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#21 Kubernetes

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Posted 24 December 2018 - 09:12 PM

Nothing, I'm just amused by your sad attempts to explain away your performance. Again, your current season stats are similar to your historical stats, so if all these extraordinary events happened this month, what happened in all the months previous? But hey, at least this time you're not putting up photoshopped screenshots (you never explained that one, btw).

#22 Y E O N N E

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Posted 24 December 2018 - 09:20 PM

Better question: why is Koniving's, and only Koniving's, client so utterly jacked up?

#23 Kubernetes

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Posted 24 December 2018 - 09:22 PM

I have no idea. I've never seen mechs fly in the air like that, but hey, maybe I was wrong about him no longer photoshopping screenshots.

Edited by Kubernetes, 24 December 2018 - 09:23 PM.


#24 Y E O N N E

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Posted 24 December 2018 - 09:39 PM

View PostKubernetes, on 24 December 2018 - 09:22 PM, said:

I have no idea. I've never seen mechs fly in the air like that, but hey, maybe I was wrong about him no longer photoshopping screenshots.


Or he was playing with PGI in one of those sessions where they play with the settings. 10 matches where he explodes in spawn? Please, I've never even had that happen once in almost 5 years of playing.

#25 Koniving

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Posted 24 December 2018 - 09:40 PM

View PostKubernetes, on 24 December 2018 - 09:22 PM, said:

I have no idea. I've never seen mechs fly in the air like that, but hey, maybe I was wrong about him no longer photoshopping screenshots.

Its called getting disconnected. (They're in a dropship and weren't dropped on the internet hiccup).

But if you're using Jarl's list to bug me, mind if I ask where you got the stats you have?
Because according to Jarl's list (which is completely wrong), I've done only 10 matches with a kdr of 0.67, and for some reason it has no list of how many kills I have done.
28 (Nov18) 19726 8% 10 0.67 10% 0.67 141 141.0 -23% 0% 0% 0% 0%
o.O;

Edited by Koniving, 24 December 2018 - 09:44 PM.


#26 Prototelis

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Posted 24 December 2018 - 10:05 PM

Maybe if you gave good advice people wouldn't attack you for stroking it in every thread.

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Posted 24 December 2018 - 10:40 PM

View PostKoniving, on 24 December 2018 - 09:40 PM, said:

Its called getting disconnected. (They're in a dropship and weren't dropped on the internet hiccup).

But if you're using Jarl's list to bug me, mind if I ask where you got the stats you have?
Because according to Jarl's list (which is completely wrong), I've done only 10 matches with a kdr of 0.67, and for some reason it has no list of how many kills I have done.
28 (Nov18) 19726 8% 10 0.67 10% 0.67 141 141.0 -23% 0% 0% 0% 0%
o.O;


Jarls only shows completed seasons, so your current season stats show on the leaderboard (how do you not know this?). You've now played 43 matches this month, and congrats you're up to 26 kills.

(btw you've still not addressed your past photoshopping practices)

Edited by Kubernetes, 24 December 2018 - 10:42 PM.


#28 JediPanther

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Posted 24 December 2018 - 10:46 PM

Oh a stat warrior derailment. This gona be good. Someone explain what all the numbers mean since I have a math disability. My bet's on koniving for the win. Or use pictures as I tend to lean from visuals and videos far more than pages of numbers. *lets out Grid Iron's cheerleader Standing figurine*

#29 FRAGTAST1C

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Posted 24 December 2018 - 11:02 PM

The thing is, triple UAC2s require face time but the DPS is so high that it can shred armour. PPCs and Gauss Rifles are nice in terms of burst damage but the cooldown is ....

Trying to get the balance between the two is what I'm struggling with. Testing the Triple UAC2 or triple UAC5s on Dao Breaker just to get the hang of the mechanics here and both are satisfying but at the same time, feel lacklustre.

#30 ShiverMeRivets

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Posted 24 December 2018 - 11:46 PM

View PostYeonne Greene, on 24 December 2018 - 09:58 AM, said:

Are you hanging back >600 meters? Are you the last survivor almost every match? Are you contributing very little tactical or strategic value to your team? Congratulations, you are a "sniper"!

Lol
It is funny because it is true.

#31 Khobai

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 12:00 AM

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What Constitutes A Sniper Build?


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#32 Adette

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 12:11 AM

View PostJediPanther, on 24 December 2018 - 10:46 PM, said:

Oh a stat warrior derailment. This gona be good. Someone explain what all the numbers mean since I have a math disability. My bet's on koniving for the win. Or use pictures as I tend to lean from visuals and videos far more than pages of numbers. *lets out Grid Iron's cheerleader Standing figurine*


If I was a betting I would not put money on koniving "for the win"

Edited by Adette, 25 December 2018 - 12:11 AM.


