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#161 thievingmagpi

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Posted 01 March 2020 - 08:16 PM

View PostChenGGez, on 01 March 2020 - 08:10 PM, said:

%20https://i.imgur.com/eiHgPLy.jpg

Rank 1 Faction play leaderboards, it's the only one I could find at the moment. I'll post up the screenie of rank 1 on Jarls if I ever get time to dig through my old pc in storage and look for it. My old image host wiped their servers.


oh, KMDD determines rank now. Ok.

well that settles it, he got most kmdds at some point during a season a while ago. nothing else to see here folks

Edited by thievingmagpi, 01 March 2020 - 08:18 PM.


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Posted 01 March 2020 - 08:19 PM

View Postthievingmagpi, on 01 March 2020 - 08:16 PM, said:


oh, KMDD determines rank now. Ok.

And I always though it was amount of ribbons

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Posted 01 March 2020 - 08:31 PM

View PostMrSomaru, on 01 March 2020 - 08:15 PM, said:

How about now, when all you guys do is lose to people that can shoot? Especially now, with your XL cyclopses and corsairs?


You do realize HHoD takes in players of all skill levels of piloting including new players.

Edited by ChenGGez, 01 March 2020 - 08:33 PM.


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Posted 01 March 2020 - 08:31 PM

the activity in this base proves my darkest nightmares have become reality
my dream has dissolved into in fighting and warfare
between my followers

you are not worthy to be my successors
I can not allow this battle station to fall into such inferior hands
initiating self-destruct sequence


https://youtu.be/sF0...wgpT6myU&t=1019

#165 S t P a u l y

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Posted 01 March 2020 - 09:08 PM

hi is this the brown sea

#166 MisterSomaru

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Posted 01 March 2020 - 09:19 PM

View PostChenGGez, on 01 March 2020 - 08:31 PM, said:


You do realize HHoD takes in players of all skill levels of piloting including new players.

I do know you take in those poor unfortunate souls.
Forever will they remain stifled by bad builds and tactics, calling hacks when they're out traded. Getting laughed at when their IS assaults are predictably XL checked.
Such a bastion of learning.
Learning constant disappointment.

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Posted 01 March 2020 - 11:51 PM

....and that's 10 minutes of my life I'm not getting back.

#168 PhoenixFire55

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Posted 02 March 2020 - 02:50 AM

View PostKurlon, on 01 March 2020 - 01:30 PM, said:

Come screw with us Paul, we miss you!

No. No, we don't.

#169 PhoenixFire55

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Posted 02 March 2020 - 03:21 AM

View PostKurlon, on 01 March 2020 - 04:19 PM, said:

TLDR - Don't expect Punk Nuker 3k ™ logos at boot, but also don't be confident that there isn't anything happening to catch you being naughty.

Its PGI, so you gotta take it with a grain wagon container ship fleet of salt. I.e., there is indeed nothing. Like at all. Because if there was even an itty bitty tiny smth, they'd advertise it like the humanitys biggest achievement since wheel.


In any case ... on the subject of cheating, I'd say the same thing I've said times and times again. In this game for all intents and purposes cheating doesn't exsist.

Up until this year I've played regularly and for all my times since closed beta, thats like 7 years of MWO, I've personally witnessed exactly one sure case of cheating in-game. Guy was banned 2-3 days later. Footage, sure, I've seen maybe half a dozen more sure case cheaters, including some of the supposedly top tier comp players. All in all thats like a dozen people at most over the course of 7 years, which needless to say is infinitely insignificant. Even with the addition of the "great PGI cheater purge" that caught like ... 40? players, half of which were alts, its still infinitely insignificant.

So, when somebody "hackuzates" you can say with 99.999% certainty, that he is nothing but a butthurt baddie. Because if he wasn't, he'd given us all proof to see, like others who had a valid claim did before. And that brings me to the other thing I wanted to say ...

Because if we started talking about keeping the community intact, then the behavior displayed here but both "sides" of the discussion is quite counter-productive.

If I were you, I would flat out shut the clueless hackuzator up if he starts yapping without proof, until he provides said proof, especially so if he is a member of my unit. In fact if he continues doing so, I would simply kick him out of the unit, because his toxic behavior tarnishes the reputation of the entire unit. And if he happens to be a high rank unit officer, and nobody else among unit leadership have an issue with him, then I'd seriously consider quitting such a unit.

