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#41 HammerMaster

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Posted 31 March 2019 - 12:44 PM

View PostPrototelis, on 31 March 2019 - 12:40 PM, said:

This only happens to you because you're in zimbabwe when it happens or when you're with the team the only way you choose communicate is by threatening to walk off of the map in text chat or are otherwise berating everyone.

Deja Vu.

#42 Prototelis

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Posted 31 March 2019 - 12:51 PM

Its always going to be a familiar experience to you until you learn how teamplay works outside of GQ.

I don't get how you can play with a unit that runs a decent comp team and not understand teamplay.

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Posted 31 March 2019 - 12:54 PM

View PostPrototelis, on 31 March 2019 - 12:51 PM, said:

Its always going to be a familiar experience to you until you learn how teamplay works outside of GQ.

I don't get how you can play with a unit that runs a decent comp team and not understand teamplay.

Thanks for the kudos for them.
But just so ya know.
They make calls.
They get followed.
Qp is either dead silent or a cry/blame fest.
Apples to orange and that.
Got any more digs at me?

Edited by HammerMaster, 31 March 2019 - 12:57 PM.


#44 Prototelis

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Posted 31 March 2019 - 12:56 PM

Minimap always active. No reason for you to be out by yourself when you know your build is vulnerable when isolated.

#45 HammerMaster

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Posted 31 March 2019 - 12:58 PM

View PostPrototelis, on 31 March 2019 - 12:56 PM, said:

Minimap always active. No reason for you to be out by yourself when you know your build is vulnerable when isolated.

Please name a build that is not vulnerable when isolated?

#46 FupDup

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Posted 31 March 2019 - 01:00 PM

View PostHammerMaster, on 31 March 2019 - 12:58 PM, said:

Please name a build that is not vulnerable when isolated?

Some are much more vulnerable than others.

#47 HammerMaster

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Posted 31 March 2019 - 01:07 PM

View PostFupDup, on 31 March 2019 - 01:00 PM, said:

Some are much more vulnerable than others.

Name it.

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Posted 31 March 2019 - 01:07 PM

View PostHammerMaster, on 31 March 2019 - 12:58 PM, said:

Please name a build that is not vulnerable when isolated?


Any mech with the mobility to escape a bad situation quickly.

Name one reason why moving away from the team in a mech that lacks the mobility to escape or return to the team shouldn't end poorly for you?

**** if you're going to skillboat in zimbabwe at least do it in something fast like an assassin. No competent light pilot is going to take a fight with an assassin, any light that does is probably a free kill.

#49 HammerMaster

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Posted 31 March 2019 - 01:09 PM

View PostPrototelis, on 31 March 2019 - 01:07 PM, said:



Name one reason


Spite.

Edited by HammerMaster, 31 March 2019 - 01:09 PM.


#50 K O Z A K

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Posted 31 March 2019 - 01:09 PM

View PostPrototelis, on 31 March 2019 - 12:40 PM, said:

This only happens to you because you're in zimbabwe when it happens or when you're with the team the only way you choose communicate is by threatening to walk off of the map in text chat or are otherwise berating everyone.


yeah ok, have you ever seen me berating anyone in chat?

or also like you know, when you go into your base on incursion/siege with a streak mech thinking you have just the right tool for the job to stop the light slowly taking the base apart, just to find out your right tool for the job actually totally fails at the ONLY thing it's supposed to be good at

#51 Prototelis

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Posted 31 March 2019 - 01:27 PM

View PostHazeclaw, on 31 March 2019 - 01:09 PM, said:


yeah ok, have you ever seen me berating anyone in chat?


How often do you berate people after you have made a bad decision? I'm on comms the whole game calling people out for being stupid, but I'm not about to berate everyone on the team because I got caught out in zimbabwe. I'm not going to threaten to walk off of the map because I got hammered solo rotating in a heavy in zimbabwe.


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or also like you know, when you go into your base on incursion/siege with a streak mech thinking you have just the right tool for the job to stop the light slowly taking the base apart, just to find out your right tool for the job actually totally fails at the ONLY thing it's supposed to be good at


How often does this actually happen to you? I doubt its a frequent occurrence because you understand the vulnerabilities of any given build.

View PostHammerMaster, on 31 March 2019 - 01:09 PM, said:

Spite.


So let me get this straight, you rotate away from your team and get geeked to spite your own team? You're getting what you deserve.

Edited by Prototelis, 31 March 2019 - 01:28 PM.


#52 HammerMaster

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Posted 31 March 2019 - 01:44 PM

View PostPrototelis, on 31 March 2019 - 01:27 PM, said:




So let me get this straight, you rotate away from your team and get geeked to spite your own team? You're getting what you deserve.

