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[InnerSphereNews]

MECH RELEASE: Champion for C-Bills - Vapor Eagle for MC

CHAMPION FOR C-BILLS

CHAMPION CHP-1N 5,566,857 C-Bills

CHAMPION CHP-2N 4,932,407 C-Bills

CHAMPION CHP-3N 9,016,813 C-Bills

CHAMPION CHP-1N2 5,566,857 C-Bills

CHAMPION CHP-1NB 5,447,867 C-Bills

Champion Select Customization Sale

Bolt-ons, Patterns 50% off

until April 7th 5 PM PDT (April 8th, 00:00 UTC)

VAPOR EAGLE FOR MC

VAPOR EAGLE VGL-1 3540 MC

VAPOR EAGLE VGL-2 3565 MC

VAPOR EAGLE VGL-3 3780 MC

VAPOR EAGLE VGL-4 3620 MC

VAPOR EAGLE VGL-A 3660 MC

VAPOR EAGLE RIVAL 4125 MC

[BrunoSSace]

Champion time, now witch one?

[Gas Guzzler]

BrunoSSace, on 02 April 2019 - 11:58 AM, said:

Champion time, now witch one?

1NB looks like a great PPFLD platform with that 20% velocity quirk. I bought the standard pack and am running 2 PPC 1 UAC5 1 AC5 on one of the other variants, but that one would be better.

1N2 looks like it can do Heavy Gauss and 5 ML.

[VonBruinwald]

Was hoping to get some one-shot loyalty camos cheap... any idea when they'll be on sale... next FW event maybe?

As for builds for you guys new to the CHP. A class 20 AC (any type) and 4ERML with rockets to spare is always fun at 81kph.

[Jay Leon Hart]

InnerSphereNews, on 02 April 2019 - 10:52 AM, said:

VAPOR EAGLE FOR MC

VAPOR EAGLE VGL-1 3540 MC

VAPOR EAGLE VGL-2 3565 MC

VAPOR EAGLE VGL-3 3780 MC

VAPOR EAGLE VGL-4 3620 MC

VAPOR EAGLE VGL-A 3660 MC

VAPOR EAGLE RIVAL 4125 MC

Soon...

Edited by Jay Leon Hart, 02 April 2019 - 01:32 PM.

[-Pik-]

loyality mechs/omnipods c-bills?

[RickySpanish]

For anyone interested, I've found tue VGL 1 gauss vomit and VGL 2 uac2 dakka builds to be my best performers for the Vapor Eagle. Grimm Mechs obviously has the best guides for the chassis.

[Racerxintegra2k]

InnerSphereNews, on 02 April 2019 - 10:52 AM, said:

VAPOR EAGLE FOR MC

VAPOR EAGLE VGL-1 3540 MC

VAPOR EAGLE VGL-2 3565 MC

VAPOR EAGLE VGL-3 3780 MC

VAPOR EAGLE VGL-4 3620 MC

VAPOR EAGLE VGL-A 3660 MC

VAPOR EAGLE RIVAL 4125 MC

The MC cost of one Vapor eagle is almost the cost of a basic pack for 3 of them ....

Edited by Racerxintegra2k, 02 April 2019 - 03:32 PM.

[FupDup]

Racerxintegra2k, on 02 April 2019 - 03:32 PM, said:

The MC cost of one Vapor eagle is almost the cost of a basic pack for 3 of them ....

Rule of thumb is to never buy any non-hero mech for MC. C-Bill Veagles will be next month.

[Monkey Lover]

Jay Leon Hart, on 02 April 2019 - 01:32 PM, said:

[/center]Soon...

Theyre going to nerf them as soon as they hit cbills. Theyre way to tanky.

[GamerPro4000]

BrunoSSace, on 02 April 2019 - 11:58 AM, said:

Champion time, now witch one?

I like the 3n. 6 mediums with 1 ac20 or 1 uac20 with 4 tons of ammo. LF engine that goes 75 kph.

[Gladiolix]

Monkey Lover, on 02 April 2019 - 05:05 PM, said:

Theyre going to nerf them as soon as they hit cbills. Theyre way to tanky.

They have zero durability quirks so no, they're not tanky, you can't tank with them. They just spread the damage very good with JJ's. Also for their tonnage they're big.

Edited by Gladiolix, 03 April 2019 - 01:46 AM.

[Acersecomic]

Oohohoho, I've been waiting for these two <3
Champion, HERE I COME! AC/20 and 5MLs

Next month, VaporEagle!!!