On the other hand, I also condemn any sort of similarly toxic assaults on entire units based on the actions of one member, along the lines of calling names and bashing someones builds due to the lack of any kind of an actually meaningful argument. When a guy comes to the forum to post his supposedly bad builds in order to advertise them to everyone - bash him all you want, I'd be the first to join you. But what builds everyone uses in-game for themselves is quite frankly none of your concern. Turning a discussion from the subject of cheating to "I understand mech builds better than you are thus all your arguments are invalid" isn't any better than clueless hackuzations in terms of toxicity.

That said, don't mind me, I'm mostly preaching to the dead here anyway. Please go back to whatever you've been doing here prior. Unlike the game itself at least this place is sometimes somewhat entertaining.

#170 PhoenixFire55

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Posted 02 March 2020 - 03:26 AM

View PostChenGGez, on 01 March 2020 - 04:21 PM, said:

This game is dying because PGI

The remainder of that sentance wasn't really necessary. I think we can all agree on that at least.

I mean honestly, I've never seen a community so stoic and loyal in the face of years of utter insults, lies and whatnot towards it from the game developer.

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Posted 02 March 2020 - 03:41 AM

Oh, almost forgot to say the most important thing!

FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

Dates, maps, tonnage restrictions ... comeon guys!

#172 Horseman

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Posted 02 March 2020 - 05:09 AM

View PostChenGGez, on 29 February 2020 - 10:36 PM, said:

Only one person in HHoD has complained about cheaters, not exploiters. He does not speak for all of us.
The fact that HHOD isn't taking steps to correct that attitude does speak for all of you, though.

View PostChenGGez, on 01 March 2020 - 07:15 PM, said:

I only have one account, once I hit rank 1 I went back to leveling new mechs instead of waiting for the season to end. Simple as that.
Sorry, man, but "rank 1" before end of season is not rank 1 in the final placement.

View PostChenGGez, on 01 March 2020 - 03:24 PM, said:

1. People cheat regardless of the game population. They cheat because they don't have enough skill to play the game, the same applies to smurf accounts. If PGI wants to make this game a success wouldn't it make sense to adopt a system that 100% of all competitive PVP arena shooters have?
It wouldn't, because even if PGI went to ban the account in question, they suck at identifying - and punishing - ban evasion.

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2. It's important to instill confidence in the product, otherwise people will justifying /uninstall MWO because it's filled with "cheaters". And I'm sure it happens.
I've seen players make up hackusations for reasons such as their own poor reading comprehension - really bad one in Solaris, "ALL STREAKS WENT FOR THE LEGS?! HACKER!!!"... in response to being legged by a SRM6 boat.
As you said yourself, no anti-cheat is perfect; therefore, having some big publicized anti-cheat system WON'T convince anyone that their opponent isn't cheating - they will just fall back to the good old "they found a way to get around it".

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3. What's more important? Having a feature that all mainstream games have? Or having features that people "Might" want.
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Edited by Horseman, 02 March 2020 - 07:48 AM.


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Posted 02 March 2020 - 09:50 AM

BUT GUYS, I WAS NUMBAH WON ON THE JARLS MID SEASON TOO! YOU CAN'T PROVE I WASN'T! I HAVE TOO MANY MECHS TO SKILL TO STAY AT THE TOP FOR LONG!

GG EZ FOOLS!

Edited by Temporary Axis, 02 March 2020 - 09:51 AM.


#174 Sniper09121986

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Posted 02 March 2020 - 11:30 AM

View PostBrauer, on 01 March 2020 - 09:28 AM, said:

That's fine, it just means you are decreasing your own potential performance.


I am not playing for money or something. If I suddenly grow myself a big pro esport sponsor contract or something, I will use what others use. No rocket science there. And even then, putting up the same numbers without consumables as the guy with them makes up for its own challenge, right?

