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[Racerxintegra2k]

omfg the LRMs ... i played 3 matches today and it was all i could stomach. Half my team was ONLY lrms way in the back shouting to hold locks while we were getting wrecked and they stood back there lobbing away. 4xlrm20's in a maddog .. 4x15's in sunspiders no back up weapons. *throws up* Nice patch Christ.

[Brizna]

Why don't you use AMS yourself??

[Novakaine]

Seriously stop.
They didn't get a buff it was a patented nerf.

[ZaRyume Mukeiyu]

I think he's complaining about the fact that he got stuck with at least 4 guys hanging in the back the entire match doing little damage because of said indirect fire nerfs.

[K O Z A K]

Novakaine, on 27 March 2019 - 12:34 PM, said:

Seriously stop.
They didn't get a buff it was a patented nerf.

Seriously stop.

IDF lrms got nerfed, DF lrms got buffed

overall IDF is still the same bs mechanic it was, you can still hide behind hills and shoot enemies that are fighting your teammates, it just isn't quite as effective now, and ECM and AMS actually do stuff. But oh joy now you have the option to go direct and do more

sorry to all the "support, hold locks" guys your damage buttons got hurt a little, you can still do it same as before, just now if people use the specific counters (by making their mechs less effective against direct fire mechs) you actually have to look at what you're doing and look for other targets, not just point circle in general direction of any red box and erase mechs boasting high damage at the end of the drop

team based drops with narc/lrm combos are as ridiculous as they ever were

[Racerxintegra2k]

ZaRyume Mukeiyu, on 27 March 2019 - 12:44 PM, said:

I think he's complaining about the fact that he got stuck with at least 4 guys hanging in the back the entire match doing little damage because of said indirect fire nerfs.

That's exactly what i was saying. Every match at least a lance of people doing massive IDF lrms and nothing else. How do you do 179 dmg with 4x LRM 20's !@#$@!

[HammerMaster]

Racerxintegra2k, on 27 March 2019 - 01:03 PM, said:

That's exactly what i was saying. Every match at least a lance of people doing massive IDF lrms and nothing else. How do you do 179 dmg with 4x LRM 20's !@#$@!

Please please please. Don't blame Chris or the LRM.
The problem as always..IS THE PLAYERS.
It is gonna take time for these Lock Farming Parasites to fall in line.
But I must ask.
Did you tell them the new way things need to be working?
That they would have don't exponentially better had they moved up with you?
Stop being part of the whine and part of the Cadre of people who are in the know and make these parasites pull their weight.
Chances are they will never come to this forum and see your rage in any case.

[Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie]

Racerxintegra2k, on 27 March 2019 - 01:03 PM, said:

That's exactly what i was saying. Every match at least a lance of people doing massive IDF lrms and nothing else. How do you do 179 dmg with 4x LRM 20's !@#$@!

either by being cored out after the first volley or....
damned...
"why does nobody get me locks? damn egomaniacs in the front. I wanna support, but they don't let me..."
...
..
.

[Athom83]

Hazeclaw, on 27 March 2019 - 12:57 PM, said:

team based drops with narc/lrm combos are as ridiculous as they ever were

IKR? I've seen more NARCs on more mechs in the past week than I've seen in the past year. Before you only saw the occasional NARC Raven during an event or something, but I've seen NARC Ravens, NARC Wolverines, Hellbringers and Summoners bringing a NARC, and even the occasional LRM assault that actually uses a redundant missile hardpoint FOR A NARC! Like, you just flat out didn't see that kind of stuff before.

[Merlin Kell]

please delete.

Edited by Merlin Kell, 27 March 2019 - 01:13 PM.

[Racerxintegra2k]

HammerMaster, on 27 March 2019 - 01:07 PM, said:

Please please please. Don't blame Chris or the LRM.
The problem as always..IS THE PLAYERS.
It is gonna take time for these Lock Farming Parasites to fall in line.
But I must ask.
Did you tell them the new way things need to be working?
That they would have don't exponentially better had they moved up with you?
Stop being part of the whine and part of the Cadre of people who are in the know and make these parasites pull their weight.
Chances are they will never come to this forum and see your rage in any case.

