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[Toothless]

https://www.pcgamer....st-fps-games/5/

This isnt even the original article I wanted from a few years back, when PGI totally didnt pay PC Gamer to list MWO as one of the 25 FPS of ALL TIME.

Think about that for a second, this was in print, in a magazine. Think about how highly refined and polished MWO is now in 2019, now go back six years. THAT was top shooter material.

Frankly all of you should be grateful they are making MW5 at all, instead of pointing out the completely inept corruption of Russ and PGI as a whole.

EDIT: Oooh I found the original thread from 2013. https://mwomercs.com...rs-of-all-time/

Edited by Toothless, 29 July 2019 - 06:59 AM.

[JediPanther]

Pfff wolfenstein is far better than mwo will never be. The original one that I played on the old packer bell machine. Hell even the Lucasarts Tie and X-wing series are far better than mwo as an fps shooter.

Nice troll post. Did you find pgi's circular nascar 30 seconds to engagement map design from one of those pc gamer archived articles? I long ago threw away the physical copy I had of it.

[Thorqemada]

Well, i dont care where it is ranked.

It had have a good core game that engaged me some years

The additions made slowly drove me more and more away.
After voting it was no more possible to evade modes you do not like and build up excitement in modes you like.
My playing motivation tanked to the very Bottom since then.

Up and into 2015 i played ~20.000 Matches (including Beta)
In the years after i played ~2.000 Matches

(a few thousand matches never were registered - my best guess is that i am between 23500 and 25000 matches)

If MWO closes door i will conclude i had my moneys worth in playtime and hope for a better one bcs the things that demotivate me, which excludes the core game, will not change for the better in this MWO life.

Edited by Thorqemada, 29 July 2019 - 07:44 AM.

[Skoll]

Toothless, on 29 July 2019 - 06:57 AM, said:

https://www.pcgamer....st-fps-games/5/

This isnt even the original article I wanted from a few years back, when PGI totally didnt pay PC Gamer to list MWO as one of the 25 FPS of ALL TIME.

Think about that for a second, this was in print, in a magazine. Think about how highly refined and polished MWO is now in 2019, now go back six years. THAT was top shooter material.

Frankly all of you should be grateful they are making MW5 at all, instead of pointing out the completely inept corruption of Russ and PGI as a whole.

EDIT: Oooh I found the original thread from 2013. https://mwomercs.com...rs-of-all-time/

We laughed about it six years ago and called it bull then. It's still bull today.

[Alexandra Hekmatyar]

That article also has this donkey dong in their list.




Among others.

[Toothless]

Alexandra Hekmatyar, on 29 July 2019 - 09:00 AM, said:

That article also has this donkey dong in their list.




Among others.

Now thats a thinking man's game.

[LordNothing]

pc gamer are a bunch of shills and you should never trust them.

the only one that belongs in that list is q3a. and the fact that og unreal tournament (far superior in terms of gameplay to q3a) was absent was somewhat appaling.

Edited by LordNothing, 29 July 2019 - 10:39 AM.

[Feral Clown]

Toothless, on 29 July 2019 - 06:57 AM, said:

https://www.pcgamer....st-fps-games/5/

This isnt even the original article I wanted from a few years back, when PGI totally didnt pay PC Gamer to list MWO as one of the 25 FPS of ALL TIME.

Think about that for a second, this was in print, in a magazine. Think about how highly refined and polished MWO is now in 2019, now go back six years. THAT was top shooter material.

Frankly all of you should be grateful they are making MW5 at all, instead of pointing out the completely inept corruption of Russ and PGI as a whole.

EDIT: Oooh I found the original thread from 2013. https://mwomercs.com...rs-of-all-time/

I still play.

Mechs in my opinion look amazing.

Core shooting and game play is something I find very engaging.

That said PGI with their own actions, backed up by years of deceitful practices, really poor decisions, disdain and lack of engagement with the community....well basically I have learned by how I have been treated as a customer (3k spent on MWO) by PGI to not do silly things like pre-order a god damn thing.

If they had no other option but to go this route, I get it, but say that. Instead they sold steam keys and promised full mod support through steam....I don't even use steam. It's just another thing in a long list of what PGI has taught me about themselves.

[Prototelis]

I think most of the people left would agree the core gameplay is awesome.