#33 Vxheous

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 12:15 AM

View PostJediPanther, on 24 December 2018 - 10:46 PM, said:

Oh a stat warrior derailment. This gona be good. Someone explain what all the numbers mean since I have a math disability. My bet's on koniving for the win. Or use pictures as I tend to lean from visuals and videos far more than pages of numbers. *lets out Grid Iron's cheerleader Standing figurine*

View PostAdette, on 25 December 2018 - 12:11 AM, said:


If I was a betting I would not put money on koniving "for the win"


Since JediPanther is a visual learner:
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View PostPrototelis, on 24 December 2018 - 10:05 PM, said:

Maybe if you gave good advice people wouldn't attack you for stroking it in every thread.

Edited by Vxheous, 25 December 2018 - 01:29 AM.


#34 justcallme A S H

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 01:31 AM

#neverforget

I mean who goes so far as to edits their stats in Photoshop? Lol. From then on, opinion is and always will be - invalid.

And lol @ what a 'sniper' is on that first page definition... LIKE, WHAT?

#35 FRAGTAST1C

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 03:33 AM

Thank you so much, guys. This is absolutely helpful to me. Let's make sure that the people not only leave the game but also the forums.

#36 Sergeant Destroy

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 04:06 AM

Use advanced zoom all the time to get those sweet headshots™.

#37 Vxheous

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 04:14 AM

View PostFRAGTAST1C, on 24 December 2018 - 11:02 PM, said:

The thing is, triple UAC2s require face time but the DPS is so high that it can shred armour. PPCs and Gauss Rifles are nice in terms of burst damage but the cooldown is ....

Trying to get the balance between the two is what I'm struggling with. Testing the Triple UAC2 or triple UAC5s on Dao Breaker just to get the hang of the mechanics here and both are satisfying but at the same time, feel lacklustre.

View PostFRAGTAST1C, on 25 December 2018 - 03:33 AM, said:

Thank you so much, guys. This is absolutely helpful to me. Let's make sure that the people not only leave the game but also the forums.


Alright, I'll throw you a bone. At long range, you have to choose dps or high burst long cooldown, there's no real balance of both, or it would be OP. If you're looking for dps, max stack regular or UAC2s or mix both. Strong meta examples being 4x UAC2 + 2x CAC2 Night Gyr, 5 AC2 Jagermech, 5 UAC2 Vapor Eagle, 6 UAC2 Mauler or Annihilator, or 8CAC2 Ultraviolet. These builds all let you sit at 900m+ and blast away at .6s (or less) per salvo (x2 for UACs), even though each salvo is only 10-16 damage depending on mech. Alternately, you could run a Warhawk prime with 4x CERPPC, and fire them in groups of two for 20+10 splash per shot, or run 2x Gauss 2x CERPPC and again, fire in groups of 2 for 30 gauss and 20+10 CERPPC. You can also do 2CERLL + 2 Gauss combos for long range, or boat mass ERLL or CERLLs on mechs like the Grasshopper, Battlemaster, Hellbringer, Marauder IIc.

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 05:17 AM

View PostVxheous, on 25 December 2018 - 04:14 AM, said:

boat mass ERLL or CERLLs on mechs like the Grasshopper, Battlemaster, Hellbringer, Marauder IIc.


When you say "boat" ERLL, the max I can dare to go for is 4 CERLLs for Hellbringer due to the heat. Should I push my luck some more you think, by shaving the armour off the arms and some from the legs and adding 1 more DHS and a CERLL?

#39 Vxheous

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 05:26 AM

View PostFRAGTAST1C, on 25 December 2018 - 05:17 AM, said:


When you say "boat" ERLL, the max I can dare to go for is 4 CERLLs for Hellbringer due to the heat. Should I push my luck some more you think, by shaving the armour off the arms and some from the legs and adding 1 more DHS and a CERLL?


No, 4 CERLL fired in 2+2 is what the Hellbringer runs. When I say 5 ERLL, I mean the Grasshopper, firing them in 3+2 combo. CERLL is 10.5 damage x4 = 42 damage, while the Grasshopper is IS ERLL 9 damage x5 for 45, but slightly lower range. It used to be that CERLL was 11 damage so 4 CERLL = 44 vs 5 IS ERLL = 45, but clan lasers all got their damage reduced slightly a few patches ago due to PGI's stance on excessive laser alphas.

Both Battlemaster 1G and Marauder IIc's can boat 6 ERLL, with the Battlemaster at 54 damage firing them 3+3, and the Marauder IIc at 63 damage firing them at 2+2+2 (facetime being a bigger problem, but it can fire 3+3 and eat the ghost heat if required).

I forgot to mention that the Novacat can boat CERLL as well, and one of them has a quirk that allows you to fire 3 CERLL without ghost heat penalty. Downside is the lasers are arm mounted and the mech won't hill peek as nice as a Hellbringer, but it's worth a mention.

Edited by Vxheous, 25 December 2018 - 05:45 AM.


#40 Captain Caveman DE

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 08:28 AM

best sniper imo?

the one that is on the red side of "teams". sure, they can work - but do so ALWAYS on the cost of the other 11. so I rather not have him on my side, to be blunt.





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