I said it pre-patch and post patch ... the players that were LRM'ing IDF before are still going to do that. This mechanic change wont change that fact.

To answer your question i actively train new members in my unit and regularly offer advice (to pugs) and call drops when there isn't a better caller on the team. I believe me trying to help constantly is why i get salty/toxic from time to time a lot of people just cant handle friendly advice.

Edited by Racerxintegra2k, 27 March 2019 - 01:14 PM.

[JRcam4643]

Well it sounds like you didn't hold locks.

[Weeny Machine]

Novakaine, on 27 March 2019 - 12:34 PM, said:

Seriously stop.
They didn't get a buff it was a patented nerf.

1. IDF LRMs got spread...this doesn't matter much because usually a huge volume of missile get fired anway
2. DF LRMs got buffed which make them more dangerous in this case. I hardly play LRM mechs but usually I get locks myself...so in my book it is a buff

[Mystere]

Brizna, on 27 March 2019 - 12:30 PM, said:

Why don't you use AMS yourself??

"Muh weapons! I need muh weapons!"

Novakaine, on 27 March 2019 - 12:34 PM, said:

Seriously stop.
They didn't get a buff it was a patented nerf.

Is there a hammer-and-sickle version of this? I'd much prefer that instead.

[Mystere]

Athom83, on 27 March 2019 - 01:12 PM, said:

IKR? I've seen more NARCs on more mechs in the past week than I've seen in the past year. Before you only saw the occasional NARC Raven during an event or something, but I've seen NARC Ravens, NARC Wolverines, Hellbringers and Summoners bringing a NARC, and even the occasional LRM assault that actually uses a redundant missile hardpoint FOR A NARC! Like, you just flat out didn't see that kind of stuff before.

Is it really completely beyond imagination that some people and groups are still testing the changes? <smh>

[Mystere]

Bush Hopper, on 27 March 2019 - 01:18 PM, said:

1. IDF LRMs got spread...this doesn't matter much because usually a huge volume of missile get fired anway

Given the same volume of fire:

more spread --> less damage --> less effectiveness

Thus, it does matter.

Bush Hopper, on 27 March 2019 - 01:18 PM, said:

2. DF LRMs got buffed which make them more dangerous in this case. I hardly play LRM mechs but usually I get locks myself...so in my book it is a buff

They may be more dangerous. However, they still pale in comparison to other direct fire weapons.

Here is a suggestion:

• DF + 1 of TAG/NARC/UAV = 50% PPFLD damage
  
• DF + 2 of TAG/NARC/UAV = 75% PPFLD damage
  
• DF + TAG + NARC + UAV = 100% PPFLD damage

Any takers?

Edited by Mystere, 27 March 2019 - 01:41 PM.

[Alienized]

my old school lore loadouts really like the new lrm patch.
lore-like loadouts do work alot better and bringin you own tag is a massive thing. combine lrm's with lasers and mg is kinda awesome now lol.
all dem troll builds

[death390]

Alienized, on 27 March 2019 - 02:42 PM, said:

my old school lore loadouts really like the new lrm patch.
lore-like loadouts do work alot better and bringin you own tag is a massive thing. combine lrm's with lasers and mg is kinda awesome now lol.
all dem troll builds

bringing your own tag is now useless, all it does is make the person tag'd get locked as if seen for a DF lock. that means if YOU can tag them then you are already able to get a DF lock. it can help other LRM boats though.

that being said the DF changes are also a nerf, the new arc makes it so that low horizontal cover is MORE effective at blocking LRMs making peaking style gameplay more viable.

[BrunoSSace]

Ams is really strong atm. If missile are annoying you bring Ams. If they really annoying you, bring dual Ams. If you want to shut down all missile on the field, bring 3 or more.
Or just use ecm or stealth armor. LRM are not the problem, they can be shut down so easy.

[Kubernetes]

I enjoy typing "LRMS LOSE AGAIN" when my team wipes out an LRM-heavy enemy team. I've been typing it a lot recently. When are people going to figure out that it's a big driver for losses?