No calls?
I'll do my own thing.
Bad calls or people I don't like.
I'll do my own thing.
Same lemming "this is how it's done" or crimson tunnel (wow general)
Ya. Gone. Do my own thing.
Again apples and oranges for qp vs gp.
Honestly qp is such a random. It can't get worse by me being alone finding another mech alone.
I don't give a *.
I really do try to give a match a chance but qp devolves. It's me for myself.

#53 FupDup

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Posted 31 March 2019 - 02:12 PM

View PostHammerMaster, on 31 March 2019 - 01:44 PM, said:

No calls?
I'll do my own thing.
Bad calls or people I don't like.
I'll do my own thing.
Same lemming "this is how it's done" or crimson tunnel (wow general)
Ya. Gone. Do my own thing.
Again apples and oranges for qp vs gp.
Honestly qp is such a random. It can't get worse by me being alone finding another mech alone.
I don't give a *.
I really do try to give a match a chance but qp devolves. It's me for myself.

In MWO it's almost always better to do a bad thing as a team than to do a theoretically good thing alone. At worst you have a few moments to use fellow pugs as meatshields so you can do just a little more damage.

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Posted 31 March 2019 - 02:13 PM

View PostFupDup, on 31 March 2019 - 02:12 PM, said:

In MWO it's almost always better to do a bad thing as a team than to do a theoretically good thing alone. At worst you have a few moments to use fellow pugs as meatshields so you can do just a little more damage.

While true.
I stand by my statement.
Too many times the team does nothing.
See above.

Edited by HammerMaster, 31 March 2019 - 02:14 PM.


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Posted 31 March 2019 - 04:32 PM

View PostPrototelis, on 31 March 2019 - 01:27 PM, said:

How often do you berate people after you have made a bad decision? I'm on comms the whole game calling people out for being stupid, but I'm not about to berate everyone on the team because I got caught out in zimbabwe. I'm not going to threaten to walk off of the map because I got hammered solo rotating in a heavy in zimbabwe.


I generally don't, because I know I made a bad decision...and I don't ever run out of bounds.....not sure where you're going with this

look, bottom line is that streaks which are only good at killing lights, and fast mediums have become way too risky due to proliferation of stealth armour and tag not breaking through in range where it matters. I think you should be allowed to lock stealth with tag

as far as I'm concerned mpl and gauss are the premier anti light weapon for me now, and streaks are basically too risky for anti light and are only good for farming damage from heavys/assaults

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Posted 31 March 2019 - 05:02 PM

View PostHazeclaw, on 31 March 2019 - 04:32 PM, said:


I generally don't, because I know I made a bad decision...and I don't ever run out of bounds.....not sure where you're going with this

look, bottom line is that streaks which are only good at killing lights, and fast mediums have become way too risky due to proliferation of stealth armour and tag not breaking through in range where it matters. I think you should be allowed to lock stealth with tag

as far as I'm concerned mpl and gauss are the premier anti light weapon for me now, and streaks are basically too risky for anti light and are only good for farming damage from heavys/assaults


Be better if they just rebalanced streaks by nerfing them vs lights and buffing them vs bigger mechs. More viable targets that way.

Edited by dario03, 31 March 2019 - 05:03 PM.


#57 S t P a u l y

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Posted 31 March 2019 - 05:23 PM

Hammermaster.
Bizarre opinion #1
He types like this.
His grasp of English isn't quite enough.
to engage in debates with Englishmen.
Bizarre opinion #2
Thanks.

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Posted 31 March 2019 - 05:25 PM

View PostS t P a u l y, on 31 March 2019 - 05:23 PM, said:

Hammermaster.
Bizarre opinion #1
He types like this.
His grasp of English isn't quite enough.
to engage in debates with Englishmen.
Bizarre opinion #2
Thanks.

I
was
wondering
whats
up
with
that

#59 HammerMaster

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Posted 31 March 2019 - 05:46 PM

View PostS t P a u l y, on 31 March 2019 - 05:23 PM, said:

Hammermaster.
Bizarre opinion #1
He types like this.
His grasp of English isn't quite enough.
to engage in debates with Englishmen.
Bizarre opinion #2
Thanks.


View PostHazeclaw, on 31 March 2019 - 05:25 PM, said:

I
was
wondering
whats
up
with
that


Emphasis.
Not necessarily grammar.
Stream of consciousness sometimes.
You grading my paper? Ya no. That's what I thought.

Edited by HammerMaster, 31 March 2019 - 05:47 PM.


#60 Mystere

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Posted 31 March 2019 - 07:34 PM

View PostFupDup, on 31 March 2019 - 02:12 PM, said:

In MWO it's almost always better to do a bad thing as a team than to do a theoretically good thing alone. At worst you have a few moments to use fellow pugs as meatshields so you can do just a little more damage.


Ahem!

Deliberately using your teammates as meat shields isn't exactly what I would call teamwork. Posted Image





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