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[NocturnalBeast]

A1Ste4kSauce, on 20 August 2019 - 05:24 PM, said:

Why I never pre-order. They straight up used BattleTech fans to get the epic deal then threw them aside. They probably hope that Fortnite players will buy it in droves and replace all of us.

I doubt it, Fornite fans are already "boycotting" Fortnite because of the one "MECH" that is in the game for the current season, even some streamers have left the game temporarily. MW5 will not be fast paced enough for them and it will not have dance emotes or "back bling" and you will not be able to pull wood and bricks out of your rear end to instantly build a wall around yourself, so I don't think that Fortnite fans will buy MW5 in droves.

[FRAGTAST1C]

Ed Steele, on 20 August 2019 - 09:50 PM, said:

you will not be able to pull wood and bricks out of your rear end to instantly build a wall around yourself

Imagine if we could build a "left-turn only" race track?

[Vellron2005]

When are the beta backers from the first preorder gonna have game access again?

[Aidan Crenshaw]

Check the FAQs, link is above.

[G a i s u t o]

omg lol.. so happy I got refunded...

[Nesutizale]

I am realy thinking if I also should refund and buy again on Epic.
When I look at the extras of the deluxe version I could get the tech manual, that I wanted from the 120$ Mercs version but for 50$ and with the exchange rate I would only pay 3€ more instead of haveing to pay about 70€ if I had bought the Mercs edition.

PGI you are doing something very wrong. What was the refund hotline again?

Edited by Nesutizale, 21 August 2019 - 02:47 AM.

[Mechwarrior 37]

So you want $10.00 for .003 cents worth of "digital content"?

You can only call people stupid a limited amount of times.

Edited by Mechwarrior 37, 21 August 2019 - 03:32 AM.

[RakiaTime]

i like how they are showing a physical box for the game and a disk for the soundtrack on a digital only product, havent you had enough false advertising PGI?

[m4rci]

no thanks pgi. see you 2020

[Nesutizale]

Mechwarrior 37, on 21 August 2019 - 03:31 AM, said:

So you want $10.00 for .003 cents worth of "digital content"?
You can only call people stupid a limited amount of times.

When you bought the Merc edition for 120$, refund and buy the Epic Deluxe edition you save 70$ and still get basicly the same content. Minus skins and beta access. When you don't care for those that is actualy a pretty good deal.

When you exchange the basic edition for the deluxe edition you get even more then before for 3$ extra. While definitly not such a good deal, if you realy want the TechManual its still better then the 120$ you had to pay before.
Also yes its not that greate of a deal. I would say that 1-2 days after release you will find the PDF online somewhere.

Rakia Time, on 21 August 2019 - 04:12 AM, said:

i like how they are showing a physical box for the game and a disk for the soundtrack on a digital only product, havent you had enough false advertising PGI?

I like how people aspect that a box and CD pop out of their cable/wifi connection because there is an image of a Box.

[Tesunie]

Rakia Time, on 21 August 2019 - 04:12 AM, said:

i like how they are showing a physical box for the game and a disk for the soundtrack on a digital only product, havent you had enough false advertising PGI?

It's not false advertising. It is misleading imagery and a bit confusing though. It's clearly been mentioned that the product is downloadable when purchased etc. They could have done a better job that would have been less misleading, but at the same time it's also understandable what is being represented with the written portion that it is all downloadable content.

Nesutizale, on 21 August 2019 - 07:02 AM, said:

I like how people aspect that a box and CD pop out of their cable/wifi connection because there is an image of a Box.

How dumb does your statement seem? It's more likely that people are expecting, due to confusing imagery on the design aspect, that the game may become released in a boxed form (which is rare now a days for PC video game sales) which may at some point be purchased off a shelf in a store. No one would expect physical goods to "pop out of my wifi, cable nor computer". I understand you are joking, but give some amount of intelligence credit to the people you are "bashing".

The imagery they are using is a little misleading. Rather than a box to represent their product (which they aren't selling in that form as far as I know) with a little download symbol under it, they could have simply placed the MW5 emblem to represent the game instead. Would have been less confusing/misleading. The music "CD" could have been replaced with a simple note symbol. The manual "booklet" could have just had a greyed out faded "PDF" lettering splayed across the cover or something. This would have been for clarity of visual representation.


Once again, it's not false advertising to be clear. It's just confusing imagery and design.

[NocturnalBeast]

https://mobile.twitt...-fortnite-brute

Look like things are going well, seems like many Fortnite players on Twitter are loud and clueless (this is being VERY generous). MW5 is definitely not being marketed to the existing playerbase and the target market is not going to be interested in that type of game. Also, I read somewhere that the MECH LAB was removed from MW5, can this be confirmed or denied?

Edited by Ed Steele, 21 August 2019 - 09:18 PM.

[Nesutizale]

@Tesunie
The guy I replied to was makeing an accusation just so he can bash PGI. Seriously that has to stop. If this would be the image on steam no one would even mention it in any way. There wouldn't be any posts about it. This is just a stupid customer complaining about nothing that could be solved by using your brain for a second.

Also I have enough of customers complaining at that level. I had so much stupid complaints and question from customers my entire life that I am just so sick of it.
When you order at an online store that only offers downloads and nowhere its mentioned that there will ever be physical copies than that means exactly that. There won't be any.

