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[Saber Avalon]

This 500 MS requirement event has driven me nuts. There's an hour left and I get this amazing game... but it's still not 500 MS?! ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!

5 Kills, 3 KMDD, 3 SOLO Kills, 735 damage, used an arty, survived (35% so barely), 9 components destroyed, and that qualifies as only 482 MS?!? GAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!

[thievingmagpi]

Assists are really important, but it's weird because if you're getting kills you can't get assists

[Saber Avalon]

thievingmagpi, on 09 May 2019 - 03:02 PM, said:

Assists are really important, but it's weird because if you're getting kills you can't get assists

"Mechwarrior Saber Avalon, you managed to nearly destroy half a company, a third of it almost by yourself! However, that means you were not assisting your team. So I'm going to have to demerit you for that. You totally saved the day and carried that engagement, but you're not a team player without assists."


Edit: Oh no... I'm T1 after that last match. NOOOOOO!

Edited by Saber Avalon, 09 May 2019 - 03:23 PM.

[Gagis]

Saber Avalon, on 09 May 2019 - 03:17 PM, said:

Edit: Oh no... I'm T1 after that last match. NOOOOOO!

I am so sorry.

[Mystere]

Saber Avalon, on 09 May 2019 - 03:17 PM, said:

"Mechwarrior Saber Avalon, you managed to nearly destroy half a company, a third of it almost by yourself! However, that means you were not assisting your team. So I'm going to have to demerit you for that. You totally saved the day and carried that engagement, but you're not a team player without assists."


Edit: Oh no... I'm T1 after that last match. NOOOOOO!

Heroes are not allowed in a team-based game.

[Bowelhacker]

Saber Avalon, on 09 May 2019 - 02:50 PM, said:

This 500 MS requirement event has driven me nuts. There's an hour left and I get this amazing game... but it's still not 500 MS?! ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!

5 Kills, 3 KMDD, 3 SOLO Kills, 735 damage, used an arty, survived (35% so barely), 9 components destroyed, and that qualifies as only 482 MS?!? GAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!

I'm sure I saw a post on here the other day basically suggesting that outcome was the very definition of a 500+ game.

[thearticulategrunt]

Dude, their match score math is done by a drunken monkey using common core math. I had a match where I nearly broke 1000 damage with 5 kills but my team lost and it did not make 500+. Actually had numerous matches like that, 700, 800, 900 damage, multiple kills and solos. Others with 600 to 700 and lots of assists but no personal kills so still no 500+. Was a wonderful reminder of why I stopped bothering with PGI's BS challenges. If I have to do calculus, in the middle of battle, to make sure I get the needed score to get the prize, it is no longer fun. So at least personally, I'm done with their BS challenges for awhile once again.

[Saber Avalon]

Bowelhacker, on 09 May 2019 - 04:10 PM, said:

I'm sure I saw a post on here the other day basically suggesting that outcome was the very definition of a 500+ game.

Outcome? As in win or loss? It was a win. Not sure what you're getting at?

[Alexandros]

Most of people will claim here that depends on skill. No It depends on circumstances. So it is not a challenge, it is a lottery you enter after a specific performance. Your score has ties to what the rest of the team did + outcome of match.

Edited by Alexandros, 09 May 2019 - 04:31 PM.

[Mystere]

thearticulategrunt, on 09 May 2019 - 04:11 PM, said:

Dude, their match score math is done by a drunken monkey using common core math. I had a match where I nearly broke 1000 damage with 5 kills but my team lost and it did not make 500+. Actually had numerous matches like that, 700, 800, 900 damage, multiple kills and solos. Others with 600 to 700 and lots of assists but no personal kills so still no 500+. Was a wonderful reminder of why I stopped bothering with PGI's BS challenges. If I have to do calculus, in the middle of battle, to make sure I get the needed score to get the prize, it is no longer fun. So at least personally, I'm done with their BS challenges for awhile once again.

You hinted at the answer already yourself: use common core math while drunk.

