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#41 LordNothing

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 04:24 PM

the only way anyone would tolerate better clanstuffs is if it was 2 stars vs 3 lances. asymmetrical balance is a thing but i think pgi has abandoned that kind of thinking for something that is easier for them to understand.

Edited by LordNothing, 03 May 2019 - 04:25 PM.


#42 Natural Predator

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 07:21 AM

View PostGrus, on 03 May 2019 - 11:34 AM, said:


Says this... but is stiner...






PGI cant/won't do them justice.


Won every single match last night as clan.

#43 Grus

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 10:48 AM

View PostRagnar Baron Leiningen, on 04 May 2019 - 07:21 AM, said:


Won every single match last night as clan.


Gj.

#44 Roland09

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 10:36 PM

View PostBrauer, on 30 April 2019 - 01:40 PM, said:


It is not known.

Clans can brawl (Linebackers, Orion IICs, Scorch, and a few others), it's just that in FW clan usually want to go mid-range or beyond.
Clanners get some pretty quick mechs (see Linebacker) and at the very least take an XL almost all of the time because they don't die after losing one ST, so they save on tonnage compared to many IS mechs.
Are you saying Clan pulse lasers get outranged by ERLL BLR-1Gs? Cause that's what it sounds like, and uhhhh of course short to mid-range pulse boats get outranged by a long-range specialist.... For super long range Claners have the Virago, which gets insane range for CERLL, and the clans have a several good ERPPC boats for long-range trades.

Okay, then show me a single Clan mech which was used in the last MWO world championship.
I bet you can't, can you?

That's absolute proof that Clans have been nerfed into the ground again, to the point where there are no Clan mechs which are competitively playable.

#45 cougurt

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Posted 05 May 2019 - 12:51 AM

View PostRoland09, on 04 May 2019 - 10:36 PM, said:

Okay, then show me a single Clan mech which was used in the last MWO world championship.
I bet you can't, can you?

That's absolute proof that Clans have been nerfed into the ground again, to the point where there are no Clan mechs which are competitively playable.

the last MWO world championship was restricted to stock 3025 tech IS mechs only, so that would be why you didn't see them. i can 100% guarantee you there would have been plenty of clan mechs in use otherwise, and you need only look to the recent MOR8 tournament for evidence of that.

#46 Roland09

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Posted 05 May 2019 - 02:23 AM

See, Clans are getting shafted again: They can't even bring their mechs to the championship! Discrimination! Racism!

#47 Roland09

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Posted 05 May 2019 - 09:10 PM

Wait, this thread was actually serious? O.o

I thought we were performing some kind of ritual: The Periodic Watering of the Hallowed Grounds of the Circlejerk of Equals with Clan Crocodile Tears?

#48 Novakaine

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Posted 05 May 2019 - 09:37 PM

What IS teams have to do every match vs clan tech.Posted Image

#49 Roland09

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Posted 05 May 2019 - 09:47 PM

Is that a Sarah's Jenner?

Edited by Roland09, 05 May 2019 - 09:48 PM.


#50 Ghost Paladin117

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Posted 06 May 2019 - 01:52 AM

I'm over here like, can I still get some more clan weapon types???
Haha guys it's getting ridiculous in here. I know we call this place three brown sea but no need to take the dumps off your lives.

#51 Grus

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Posted 06 May 2019 - 08:24 AM

View PostNovakaine, on 05 May 2019 - 09:37 PM, said:

What IS teams have to do every match vs clan tech.Posted Image


Yeah I've noticed that a IV4 can be taken out relatively easily by a pir-3... ;)

#52 Ruediger Steiner

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Posted 06 May 2019 - 10:49 AM

View PostBishop Six, on 06 May 2019 - 12:56 AM, said:

No, because the Clanner dudes of my timezone are in majority as holes. The last days im not making groups anymore, still in all chat they are shittalking about IS.

Because talking **** is something you would never do ...

View PostBishop Six, on 06 May 2019 - 12:56 AM, said:

Look at this thread. Im no making groups anymore and tbh i went to a realism military unit in another game recently.

So they can indeed circlejerk their stuff.

Good bye.

View PostBishop Six, on 06 May 2019 - 12:56 AM, said:

Btw we lost every match yesterday because of our OPness.

You lost every match cause of your bad teamplay. It´s not the weapons or the mechs, 90% of this game is teamplay, The one thing PGI can´t nerf or buff and the one thing you don´t get.
Your whining about Clans being op and playing unfair is ridiculous and annoying.

