all its flaws, MWO is still the closest thing I have to what I want to be playing. I just wish it were in the hands of a team that would put it on a nice flexible new codebase and drive it to its optimum potential. Even with the difficult learning curve of a game with such complex controls, I think that could pay off well in the right hands.