[Ruccus]

BrunoSSace, on 02 April 2019 - 11:58 AM, said:

Champion time, now witch one?

If you don't intend to use real money on them then whichever interests you most; if you might buy the Champion with real money then I'd suggest the CHP-1N2 to try it out so if you liked the mech you'd then spend $20 to get the 1N, 2N, and 3N, and qualify for the end of year Inner Sphere mech reward.

Edited by Ruccus, 03 April 2019 - 12:44 PM.

[WJP]

How to build CHAMPION CHP-1N ?

[FupDup]

WJP, on 03 April 2019 - 03:43 PM, said:

How to build CHAMPION CHP-1N ?

I would personally do 4 [ER]ML and then two ballistic weapons of choice (i.e. something like 4 ERML + 2 RAC/2). You could also try using 4 mediums plus some MRMs but that would put all your eggs in one basket so to say (most of the guns would be in the LT).

You could also just do one big ballistic but at that point you might as well use the CHP-1N2.

[Ruccus]

WJP, on 03 April 2019 - 03:43 PM, said:

How to build CHAMPION CHP-1N ?

I'd suggest to first decide on your primary weaponry then fill out your energy weapons and engine size based on what tonnage you've got left.

I've got the Champion collector's pack and if I remember correctly I've got the CHP-1N(S) equipped with Dual LB10Xes and the CHP-1N has Dual LRM15s with Artemis.

Dual MRM30s works too, but then you'd either have to go with a standard engine to use the energy hardpoints in the torso or make do with two CT energy weapons and a light fusion engine. I prefer to use my CHP-2N as my MRM Champion (with an MRM40), and occasionally swap it out for a triple RAC2 build.

[-Ramrod-]

Too bad the Vapor Eagle is garbage...like almost every mech has been over the past year...except the Blood Asp and Champion. It's why I stopped with the Warhammer IIC. Been burned too many times by bad mech after bad mech after bad mech. They somehow have this idea in there head that Clans not only dominate in ranged fights but also brawling. The problem with the Vapor Eagle is that there are mechs similar in size that can do anything it can do but only better or at least on par. It's maneuverability is atrocious. I was really hoping this thing would be the Clan version of the Phoenix Hawk. Make it more maneuverable than other mechs in its weight class. Instead it handles like the Mayflower. A stormcrow is much more mobile, better hitboxes and enough tonnage for weapons to be as versatile. The Huntsman can do anything the Vapor Eagle can but only better. If you speed the Vapor Eagle up it loses too much tonnage for weaponry that is necessary to hold its own because its so freakin gigantic and handles like an oil tanker. And at that point you might as well use a Stormcrow. If you slow it down you might as well use a Huntsman. Better hitboxes and similar hardpoints. And because the mech is so huge it makes it a poor scout and/or skirmisher. It lacks the armor needed to really be sustainable in a long drawn out fire fight. I know many others may disagree but I just think its a Jack of All Trades and master of none.

Edited by -Ramrod-, 03 April 2019 - 07:18 PM.

[Ruccus]

-Ramrod-, on 03 April 2019 - 07:05 PM, said:

Too bad the Vapor Eagle is garbage...like almost every mech has been over the past year...except the Blood Asp and Champion.

I have to disagree with a couple points. I really like the Champion and I think the Blood Asp is pretty good, but the Vapor Eagle is a very good chassis and my personal opinion of mechs over the last year the Corsair, Vulcan, and Fafnir are also good to excellent. I didn't get the Flea but players seem to be doing well in that mech too.

I do acknowledge that the Vapor Eagle feels slower than a comparable 50-55 ton mech at the same speed but it's an illusion; the Vapor Eagle has long, spindly legs so it sits taller than its counterparts so you're higher off the ground at the same speed which makes it feel slower. The same thing happens with the Vulcan but I got used to it when it dropped so I was comfortable with tall medium mechs when the Vapor Eagle dropped.

[Monkey Lover]

Gladiolix, on 03 April 2019 - 01:46 AM, said:

They have zero durability quirks so no, they're not tanky, you can't tank with them. They just spread the damage very good with JJ's. Also for their tonnage they're big.

They will do what they always do and kill mobility or "fix the hit boxes". Trust me, once they're everywhere and the crying starts they will be nerfed.

Edited by Monkey Lover, 04 April 2019 - 12:12 PM.