View PostHazeclaw, on 01 March 2020 - 09:54 AM, said:

You should never skill out your mechs, because that's just an exploit that makes your mechs stronger and has nothing to do with your skill. You should also put more armor on the back because front loading armor is an obvious exploit and is not honorable. Don't even get me started on the weapon synergy, that's just flat out hacking, you should have multiple weapon types effective at different ranges, because that's how real men do it. Cause you know, grown men playing a video game and taking it so seriously is so manly, and all warrior like and sh*t.


What can I say, I like Quake too. The real one, the Overwatch reskin less so. And you make great points, just yesterday I did two fresh guys with 200 dmg in total. All proper meta builds with naked @$$. Oh well...

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Posted 02 March 2020 - 12:02 PM

View PostHorseman, on 02 March 2020 - 05:09 AM, said:

The fact that HHOD isn't taking steps to correct that attitude does speak for all of you, though.

You have no say in this, you were in a position of power in HHoD and chose to jump ship instead of trying to correct or help with this issue.

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Sorry, man, but "rank 1" before end of season is not rank 1 in the final placement.

Obviously when did I claim otherwise? The lesson learned here is that people on the forums don't seem to care about Jarls that much and I should stop playing for the rest of the season once I hit the rank I wanted to posterize.

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It wouldn't, because even if PGI went to ban the account in question, they suck at identifying - and punishing - ban evasion.

Just another example of the failures of PGI to add to the ever growing list of why this game failed.

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I've seen players make up hackusations for reasons such as their own poor reading comprehension - really bad one in Solaris, "ALL STREAKS WENT FOR THE LEGS?! HACKER!!!"... in response to being legged by a SRM6 boat.

Not part of the problems that adding an anti-cheat system to the game would solve.

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As you said yourself, no anti-cheat is perfect; therefore, having some big publicized anti-cheat system WON'T convince anyone that their opponent isn't cheating - they will just fall back to the good old they found a way to get around it

People need to stop looking at things as black and white, it is up to PGI to instill customer confidence in their product. Adding an anti-cheat system won't stop all hackusations, people will hackusate no matter what as it's part of human nature to blame others first instead of themselves. What it will do is stop the majority of hackusations that happen because "there is no anti-cheat system in place therefore the game is easy to hack."

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By your own description, this is a feature that people might want.

Sure it's a system that people might want, but it's a feature that all successful modern arena shooters must have as it is currently the industry standard. If PGI is trying to make MWO more successful or even mainstream wouldn't it make sense to have a feature that all other mainstream arena shooters have?

View PostTemporary Axis, on 02 March 2020 - 09:50 AM, said:

BUT GUYS, I WAS NUMBAH WON ON THE JARLS MID SEASON TOO! YOU CAN'T PROVE I WASN'T! I HAVE TOO MANY MECHS TO SKILL TO STAY AT THE TOP FOR LONG!

GG EZ FOOLS!


I admit that I was overzealous in defending my builds which has led to this reaction, but how does this behavior benefit the community?

Edited by ChenGGez, 02 March 2020 - 12:03 PM.


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Posted 02 March 2020 - 12:11 PM

Galileo Chen Galileo.
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#177 Kurlon

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Posted 02 March 2020 - 12:22 PM

View PostNovakaine, on 02 March 2020 - 12:11 PM, said:

Galileo Chen Galileo.


I don't recall Galileo being known for saying the world is flat? Or are you saying Chen thinks the world revolves around him? I'm not getting this metaphor...

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Posted 02 March 2020 - 12:25 PM

View PostKurlon, on 02 March 2020 - 12:22 PM, said:


I don't recall Galileo being known for saying the world is flat? Or are you saying Chen thinks the world revolves around him? I'm not getting this metaphor...


He was known for speaking the truth, and people hated him for it.

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Posted 02 March 2020 - 12:28 PM

View PostChenGGez, on 02 March 2020 - 12:25 PM, said:

He was known for speaking the truth, and people hated him for it.


Yeah, see, that doesn't apply here either... THAT'S THE JOKE!

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Posted 02 March 2020 - 12:32 PM

View PostKurlon, on 02 March 2020 - 12:28 PM, said:


Yeah, see, that doesn't apply here either... THAT'S THE JOKE!


You were asking for a history lesson, that's the answer. Those are the facts.

Also, your jokes are terrible, or do you wish to continue your toxic behavior?

Is that how a MWO comp referee should be acting on the forums?





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