As for the representation itself. Yes could have been done better or they could have said "Digital contant" like they did with the community pre-order but you can also aspect custoumers to think for just a second what the symboles mean.
Also PGI and pysical copies...yah everyone here should have enough experiance with PGI and has followed MWO long enough that they should know that this won't happen. It was also communicated in posts and AMA so you can't even say that it was never mentioned.

This is just "I want to find something to rage against PGI".

[Nesutizale]

Ed Steele, on 21 August 2019 - 07:55 AM, said:

Also, I read somewhere that the MECH LAB was remote from MW5, can this be confirmed or denied?

From what I know the MechLab of MW5 will be different from MWOs MechLab.
IIRC you will have less options to costumize your mech. No longer will you be able to min/max as you did with MWO.
Reason behind that is that Mechs should stay recognizable. You see an Jenner then you know roughly what it can do.
Also some chassis will be sold more or less only where they are produced. So you want a specific mech you have to go where its made or mostly used. You should still be able to sometimes find a chassis somewhere else but it would be rare.

Its a bit of worldbuilding that MWO has lacked and I find that refreshing to work with some form of restrictions so you have to make the best out of what you have instead of makeing all your mechs the same.

Edited by Nesutizale, 21 August 2019 - 08:16 AM.

[RakiaTime]

Nesutizale, on 21 August 2019 - 08:10 AM, said:

@Tesunie
The guy I replied to was makeing an accusation just so he can bash PGI. Seriously that has to stop. If this would be the image on steam no one would even mention it in any way. There wouldn't be any posts about it. This is just a stupid customer complaining about nothing that could be solved by using your brain for a second.

Also I have enough of customers complaining at that level. I had so much stupid complaints and question from customers my entire life that I am just so sick of it.
When you order at an online store that only offers downloads and nowhere its mentioned that there will ever be physical copies than that means exactly that. There won't be any.

As for the representation itself. Yes could have been done better or they could have said "Digital contant" like they did with the community pre-order but you can also aspect custoumers to think for just a second what the symboles mean.
Also PGI and pysical copies...yah everyone here should have enough experiance with PGI and has followed MWO long enough that they should know that this won't happen. It was also communicated in posts and AMA so you can't even say that it was never mentioned.

This is just "I want to find something to rage against PGI".

you're right, i do want to find something to rage agains PGI, because they are incompetent and deserve it

[Tesunie]

Nesutizale, on 21 August 2019 - 08:10 AM, said:

@Tesunie
The guy I replied to was makeing an accusation just so he can bash PGI. Seriously that has to stop. If this would be the image on steam no one would even mention it in any way. There wouldn't be any posts about it. This is just a stupid customer complaining about nothing that could be solved by using your brain for a second.

Also I have enough of customers complaining at that level. I had so much stupid complaints and question from customers my entire life that I am just so sick of it.
When you order at an online store that only offers downloads and nowhere its mentioned that there will ever be physical copies than that means exactly that. There won't be any.

As for the representation itself. Yes could have been done better or they could have said "Digital contant" like they did with the community pre-order but you can also aspect custoumers to think for just a second what the symboles mean.
Also PGI and pysical copies...yah everyone here should have enough experiance with PGI and has followed MWO long enough that they should know that this won't happen. It was also communicated in posts and AMA so you can't even say that it was never mentioned.

This is just "I want to find something to rage against PGI".

I can see it being an "unreasonable assumption" to make demands from PGI for a boxed version. You are right that PGI has been talking about digital content only. At the same time, I also think it could have been represented in a clearer fashion with their imagery.

AKA: I don't think anyone should expect it to be a box version, despite the imagery used. I do feel it could have been betrayed better for clarity to prevent stupid arguments and additional false claims, which I've been seeing here in this thread and in the past with PGI.

A lot of people like bringing false claims against PGI, but it's also not unique to PGI either. DE, makers of Warframe, get a lot of undeserved flak for things. They fix something here, people complain about this problem over there not being fixed yet. They add in a whole new mission type, and people complain about lack of content in the next hot fix that corrects bugs... There will always be the "professionally dissatisfied", no matter what game or company is being discussed.

[Nesutizale]

Yes PGI could have done themself a favor to give other less surface to attack them on but as you said someone will allways find something. Its a very sad trend indeed that is sipping into real life too.

Had a customer that went "Why are the graphics on paper no glowing like the preview on the screen?" Let him hold the flyer against the screen then he went "Oh". Yes paper dosn't come with integrated LEDs but I had to listen to a 15min monologe of why I do a bad job and why he didn't wanted to pay me.

Also free to play also makes it way into realife. "Can you do XYZ for me?" "Yes, that makes XYZ €" "What? I thought you could do it for free, its not that much work and some student would do it for less or I can find an intern so you must do it also for free."

Luckely that is behind me....I hope...please let me find a job where I never, ever have to talk to customers again.

[ConanTheGamer]

Aidan Crenshaw, on 20 August 2019 - 09:46 PM, said:

https://mw5mercs.com/faq#question-4-3

Thanks!

[Wing Gundam Zero Custom]

So the game doesnt even come out until 2020?! That is some real gay *** ******** but coming back to this after a while and seeing this be among the notable news and top of forums does not surprise me. Probably nothing new MWO wise either not counting more mechs :/

[Eurystheus]

Wing Gundam Zero Custom, on 21 August 2019 - 07:02 PM, said:

So the game doesnt even come out until 2020?! That is some real gay *** ******** but coming back to this after a while and seeing this be among the notable news and top of forums does not surprise me. Probably nothing new MWO wise either not counting more mechs :/

No. December 10th, 2019.