I especially like the DOT mechanic used for lasers. That was a good bit of design right there.

[General Solo]

Prototelis, on 29 July 2019 - 03:49 PM, said:

I think most of the people left would agree the core gameplay is awesome.

I especially like the DOT mechanic used for lasers. That was a good bit of design right there.

Yeah aggreed

Doh not dealing with another huge issue people leave aka skill gap aka matchmaker IMO has resulted in dwindling numbers more than anything else again IMO.

Edited by OZHomerOZ, 29 July 2019 - 08:32 PM.

[Prototelis]

Game would have had a lot more staying power from the get go with a more robust matchmaker.

[LordNothing]

and more maps, maps that look like locations in the inner sphere, not canada.

[Anjian]

...and game modes... game modes that would keep the player engaged for more than just a few minutes. In fact I think this game came quite close to greatness but failed to bridge that gap due to game modes and maps.

Edited by Anjian, 30 July 2019 - 07:21 AM.

[Nightbird]

MWO is one of the top shooters of all time, looking just from the mechanics point of view.

It's problems are learning curve, match making, and PGI commitment to maps and modes. PGI just doesn't understand human psychology or statistics so their solutions have diminished the otherwise stellar experience.

[Bud Crue]

For my money MWO is one of the best nostalgia inspired, giant robot skin, group/team driven, shooty games of all time. Now those may be some significant qualifiers that takes it out of the realm of being among the “best shooters”, but it’s still a pretty awesome game. I’ve certainly enjoyed playing the game more than I have hated what PGI has done to it, and if PGI didn’t seem so hell bent on either half-assing its primary enticements (waves at FP) or outright breaking it (waves at oh so many of the more nonsensical/heavy handed “balance” decisions over the years) I’d still be spending money on it.

I don’t much care about MW5. To me it looks to be MW4 Mercenaries with MWO mech models. Yippie. But MWO? That has been unique from day one, and after 8 years there is still no other game like it. So say what you will about Russ and co.all the stupidity of their decisions and conduct over the years, but they gave us a game that truly is unique and I for one will miss it after they’ve driven it into the ground. Damn shame about that. Still, I can’t help but wonder about what might have been if they would have ever stopped to think “maybe instead of focusing on using MWO as a minimally viable platform to get MW5 made, we should actually see what people like about MWO and spend some effort making those aspects better? Maybe even put in some serious effort at making the game into what we originally advertised? Oh well.

[Toothless]

Wait why hasnt this been jettisoned along with the 90 other PGI disparaging threads?

[MeiSooHaityu]

Toothless, on 01 August 2019 - 03:41 AM, said:

Wait why hasnt this been jettisoned along with the 90 other PGI disparaging threads?

Because it is about MWO, so it belongs in the 'General Discussion' sub-forum.

[Asym]

I refused to play MWO for several years after it's release because of the bad reviews.... When i did join, a few months before the skill tree change, I was surprised by the game and game play ! It was a lot of fun.

Then, the skill tree change and that was a slow death for a great many of us. Now, once every once and a while and only for events with MC. A great concept and a great platform, in the right hands, could be a top notch game..... Sadly, that isn't going to happen......

It is and was a fun game and I spent a lot of time playing it..... Now, there are other games that replaced it. If you drop into WoWs, drop me a line and say "hi"! Cheers..........

[Willard Phule]

Prototelis, on 29 July 2019 - 08:57 PM, said:

Game would have had a lot more staying power from the get go with a more robust matchmaker.

Anything beyond slapping 24 random people together into a match is beyond PGI's ability. Even that is difficult at times. Separation based on anything resembling skill is a wash.

[ShiverMeRivets]

Asym, on 01 August 2019 - 04:02 AM, said:

I refused to play MWO for several years after it's release because of the bad reviews.... When i did join, a few months before the skill tree change, I was surprised by the game and game play ! It was a lot of fun.
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I too passed over this game for many years because of all the bitching I heard about it. Too bad I paid attention because when I finally tried it it turned out to be a great game. Just to put things in perspective, in the last 15 years I only played 3 other games besides MWO, for more than a couple of weeks. I am that picky about my games.

MWO community is indeed the saltiest ungrateful bunch of slobs that I have ever read on a forum. I am surprised that PGI tolerates such postings on their forums. It must have lost them many potential players like me who were turned off by the attitudes in the community.