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#1 The6thMessenger

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Posted 17 December 2018 - 06:21 PM



Could we get an Urbanmech IIC now?

#2 Shadowomega1

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Posted 17 December 2018 - 06:23 PM

View PostThe6thMessenger, on 17 December 2018 - 06:21 PM, said:



Could we get an Urbanmech IIC now?


They should have done it months ago so we could have it out for c-bills for this coming Easter.

#3 FRAGTAST1C

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Posted 17 December 2018 - 06:40 PM

Is there going to be another bonus MC sale or something?

#4 Battlemaster56

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Posted 17 December 2018 - 09:03 PM

The lack of Urbie IIC, clearly shows the signs of heresy nearby.

We need our holy god mech!

#5 BrunoSSace

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 12:14 AM

It will be Clan so no armor quirks, I hope you guys know this.

#6 Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 06:18 AM

View PostBrunoSSace, on 18 December 2018 - 12:14 AM, said:

It will be Clan so no armor quirks, I hope you guys know this.


who needs armor anyway?
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Edited by Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie, 18 December 2018 - 06:20 AM.


#7 jjm1

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 10:04 AM

We will be needing 4 mech packs a month.

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 10:10 AM

View PostBrunoSSace, on 18 December 2018 - 12:14 AM, said:

It will be Clan so no armor quirks, I hope you guys know this.


Orion IIC

#9 Battlemaster56

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 12:50 PM

View PostBrunoSSace, on 18 December 2018 - 12:14 AM, said:

It will be Clan so no armor quirks, I hope you guys know this.

Supernova, Highlander IIC, Dire Wolf, Executioner, Gargoyle, Linebacker, Mad Dog(them C pods are really strong),Mist Lynx,etc.

#10 FupDup

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 01:11 PM

View PostBattlemaster56, on 18 December 2018 - 12:50 PM, said:

Supernova, Highlander IIC, Dire Wolf, Executioner, Gargoyle, Linebacker, Mad Dog(them C pods are really strong),Mist Lynx,etc.

To be fair most of those are Omnimechs. Battlemechs on the Clan side are generally not as fortunate.

#11 Battlemaster56

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 01:24 PM

View PostFupDup, on 18 December 2018 - 01:11 PM, said:

To be fair most of those are Omnimechs. Battlemechs on the Clan side are generally not as fortunate.

I generalize the whole list when dealing with clans, and tbh on Clan battlemechs they generally are good from the get go only few need survivability quirks.

#12 Daurock

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 01:26 PM

View PostBattlemaster56, on 18 December 2018 - 01:24 PM, said:

I generalize the whole list when dealing with clans, and tbh on Clan battlemechs they generally are good from the get go only few need survivability quirks.


My observed rule is that if a clan mech can field a reasonable (for the tonnage) weapon loadout, it doesn't get to have good quirks. From that criteria, only battlemechs with poor hardpoint count and location, or omnis with over-sized engines are deemed worthy of quirks.

By that token, the urbie-2C would be relatively quirk-free. (See cougar, kit fox or adder for similar mech quirk levels, or lack thereof)

Edited by Daurock, 18 December 2018 - 01:28 PM.


#13 FupDup

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 02:47 PM

View PostDaurock, on 18 December 2018 - 01:26 PM, said:

By that token, the urbie-2C would be relatively quirk-free. (See cougar, kit fox or adder for similar mech quirk levels, or lack thereof)

It's a pity too, because those three gundams really need it.

#14 Daurock

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 03:14 PM

View PostFupDup, on 18 December 2018 - 02:47 PM, said:

It's a pity too, because those three gundams really need it.


No disputing that, lol. The only things i've been able to field consistently with any of those are either LRM boats, or an Iron-Dome.

#15 Shadowomega1

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 08:59 PM

View PostFupDup, on 18 December 2018 - 02:47 PM, said:

It's a pity too, because those three gundams really need it.


View PostDaurock, on 18 December 2018 - 03:14 PM, said:


No disputing that, lol. The only things i've been able to field consistently with any of those are either LRM boats, or an Iron-Dome.


My Adder wouldn't mind some armor quirks, 5 mpl light hunting is hard work when heavy mechs decide to use you as portable leg cover; only to shot you in the back, while blocking your back up route when the enemy shots back.

As for the Urban IIC having armor quirks I could see it as it would have pretty much the same hard point count as the IS urban, ad the difference in weapons it would mount are minimal.

#16 Alvar Von Kenesthor

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 01:49 AM

You should give up.
Not that I don't want the mech in-game.
It's my most favored mech to be added in fact.

The problem is that PGI royally screwed this one up.
Someone had the genious idea to design the IIC model before the clans were even introduced into the game, and have it as the Urbanmech R63(C) 's skin in the Urbie' s mechpack Collector's edition. "Coz why not?" I guess...

The model is already in game, so there would be a need for a third one, and no-one seems up for the task because it's more important to design made-up Franken-assaults (contrary to any pre-established Lore and despite already existing far better options for a "pirate's mech" like the Brigand) than making up for past mistakes or giving the community one of the few mechs that have been consistently requested for years to no avail despite not requiring any additional tech introductions (unlike IS omnis for example).

One of the key factors in a game is visual recognition. Mechs must be easy to differentiate just by looking at it, a good example of this principle would be the Jenner VS Jenner IIC or the Orion VS Orion IIC. Which helps recognize the threat even before the enemy information ® has loaded
But having two similar models for a single mech is quite problematic, so PGI would have to design a mech that while differing from the two pre-established ones, fits with the clanner aesthetic.
Plus most of their current resources go towards MW5.
The only content we've seen in months were either MW5 asset mechs or clan-tech along with it's respective spreadsheet nerfs.
In March old maps are even going to be reintroduced in the rotation, but is it because after being requested for years, the playerbase's insistence worked? Or is it because there is no better option being developed in the meanwhile, and that may help stop the player numbers bleed?
And all this negativity just helps the "abandon ship! Effect" towards MWO, specially since a lot of the player base already left once the skill tree dropped...

So don't expect the Urbanmech IIC to be added any soon.
That will make the next mechpack be a tiny bit less of a disappointment.
You can't lose your hopes if you don't have any left.

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 01:53 AM

View PostAlvar Von Kenesthor, on 19 December 2018 - 01:49 AM, said:

The problem is that PGI royally screwed this one up.
Someone had the genious idea to design the IIC model before the clans were even introduced into the game, and have it as the Urbanmech R63(C) 's skin in the Urbie' s mechpack Collector's edition. "Coz why not?" I guess...

The model is already in game, so there would be a need for a third one, and no-one seems up for the task because it's more important to design made-up Franken-assaults (contrary to any pre-established Lore and despite already existing far better options for a "pirate's mech" like the Brigand) than making up for past mistakes or giving the community one of the few mechs that have been consistently requested for years to no avail despite not requiring any additional tech introductions (unlike IS omnis for example).


There's already a UM-IIC model? I'd like to see that.

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 08:26 AM

Stinger/Wasp>Urbanmech>Urbanmech IIC>unskilledNoobhound>fortoddlerspiranha>craptor

#19 Alvar Von Kenesthor

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 09:36 AM

View PostThe6thMessenger, on 19 December 2018 - 01:53 AM, said:


There's already a UM-IIC model? I'd like to see that.


Very well, here they come:
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And just in case you're still not satisffied, here:
https://youtu.be/wzhJXXJWKPk

Edited by Alvar Von Kenesthor, 19 December 2018 - 09:37 AM.


#20 Battlemaster56

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 10:47 AM

The special do look kool, but I still think they can work off making a similar model as the special while making it differnet enough to tell the difference.





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