#53 Gilgamecc

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Posted 06 May 2019 - 11:30 AM

View PostBishop Six, on 01 May 2019 - 12:44 AM, said:


Ah ok.
I base rush Pugs? Not true.
Drop camp? Whats this?

How can i stop a strategy after lobby when we finally see that the enemy is pug?

And thats all me? Mh ok.

But thank you for your words.

They are proofing my statement a few weeks ago as i said Clanners are running away all the time and hiding everywhere. I got salt there too. "BS" they said. Here you go. When you "warn them" they all dont want to play a normas match, not even trying.

And its my fault when you guys are not able to group up?

"Ok Guys, today we make no group and jump into FP solo because maybe there are some super special solo Clanner on the other side who are gettting salty when we are grouping up."

"But Clan premades are totally fine, just lets get slaughtered."


@McGoat
Thank you.

So i "blubber" but OP is right and has a right to name & shame?

"IS fan boys in 5.....4.....3...."

Ok.

Well, i sow hate and salt, my fault to play a game like i think i have too. My fault to take beginners with me and we try our best to give them fun. Im such a bad person.

You guys make me sad, really. I think this is not good, this much seriousness and tbh, the hate against me is surprising me. Im sad and have to think about your accusations and Goats and mikes all all the other's behaviour and reactions.



We (well a mixed group of pilots with half PUGs) got salted out for using laserboats on Terra Therma a couple of nights ago, it was beautiful.

Lasers are now cheese as well as missiles or dakka.

#54 Bishop Six

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 12:22 AM

View PostWishmast3r, on 06 May 2019 - 10:49 AM, said:

Because talking **** is something you would never do ...


Good bye.


You lost every match cause of your bad teamplay. It´s not the weapons or the mechs, 90% of this game is teamplay, The one thing PGI can´t nerf or buff and the one thing you don´t get.
Your whining about Clans being op and playing unfair is ridiculous and annoying.


Du bist echt der Lächerlichste von allen.

Verdrehst alles wie es dir passt. Und provozieren will er mich auch noch.

Warte es nur ab, da werde ich mich revanchieren du kleine Ratte.

#55 S t P a u l y

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 01:54 AM

View PostGilgamecc, on 06 May 2019 - 11:30 AM, said:

Lasers are now cheese as well as missiles or dakka.


Bring all PPCs next time. Critical heat builds character.

Edited by S t P a u l y, 07 May 2019 - 01:55 AM.


#56 Ruediger Steiner

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 02:58 AM

View PostBishop Six, on 07 May 2019 - 12:22 AM, said:

Warte es nur ab, da werde ich mich revanchieren du kleine Ratte.


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#57 Ruediger Steiner

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 03:11 AM

View PostBishop Six, on 07 May 2019 - 12:22 AM, said:

Und provozieren will er mich auch noch.

Guess it worked.
What happened to you?
Was it your useless Stealth Commando?
Did the Assassin rush not work cause those bad bad Claners shot your legs off?
Or was it the drop zone camping that didn´t go well?
Was it, after CWCG switched to Clan Wolf, you had no one who carried you and you got your *** beaten?
What made you a grumpy and whiny old IS warrior?

Edited by Wishmast3r, 07 May 2019 - 03:13 AM.


#58 Theron Branson

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 04:43 AM

I just got back into playing MWO after taking a couple years off and dropped in faction play and WOW the LRM spam is crazy with the clans. Lost every match and that makes it not fun for anyone that plays IS. Also the spawn killing is out of control.

#59 Ruediger Steiner

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 07:23 AM

View PostTheron Branson, on 07 May 2019 - 04:43 AM, said:

I just got back into playing MWO after taking a couple years off and dropped in faction play and WOW the LRM spam is crazy with the clans. Lost every match and that makes it not fun for anyone that plays IS. Also the spawn killing is out of control.

Clan weapons and mechs got constantly nerfed, while the IS got a shitload of new weapons. The community is shrinking, old players, who know their stuff, are gone. So the new players, playing clan, use the only weapon that still works for them, nooblurms.
Our unit is playing both sides, currently IS. A lot of IS mechs have AMS, so use it. We had a game on Alpine yesterday, 3 mechs, 5 AMS and the 2 Supernovas on the other side could lurm all they wanted, not a single hit.

BTW, welcome back.

Edited by Wishmast3r, 07 May 2019 - 07:23 AM.


#60 Ollie Rifleman Brown

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 08:03 AM

Dear PGI,

give us FW 3025,
and the clans firepower and quirks they want.

thanks.





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