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[thievingmagpi]

SirSmokes, on 17 December 2018 - 11:50 AM, said:

I know I have my DPI really low for that don't really use LRM all that much but I will use them. I like lasers and guass myself but hey whatever I will leave it to the try hard to complain about LRMs.

Oh yes, tryhards, the old forumspeak meaning "people better than me"

[Lawrence Elsa]

Does no one understand that the people in this thread saying LRMs are OP have used LRMs to the point of constant 1k+ damage in solo and group que and 4k Faction que?
Not even the "I used my foot and got 1k" that we've passed around, but at risk of Name and Shame: Justcallme A S H, Writhen, Bowser, denAirwalker, Pelmeshek, and Eisenhorn who all do/did 1k+ per mech with LRMs on a regular basis probably have some merit in saying these weapon needs a re-work. Hell, I'm not even that good and I can say Clan LRM/ATMs are great for padding damage stats since anyone who exposes to shoot me is guaranteed to lose the trade to my LRM fire thanks to Target Decay, buildings be damned. (except for the ATMs, at least buildings block those most of the time)

Edited by Lawrence Elsa, 17 December 2018 - 12:06 PM.

[The pessimistic optimist]

thievingmagpi, on 17 December 2018 - 11:57 AM, said:

Oh yes, tryhards, the old forumspeak meaning "people better than me"

No I could really be a lot better if I wanted to put time in but I play to have fun and your try hards because you care so much about your stats so much so that any little thing that hurts your stats makes you whine like babies. If I really cared about that I would play the game differently. I would only take meta mechs I would only play with people that are same skill level. But I like to have fun taking silly mech builds for fun or playing with lower skill player for fun. So yea try hards. Also I am not a bad player at all;)

Edited by SirSmokes, 17 December 2018 - 12:05 PM.

[MW Waldorf Statler]

1:Each map has most enough Cover
2:LRMs spread of all Hitzones
3:IS LRMS have 180m minimum Range
4:Radar Deprivation is very good against LRMs
5.With nor direct lock or long LOS(who the support fire from your Team?) ,Spotter or UAV the most LRMS in a 800-1000m Range only Terraforming
6:AMS is your Friend
7:You become a Acoustic Warning!
8:not stand free alone
9:Not run to long without Cover in Near
10:no stand alone or go alone over a ridge or fight in small places like entrys or the crimson ridge and all reds can focus her fire to a single target thats not have the place to move and blocked from his teammates.

not play assaults when you have nothing experience or to slow Mechs

in all the Years im can say thats LRMS make me only in very rare Situations a problem (bad position/or im drive once in the Year for events a Assault) ...spotters , Narcs) and thats im killed from LRMS very rare ...

by good Pilots LRMs can deadly ..only good LRM pilots like White Unicorns...im self use never metamechs and very rare my 40lrm madcat or catapult and when im kill people with only lrms (never use lrms only ...most im use my medium or large lasers)the most doing all faults you can make .

Edited by Old MW4 Ranger, 17 December 2018 - 12:27 PM.

[Lawrence Elsa]

SirSmokes, on 17 December 2018 - 12:04 PM, said:

No I could really be a lot better if I wanted to put time in but I play to have fun and your try hards because you care so much about your stats so much so that any little thing that hurts your stats makes you whine like babies. If I really cared about that I would play the game differently. I would only take meta mechs I would only play with people that are same skill level. But I like to have fun taking silly mech builds for fun or playing with lower skill player for fun. So yea try hards. Also I am not a bad player at all;)

So you think the skill ceiling should be as high as your own effort? Do you not think it is selfish that people who put in more effort to perform better for a game that has had the potential to have professional teams and prize money on the line should reward people who don't?
Why?
What does a multiplayer PVP game have to gain from that?

This isn't even about LRMs at this point: I want to know why you would want ANY game to punish people who try harder than you, be it Super Smash Brothers, Overwatch, CSGO, Black Ops 4, Battlefield 5, etc.

[thievingmagpi]

SirSmokes, on 17 December 2018 - 12:04 PM, said:

No I could really be a lot better if I wanted to put time in but I play to have fun and your try hards because you care so much about your stats so much so that any little thing that hurts your stats makes you whine like babies. If I really cared about that I would play the game differently. I would only take meta mechs I would only play with people that are same skill level. But I like to have fun taking silly mech builds for fun or playing with lower skill player for fun. So yea try hards. Also I am not a bad player at all;)

can't make this stuff up

[The pessimistic optimist]

thievingmagpi, on 17 December 2018 - 12:28 PM, said:

can't make this stuff up

You guy just don't quit but hey your having fun why stop;)

Edited by SirSmokes, 17 December 2018 - 12:31 PM.

