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[R0gal D0rn]

Kiran Yagami, on 04 May 2019 - 08:30 AM, said:

Sync drops are undetectable. I've dropped with 4 of my own unit mates in the same match on the same team and I wasn't even in discord with them. We just all happened to press the button at similar times. This game is so small that sync dropping is very easy, but it's also probable that unit mates and friends drop together without trying for the same reason. What's your plan? Start banning everyone who gets on the same side as their buddies? Oh yea, that'll be good for the game.

Well you don' t read, obviously but I can repeat. My plan is not banning . I´m not in a policial quest but in an ethical search. My plan is writing a post to see how many players are honest, intelligent enough, and LOVE this Game to the extreme to Stop avoiding a confrontation against their own responsability in the decadence of the Game. If not , i lose nothing, but hearing some Charlatans trying to make noise about " Staaaatz" and the right to speak based on " Staatz", stats that they are the first in subvert and make irrelevant...

Edited by Tirant Lo Blanc, 04 May 2019 - 08:54 AM.

[John Bronco]

You are literally the only person in this dumpster thread talking about stats.

[R0gal D0rn]

BlaizerP, on 04 May 2019 - 08:51 AM, said:

You are literally the only person in this dumpster thread talking about stats.

Then read the posts before... Obviously you did it not

[Y E O N N E]

The premise of this thread is built on confirmation bias and a mistaken belief that just saying something is the truth makes it so.

Phenomenal.

[R0gal D0rn]

BlaizerP, on 04 May 2019 - 08:25 AM, said:

Irrefutable? I refute it.

Can't deny it? Sir, I DENY ALL OF IT!

quality discussion

Ok... And all the arguments I used, apart of those sentences? Oh, you forgot to take them in account... Bad memory man...

Y E O N N E, on 04 May 2019 - 09:07 AM, said:

The premise of this thread is built on confirmation bias and a mistaken belief that just saying something is the truth makes it so.

Phenomenal.

Ok the things the mirror says are amazing...

Edited by Tirant Lo Blanc, 04 May 2019 - 09:11 AM.

[Curccu]

Weeny Machine, on 04 May 2019 - 08:29 AM, said:

Nice strawman

Again. What do I do at times when there is no GQ games available and I got friends online?

[VigorousApathy]

Tirant Lo Blanc, on 04 May 2019 - 09:09 AM, said:

Ok... And all the arguments I used, apart of those sentences? Oh, you forgot to take them in account... Bad memory man...

No, you just havent provided any physical or mathematical evidence for your claim, other than "I feel like...". So you are being met with no amount of seriousness.

As for the problem itself since we're talking about how we feel; I feel like the matchmaker is broken in a low population game, and you are describing symptoms of both of these issues. I can see how you are aggravated, being better than 60% of the total population, yet you are tier 1. So in reality you only end up being better than about 30% of the people you play against when enough tier 1 pilots are on. Of which theres been lots because (im guessing here) of spillover from IS coalition practices.

[R0gal D0rn]

Curccu, on 04 May 2019 - 09:20 AM, said:

Again. What do I do at times when there is no GQ games available and I got friends online?

You can be a nice guy and a fair player and play alone the SOLO queue, intended to play SOLO, as his name indicates... If you are able to understand than doing a different thing is putting another palyers in a unfair disadvantage... or you can think in the other peole as NPCS, as some people do, that is for sure not being to make the world a better place, and for sure not the game...

[2DaT]

A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

[RickySpanish]

Man I have always wanted to drop into one of these sync drop games, just to see what all the anger is about. Wait, hang on, is that when a bunch of mates drop together in the hopes of getting the rare chance to shoot each other in the face? I think you can tell because there's banter at the start of a game, followed by everyone in generally good spirits, followed by gg at the end? ******* shocking.

[R0gal D0rn]

VigorousApathy, on 04 May 2019 - 09:29 AM, said:

No, you just havent provided any physical or mathematical evidence for your claim, other than "I feel like...". So you are being met with no amount of seriousness.

As for the problem itself since we're talking about how we feel; I feel like the matchmaker is broken in a low population game, and you are describing symptoms of both of these issues. I can see how you are aggravated, being better than 60% of the total population, yet you are tier 1. So in reality you only end up being better than about 30% of the people you play against when enough tier 1 pilots are on. Of which theres been lots because (im guessing here) of spillover from IS coalition practices.

Mate, the unfairness of syncro is not a mathematical issue, is an ethical lissue.... Evidently to "Proof mathematically" my self evifent point, I need to compare the functioning of the matchmaker against a matchmaker FREE OF SYNCRO... Tell me the way to do it...

No the "maths proof" is here a very bad argument.
I will not deny, as I have said form the beguining that i can´t be sure of the exact and empirical magnitude of the issue...I simply say that for those who play a lot, and in a lot of different hour fringes, the decadence of the matchmaker is more than evident...Do you prefer to think, or to make us think that this is not as bad as issue?
Ok, I´m glad If you think if it´s worth to change something that can surely retain some more players some more time... (Ah, and i´m tier one a long time ago, I can compare for sure)

The most fun for me Is to see how and with how much virulence (or lack of respect to the right to the others to a fair play) the people denies things that are just basic logic: If in a gamemode, part of the game depends on random, and you change the odds in your favor, you are basicly cheating--- The more people cheating, in comparision with the total population, the more unfair the game becomes...

That is what I call self evident... Deny that is what I call the ostrich strategy...

I.m not an angry moralist at all... Just have fun with this game, and consider some of the forum warriors good players too... But i wanted to do a test, and the result is confirming what I feared... Some will never confront themselves... Maybe they smash buttons pretty well, or maybe they are bad enough to need this "Extra" to play the game... But maybe a good player is another thing, who knows

Edited by Tirant Lo Blanc, 04 May 2019 - 09:53 AM.

[Ignatius Audene]

Only reason i see for sync drops.
A: Streamers dropping with the community. Most of the times this guys are not even on discord vor ts. So great fun, zero advantage, zero harm.

B: Friends / Unitmates that sync in qp, which because of wait times dont jump in gq. (And it is funny to argue who got the worst pugs).
Even if u end on the same side the difference is quite low. U might win some more (small impact) and in return get less matchscore (because one more hopefully good pilot contests u for the enemys (small impact). So all in all very small impact for great fun.

Ostrich behavior. Oh yes : )

Edited by Ignatius Audene, 04 May 2019 - 10:09 AM.

[PhoenixFire55]

One day baddies will stop blaming syncro-boogiemen for their losses and actually get a clue. But it is not this day.

[Weeny Machine]

Curccu, on 04 May 2019 - 09:20 AM, said:

Again. What do I do at times when there is no GQ games available and I got friends online?

Do something else if you cannot follow the rules and spirit of the playmode you sign up with. All I read there is "memememememe"

[draiocht]

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