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Are You Ready For The Vaper Eagle C-Bill Release?


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#41 cougurt

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 04:55 PM

the piranha only got a fairly minor nerf overall, and the 2 and 3 got a significant buff from the micro/small laser HSL changes.

i expect the vapor eagle to get a small agility nerf at most, and maybe an ATM nerf at some point.

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 09:25 PM

View PostIlfi, on 07 May 2019 - 04:24 PM, said:

The time has come.

Taking bets on how long until it gets nerfed Piranha-style.


It won't unless someone complains about it at MechConn. It's really not that OP since its big arms and tall side torsos make it an easy target. Also and don't tell anyone this - aim left.

#43 Weeny Machine

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 10:04 PM

View PostWrathOfDeadguy, on 02 May 2019 - 03:47 PM, said:

Inb4 PGI buffs ATMs again.


Don't you like Lock-On Warrior Online?

#44 Curccu

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 10:49 PM

Tried my new ATM9x3 Vapo for 9 games and damage done 8157 and two of those games were Solaris City which is pretty challenging to play with ATMs... gotta say feels a bit OP.

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 01:51 AM

View PostBlaizerP, on 02 May 2019 - 04:27 PM, said:

Night Gyr agility adjustment coming in 3..2..1..


Dwl, this.

100 % they will massively nerf its mobility.

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 05:34 AM

View PostCurccu, on 07 May 2019 - 10:49 PM, said:

Tried my new ATM9x3 Vapo for 9 games and damage done 8157 and two of those games were Solaris City which is pretty challenging to play with ATMs... gotta say feels a bit OP.


If you think ATM 9 is OP, wait until you stick ATM 12 on it. In seriousness, ATMs are rather unpredictable, especially since AMS is rather big right now. IMO there are more consistently good builds available. Even so, a couple of good matches does not OP a 'Mech make, you'll notice that in QP at least, it's not an overwhelmingly popular chassis. I maintain that most c-bill adopters believing the hype will be disappointed with their purchase when the fragility of the 'Mech in close quarters becomes apparent. It's a great 'Mech definitely, but the hitboxes and wonky vertical placement of energy/ballistic hardpoint placement balance it out.

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 09:24 AM

The Vapor Eagle is perfectly balanced and needs nothing.

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 11:19 AM

View PostFeral Clown, on 03 May 2019 - 08:22 AM, said:

Actually I am hoping that they nerf pop tarting atms like they did to guass/ppc and ppc's in general. I really want this to happen out of pure spite.


Lock-on weapons are problematic imo. Streaks absolutely wreck light mechs, LRMs are just obnoxious and make for static and stale gameplay and ATMs...poptarting at mid- or even close range...oh well you wreck something easily

#49 Kubernetes

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 12:36 PM

God I'm so sick of seeing ATM VEagles. Every single game I see a bunch of these mofos flying around. Staaaahp it.


#50 LT. HARDCASE

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 01:17 PM

If anything PGI is just going to take away the Veagles JJ quirks due to the complaining about the ATM tarts.

There's literally no reason to nerf anything else about the mech, which would make the other variants suffer unnecessarily.

#51 LowSubmarino

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 02:28 PM

View PostLT. HARDCASE, on 08 May 2019 - 01:17 PM, said:

If anything PGI is just going to take away the Veagles JJ quirks due to the complaining about the ATM tarts.

There's literally no reason to nerf anything else about the mech, which would make the other variants suffer unnecessarily.


There was no reason to massively nerf hunchIIC's mobility and yet they did it anyway.

Nerfed it into an uplayable state. The hunchi turns about ten times slower than my night gyr. Its uplayable. If they do that to the vapor eagle theyll kill it too. Theres too much firepower out there right now. If youre a light or medium and your not agile then you dead. That said...the vapor eagle is very strong. The punishment it can dish out while being as fast and agile with good hit boxes and good hardpoints.....evil. Just evil.

#52 MechaBattler

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 03:00 PM

HunchbackIIC was regarded as hands down the best medium mech in the game. So it's not surprising it was handed a nerf.

#53 Mystere

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 03:18 PM

View PostMechaBattler, on 08 May 2019 - 03:00 PM, said:

HunchbackIIC was regarded as hands down the best medium mech in the game. So it's not surprising it was handed a nerf beaten to a pulp.


FTFY.

#54 FupDup

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 03:35 PM

View PostMechaBattler, on 08 May 2019 - 03:00 PM, said:

HunchbackIIC was regarded as hands down the best medium mech in the game. So it's not surprising it was handed a nerf.

The non-laser variants managed to not get nerfhammered. It was just the HBK-IIC-A.

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 04:36 PM

View Postcougurt, on 07 May 2019 - 04:55 PM, said:

the piranha only got a fairly minor nerf overall, and the 2 and 3 got a significant buff from the micro/small laser HSL changes.

i expect the vapor eagle to get a small agility nerf at most, and maybe an ATM nerf at some point.



It's not getting an agility nerf, ever.

That would be like taking away laser heat sinks from the Night Gyr or ballistic hardpoints for the Rifleman.

Ain't happening, it's the chassis defining feature.

#56 FupDup

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 04:50 PM

View PostGilgamecc, on 08 May 2019 - 04:36 PM, said:

...or ballistic hardpoints for the Rifleman.

Rifleman RFL-5D said:

Am I a joke to you?

Edited by FupDup, 08 May 2019 - 04:50 PM.


#57 The6thMessenger

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 05:25 PM

I tried it, ATM33 and all, and I gotta say, I ain't a fan. It's workable, but I don't feel that it's a go-getter that like many mediums cause it's kinda immobile and a large target. I found much success in piloting it when I'm surrounded with the team, than going on flanks and stuff.

#58 InvictusLee

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 05:39 PM

VAPENATION!

I'm actually really excited to see the classic Atlas brawler build on a fast mech.
I am very much looking forward to buying my vape eagle!

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 05:40 PM

View PostFupDup, on 08 May 2019 - 04:50 PM, said:




The RFL-5D with either twin heavy PPC or twin ER PPC and six smalls is actually a new favorite of mine, after I ignored the chassis for years.

Love it, the twin HPPC one does just as well as my usual LB10x build.

#60 InvictusLee

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 05:43 PM

View PostFupDup, on 08 May 2019 - 04:50 PM, said:

that was brilliant! Lol





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