[Fyrehawk]

Is this where i come to trigger the LRM apologist mongoloids? I came here to provide constructive criticism and a unique perspective to this conversation. But upon perusing the thread, all my points have already been made by fellow people that understand how competitive PvP games should work. And if yall apologist still refuse to accept said quantified information, that's a decision to your detriment. Good luck with being good at any game that includes PvP with that mentality

Edited by FyreHawk, 17 December 2018 - 12:43 PM.

[The pessimistic optimist]

FyreHawk, on 17 December 2018 - 12:37 PM, said:

Is this where i come to trigger the LRM apologist mongoloids? I came here to provide constructive criticism and a unique perspective to this conversation. But upon perusing the thread, all my points have already been made by fellow people that understand how competitive PvP games should work. And if yall apologist still refuse to accept said quantified information, that's a decision to your detriment. Good luck with being good at any game that includes PvP with that mentality

LRM are a staple Battletech weapons ok there not going any were.
https://www.google.c...i67.zobnupgpl5I
They should be a good usable weapon ok or take them out of the game.

Edited by SirSmokes, 17 December 2018 - 12:59 PM.

[MisterSomaru]

Grus, on 17 December 2018 - 11:38 AM, said:

My 4lrm15 scorch will feast on your salty lurm tears... and when youre battered and brused, fed up, and angry.. you bee line for where the foul purveyor of indirect fire is comming from.. then, suddenly, as you crest the hill to vanquish the filth... 2lbx20's starring up at you, show you the error of your decision.

my dual lb20, quad asrm6 scorch would like to say "Hi" and casually trundle past that smoking, wrecked, bracket build abomination.

Edited by MrSomaru, 17 December 2018 - 12:53 PM.

[K O Z A K]

thievingmagpi, on 17 December 2018 - 12:28 PM, said:

can't make this stuff up

usually I'm not one to refer to peoples jarls stats, but damn 19339, I didn't even know numbers like that exist on the list

we should just make 2 threads, and sticky them so people don't have to make a new one every few days, and we can just have a 500 page discussion there (may need full time moderator, lol):

Thread 1: LRMs are overnerfed, they're the most skilled, hardest weapons to use in the game because there's counters, need buffs

Thread 2: LRMs are noobtubes, require no skill, and are parasitic in nature

[thievingmagpi]

How Mechwarrior should feel:










How mechdads want the game to play:

Edited by thievingmagpi, 17 December 2018 - 01:16 PM.

[K O Z A K]

thievingmagpi, on 17 December 2018 - 01:14 PM, said:

is the red tank holding locks?

[Novakaine]

I find it highly entertaining although quite juvenile that some people.
Bother with percentages in a video game.
Age I would suppose.
Holla back at me when you shall we a bit more mature to speak of.

[Alexandra Hekmatyar]

I don't really care about LRM's in quick play but in Faction I find them annoying and I'm talking about most lurm users in my group.
Best example is Boreal Vault defense where a lot of people decide to go lurmagaddon and camp around G7 and only come off there is if they move a new lurm mech in there after they've died.

[The pessimistic optimist]

Alexandra Hekmatyar, on 17 December 2018 - 01:37 PM, said:

I don't really care about LRM's in quick play but in Faction I find them annoying and I'm talking about most lurm users in my group.
Best example is Boreal Vault defense where a lot of people decide to go lurmagaddon and camp around G7 and only come off there is if they move a new lurm mech in there after they've died.

Try bum rushing there asses with 12 of these CRB-27 and shoot for legs see how they like that;)

[Alexandra Hekmatyar]

SirSmokes, on 17 December 2018 - 02:08 PM, said:

Try bum rushing there asses with 12 of these CRB-27 and shoot for legs see how they like that;)

Lol I'm talking about my own team not the enemy team lurming.
One can only team kill so much until you get banned.

[x Deathstrike x]

thievingmagpi, on 17 December 2018 - 12:28 PM, said:

can't make this stuff up

My thoughts exactly.
If I put more work into anything I could be the number one of everything as well.

Edited by x Deathstrike x, 17 December 2018 - 03:13 PM.

[The pessimistic optimist]

x Deathstrike x, on 17 December 2018 - 03:11 PM, said:

My thoughts exactly.
If I put more work into anything I could be the number one of everything as well.

Keep your head down there are those damn missiles.

[K O Z A K]

I love how when people use real world missiles as an argument of how effective LRMs should be, they forget to mention that in real life there's also missile interception systems with over 90% hit rate