[LordNothing]

i just went for raw damage. games in the 800-1200 damage range all scored regardless of kills or win/loss. lowest damage that got a 500 with was about 798. cac2 ultraviolet for the win. at least it wasnt a 499 game. that's one of those really infuriating scores. you really only needed an extra 36 damage which for most mechs is a single alpha.

Edited by LordNothing, 09 May 2019 - 04:51 PM.

[Bowelhacker]

Saber Avalon, on 09 May 2019 - 04:22 PM, said:

Outcome? As in win or loss? It was a win. Not sure what you're getting at?

One of the "500 match score is piss easy" crowd was describing something pretty similar to what you achieved and suggested it was as easy as that to get the 500.

[Vxheous]

Bowelhacker, on 09 May 2019 - 04:59 PM, said:

One of the "500 match score is piss easy" crowd was describing something pretty similar to what you achieved and suggested it was as easy as that to get the 500.

To be fair, most times a game like where he did that much damage would end up being 5 kills, 7 assists, instead of his 5 kills, 2 assists. Same damage, same kills, same KMDD + 5 more assists (which you can get just targetting a mech without even shooting them) would've given him a 500 match score.

For instance, compare scrfreak1019's matchscore to ASAD AFGHAN. Approximately same damage (507 to 494) 2 kills to 1 kill, but 2 assists to 9 assists. Scrfreak1019's matchscore is 332, while ASAD AFGHAN's is 373. That 40 pt difference is most likely due to the higher number of assists, which in the OP's case (only 2 assists) would've swung him up past 500 MS easily.

Edited by Vxheous, 09 May 2019 - 05:31 PM.

[Thorn Hallis]

I think it's one KMDD missing for 500.

[0Jiggs0]

Protection Proximity and Protected Light/Medium/HeavyAssault are over-weighted in scoring. Solo-killing multiple mechs shouldn't be valued less than simply standing next to another mech and shooting a lot.

[justcallme A S H]

Only 2 Assists is why you didn't get it. If you have 5 assists you would shoe in 500 match score.

That and team damage, while it is only ONE team damage - simply getting a number in that column hurts. Hard to tell by how much but I feel like 30-40 team damage can easily knock off what feels like 50 match score.

Edited by justcallme A S H, 09 May 2019 - 06:37 PM.

[cougurt]

Alexandros, on 09 May 2019 - 04:23 PM, said:

Most of people will claim here that depends on skill. No It depends on circumstances. So it is not a challenge, it is a lottery you enter after a specific performance. Your score has ties to what the rest of the team did + outcome of match.

the fact that there are players who can average close to 500 MS would suggest to me that it is largely a matter of skill.

[50 50]

thearticulategrunt, on 09 May 2019 - 04:11 PM, said:

Dude, their match score math is done by a drunken monkey using common core math. I had a match where I nearly broke 1000 damage with 5 kills but my team lost and it did not make 500+. Actually had numerous matches like that, 700, 800, 900 damage, multiple kills and solos. Others with 600 to 700 and lots of assists but no personal kills so still no 500+. Was a wonderful reminder of why I stopped bothering with PGI's BS challenges. If I have to do calculus, in the middle of battle, to make sure I get the needed score to get the prize, it is no longer fun. So at least personally, I'm done with their BS challenges for awhile once again.

Really?
I just thought the hairy little bugger threw a dart.

[justcallme A S H]

cougurt, on 09 May 2019 - 06:38 PM, said:

the fact that there are players who can average close to 500 MS would suggest to me that it is largely a matter of skill.

Yeah it is all tied to skill. Very little to do with circumstance.

To say it is nothing to do with skill shows a pretty grave lack of understanding of the game.

[ingramli]

5 kills, 700ish dmg means you are killing foes too fast, spreading dmg, farming by going for arms and legs, using spread dmg weapons like atms and lbx is the way to go. After all, the event is not about how useful you are to your team, but your understanding towards the flawed MS mechanism and find out how to exploit it.