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[Kubernetes]

I mark up my face with a green sharpie and yell out "Initiate enhanced imaging!" when I turn on heat or night vision.

10/10 Immersion skill nodes selected.

[HammerMaster]

Prototelis, on 23 July 2019 - 02:52 PM, said:

I see I have derailed your train of thought by finally getting through to you.

I'm glad you understand how lore informed by arbitrary board game mechanics is bad; and by extension how board game mechanics don't apply to action games.

Edited by HammerMaster, 23 July 2019 - 04:51 PM.

[Alcom Isst]

Kubernetes, on 23 July 2019 - 03:12 PM, said:

Depends, do you hit override as soon as you drop?

No. I forget to because of passing butterflies or whichever.

[Prototelis]

HammerMaster, on 23 July 2019 - 04:51 PM, said:

I'm glad we can finally stop talking about how bad board game mechanic informed lore is, how board game mechanics aren't immersive in an action game, and how wrong you were.

kudos for finally admitting you were wrong.

[ackstorm]

Alcom Isst, on 20 July 2019 - 01:59 PM, said:

What do the mechdad boomers have against not needing to press O every match?

I think what you mean was 'auto-destruct' ?

[JadePanther]

Hazeclaw, on 20 July 2019 - 03:40 PM, said:

shutting down in front of anyone who knows what they're doing is a 100% death sentence, that's how people farm headshots

menu toggle for override should have been a feature from day one, but at this point pgi isn't gonna do anything

knowing and having watched someone that does multiple headshots in a day.. staring at the guy for more than 3 seconds lets him farm headshots.. shutting down in front of him just gives him time to put on a blindfold, light a cigar, kick his feet up on the dashboard and do it with both hands tied behind his back..

shutting down just gives anyone else a real chance to get one for a change..

Edited by JadePanther, 29 July 2019 - 04:59 PM.

[RileyRackham]

Please add the option in the "gameplay settings", like "arm lock".

[General Solo]

Alcom Isst, on 20 July 2019 - 01:59 PM, said:

What do the mechdad boomers have against not needing to press O every match?

I dont get the heat bug with over ride off
So where did the boomer touch you?
Naughty spot is my guess

RileyRackham, on 05 February 2021 - 06:01 PM, said:

Please add the option in the "gameplay settings", like "arm lock".

They could add some thing usefull like good match matcher
Or remove something like groups in soup que
Rather than worry about trivialities that don't make them money

[MechWarrior5782621]

I would "buy a mechpack" for auto-override & auto-open missile bay doors.

[w0qj]

If players insist on an "auto-override" as default, perhaps MWO can put into the game [Settings]:

[ ] Start mech with Thermal-Override

******And the default option for this (upon MWO game client installation) is OFF.
ie: You have to put a checkmark into above option box in order to enable "auto-override" if you wish.

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******Otherwise, I can just see beginner players shutting down all over the place, and not even knowing why (and likely getting killed too).

[Swamp Butt]

To answer the question, I'd blow myself up!

[VonBruinwald]

w0qj, on 05 February 2021 - 09:24 PM, said:

If players insist on an "auto-override" as default, perhaps MWO can put into the game [Settings]:

[ ] Start mech with Thermal-Override

******And the default option for this (upon MWO game client installation) is OFF.
ie: You have to put a checkmark into above option box in order to enable "auto-override" if you wish.

- - - - - - - - - -
******Otherwise, I can just see beginner players shutting down all over the place, and not even knowing why (and likely getting killed too).

Do people struggle to hit the override key or something? The thing's not on a timer so once it's on it's on.

When a match starts I can hit override, set throttle to 100% cycle my weapon group down to LAMS/Stealth and still have time to spam something in the chat box before the dropship releases me.

Edited by VonBruinwald, 07 February 2021 - 04:14 AM.

[The pessimistic optimist]

VonBruinwald, on 07 February 2021 - 04:13 AM, said:

Do people struggle to hit the override key or something? The thing's not on a timer so once it's on it's on.

When a match starts I can hit override, set throttle to 100% cycle my weapon group down to LAMS/Stealth and still have time to spam something in the chat box before the dropship releases me.

They forget then shut down and take damage or get killed

[VonBruinwald]

SirSmokes, on 07 February 2021 - 04:22 AM, said:

They forget then shut down and take damage or get killed

That's on them. Should have a check-list before every drop: Everyone feels the need to check their weapons fire so why not hit override while they're at it.

[Gagis]

Don't be obtuse. 99% of the time having override on is preferable to having shutdown enabled, and some of that time people will forget and get killed for no good reason.

It makes absolutely no sense to not have that option.

[VonBruinwald]

Gagis, on 07 February 2021 - 04:54 AM, said:

Don't be obtuse. 99% of the time having override on is preferable to having shutdown enabled, and some of that time people will forget and get killed for no good reason.

It makes absolutely no sense to not have that option.

I disagree, in T5 where cadets are learning the basics and poor/no heat management is a thing, shutdown is preferable to override/death. You shut down in the middle of combat the aim is so poor you're more than likely to survive.

As you advance through the tiers it becomes more useful to toggle override, and it's near mandatory in T1, but by that time you should be performing the basics automatically. If you forget them, that's on you.

Next thing you'll be asking for LAMS to automatically switch off at 90% heat.

[Gagis]

You are seriously arguing for bad user interface design, because struggling with bad UI is a skill.

Ok Boomer.

[VonBruinwald]

Gagis, on 07 February 2021 - 05:49 AM, said:

You are seriously arguing for bad user interface design, because struggling with bad UI is a skill.

Forgetting to push a button =/= bad UI

If there wasn't a big red banner at the top of the screen telling you override was on you might have a point.



This isn't like missile doors where you have to pixel hunt to tell if the doors are open or not.

[Gagis]

That flashing text is whole another problem. Its obstructive and distracting and obnoxious element that would be better off not being there or being a lot smaller like it is in the MW5 UI.

A giant bar of flashing red letters you will be having on your screen for virtually full duration of every match is horrible.

[SPNKRGrenth]

I love how those who are against adding a gameplay option to start with override on, have to phrase it like the game will start with it toggled on by default. No. The default would be override OFF, and you'd manually go into options to turn auto-override ON. But everything has to be a fight, every easily implemented basic player convenience that would be implemented as an optional option that would be off by default, has to be the hill to die on. Scapegoats and straw-mans are thrown left and right to justify it too, which is confusing and bizarre. And when challenged and asked how it'd be detrimental to be able to manually enable a game option for override at the start of the match to be automatic, either it's ignored, or a nonsense answer is given. So why, why do those of who nay-say so strongly, fight so dang hard, have so much beef against the idea of an easy to add option being put in for those who would use it.

I swear, you all would take a grand stand against options for arm-lock and colorblind mode if they weren't already in the game. Might as well make straw-man arguments against people being allowed to have throttle decay turned on too. Heck you already conflate completely unrelated things to the simple request for an option to have override turn on at the start of the match.

Edited by SPNKRGrenth, 07 February 2021 - 05:35 PM.