Deathstrike
#1
Posted 15 August 2019 - 03:47 PM
Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts. I used to run dual uac 10's with 4 heavy medium lasers and was regularly pulling 600-800 with 2-4 kills and 3-6 assists.
I decided to change it up a bit and started running dual uac 20's with 4 heavy mediums and it sucks like there is no tomorrow. I regularly finish sub 300 with MAYBE 1 kill.
Any thoughts about why that might be? I should be popping out 20 more points per salvo with the 20 instead of the 10's.
I really want to understand why it performs so much worse. I dont feel it is for lack of armor. I think I dropped a couple of heat sinks and some ammo to make room for the 20's. I am still running something like 1.40ish heat vs the 1.5ish before the change. That cant be that big of a difference can it? Or 1 ton or armor?
#2
Posted 15 August 2019 - 03:55 PM
B. Shorter optimal range reduces the number of opportunities you have to shoot stuff.
C. UAC/20s stay jammed for an ungodly long duration, while UAC/10s recover at a more reasonable rate. Basically you have more downtime.
D. Fewer heatsinks and hotter main guns will also increase your downtime.
TL;DR: UAC/20s are poo poo.
#3
Posted 15 August 2019 - 04:42 PM
I might try 2Gauss and the rest MPLs.
#4
Posted 15 August 2019 - 10:04 PM
#5
Posted 15 August 2019 - 10:13 PM
I have tried UAC20s but on other mechs before I determined it was crap to continue with the weapon.
#6
Posted 15 August 2019 - 10:58 PM
It has six energy hardpoints so use em.
If you insist on uac's run two tens and six med pulse.
#7
Posted 15 August 2019 - 11:20 PM
terascque, on 15 August 2019 - 03:47 PM, said:
Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts. I used to run dual uac 10's with 4 heavy medium lasers and was regularly pulling 600-800 with 2-4 kills and 3-6 assists.
I decided to change it up a bit and started running dual uac 20's with 4 heavy mediums and it sucks like there is no tomorrow. I regularly finish sub 300 with MAYBE 1 kill.
Any thoughts about why that might be? I should be popping out 20 more points per salvo with the 20 instead of the 10's.
I really want to understand why it performs so much worse. I dont feel it is for lack of armor. I think I dropped a couple of heat sinks and some ammo to make room for the 20's. I am still running something like 1.40ish heat vs the 1.5ish before the change. That cant be that big of a difference can it? Or 1 ton or armor?
Go back to two 10s and tell me how you're doing it. I can't squeeze nearly that kind of damage out of a Deathstrike!
#8
Posted 16 August 2019 - 02:08 AM
If you want to dakka with MK2 why not just MKII-B ? (Yes Deathstrike has quirks but still not as good)
and IMO UAC20 is trash unless you can run two of them without ghost heat and even then they are only ok'ish.
#9
Posted 16 August 2019 - 07:59 AM
#10
Posted 16 August 2019 - 08:19 AM
Curccu, on 16 August 2019 - 02:08 AM, said:
If you want to dakka with MK2 why not just MKII-B ? (Yes Deathstrike has quirks but still not as good)
and IMO UAC20 is trash unless you can run two of them without ghost heat and even then they are only ok'ish.
Gauss vomits fun there like hole punches for mech armor DS make great one my preferred gauss vomit truly vomits the guass https://mech.nav-alp...#1ecf5025_ON1-P dual light guass protector 32% cool down but yea that the way to go with the DS guass.
Edited by SirSmokes, 16 August 2019 - 08:20 AM.
#11
Posted 16 August 2019 - 10:45 AM
Good hunting,
CFC Conky
Edited by CFC Conky, 16 August 2019 - 10:45 AM.
#12
Posted 16 August 2019 - 11:11 AM
As far as the meta goes, if you perform worse using the meta, why use it?? I get it a guass shot is more pinpoint the the uac's, but when I use guass rifles I get the same performance as using the uac 20's. In other words, poor.
I cant hit the broad side of a moving barn. If the target moves, I just wasted the shot. I am unable to be mobile while holding down the charge button. Its to much for me to torso twist, move, and hold down a button for 2 seconds. In other words, I suck.
I know Medium lasers are preferred over running the Heavy medium lasers, but I like the substantially higher alpha over the dps of the medium lasers.
I am not really interested in DPS with this build, I want a big 80 point alpha, over and over, and over again.
Thanks for answering my question!
#13
Posted 16 August 2019 - 12:01 PM
terascque, on 16 August 2019 - 11:11 AM, said:
As far as the meta goes, if you perform worse using the meta, why use it?? I get it a guass shot is more pinpoint the the uac's, but when I use guass rifles I get the same performance as using the uac 20's. In other words, poor.
I cant hit the broad side of a moving barn. If the target moves, I just wasted the shot. I am unable to be mobile while holding down the charge button. Its to much for me to torso twist, move, and hold down a button for 2 seconds. In other words, I suck.
I know Medium lasers are preferred over running the Heavy medium lasers, but I like the substantially higher alpha over the dps of the medium lasers.
I am not really interested in DPS with this build, I want a big 80 point alpha, over and over, and over again.
Thanks for answering my question!
Maybe you should slow your mouse settings down if you can't hit
#14
Posted 16 August 2019 - 01:22 PM
Vxheous, on 16 August 2019 - 12:01 PM, said:
Maybe you should slow your mouse settings down if you can't hit
Always funny watching someone with DPI too high. Its really funny when you watch someone try to use laser with to high DPI there just all over the place.
Edited by SirSmokes, 17 August 2019 - 11:06 AM.
#15
Posted 16 August 2019 - 02:34 PM
#17
Posted 17 August 2019 - 03:03 AM
EDIT - a variant on this is 5MPL. It offsets the 2 tonne weight + of the UAC20 over the normal 2UAC10 configuration, and it reduces heat further for more sustainable dps at the expense of slightly less burst.
Edited by Random Carnage, 17 August 2019 - 03:07 AM.
#18
Posted 17 August 2019 - 10:25 AM
That quirk is there to be a noob trap.
#19
Posted 19 August 2019 - 10:24 AM
I would not add a fifth and sixth laser with such a loadout. Way too hot, and not necessary. Set up for good sustain, a fast(ish) engine, and plenty of ammo.
I also have a MCII-1(S), which I've set up with the dual gauss 4 ERML meta, but I haven't done much with it yet. It's a very different play style from my DualUAC10 4MPL Deathstrike.
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