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[Dee Eight]

while on one of my Tier 1 accounts... so the matchmaker is at least going down to tier 4 in forming teams, and likely down to tier 5 because the player with the cadet symbol hasn't even managed ten matches yet.

[The ImpIication]

You can be a cadet in T3, but yes its possible.

Also its 25 matches.

[Antares102]

Ari Gold, on 28 September 2019 - 06:06 AM, said:

You can be a cadet in T3, but yes its possible.

Also its 25 matches.

When I created my smurf account I took me 4 games to get to Tier 3 so it is defenitly possible if a new guy has a few good runs in the beginning.

[Dee Eight]

Antares102, on 28 September 2019 - 09:44 AM, said:

When I created my smurf account I took me 4 games to get to Tier 3 so it is defenitly possible if a new guy has a few good runs in the beginning.

That doesn't happen anymore. You no longer start in tier 4. Now every new account starts in tier 5. The first ten matches on my latest account created a week and a half ago I averaged over 400 match score per game, the first 14 were nine wins, It only moved me into the start of tier 4. I've had a couple dozen 1k+ damage matches with match scores over 500 and several in the 600s and 700s. In the current event alone I've done the 500+ score four times with that account and i've definitely dropped with some tier 1s. Its only half way thru the tier 4 bar at present and that's over 150 matches with an avg still over 300 match score and a kill ratio in excess of about 2.5 to 1.

[Willard Phule]

Happens more often than you think, due to population and an inadequate matchmaker to begin with. They've always had it set to ignore baseline match making rules in favor of dropping quicker.

24 players is 24 players sometimes.

[Unnatural Growth]

Old news. Almost Fake news. This has been a frequent occurrence for years. Despite what few comments PGI has had on the subject. The MM is turned off.

Nice that some folks are still making smurf accounts to punch newbies with.

Bragging rights?

[Zephrym]

Dee Eight, on 28 September 2019 - 10:24 AM, said:

That doesn't happen anymore. You no longer start in tier 4. Now every new account starts in tier 5.

My smurf account started in tier 4 post academy and during the cadet phase I reached tier 3.

[Brizna]

PGI has never denied this can happen. They stated MM should try to make games with players no more than 2 tier apart. But as always if MM has problems making matches it will release valves and become more permissive with ideal requirements for a match. In the context of dwindling population this, and other deviations, is to be expected and it's going to be happening more and more every month.

[Jackal Noble]

Zephrym, on 28 September 2019 - 10:56 AM, said:

My smurf account started in tier 4 post academy and during the cadet phase I reached tier 3.

This crapshow is two-fold, and yet no-one has even had the common sense to put two and two together.
Technically, PGI is not lying when they say a T1 won't meet a T4/5 because they geared the tier system to fill in the void by ushering/accelerating players that should be no means be in T3 or above matches. There ya have it.

Not saying your not good (as you very well may be, idk) I'm just saying that the system is very broken where it matters(ed) the most.

Edited by Jackal Noble, 28 September 2019 - 12:22 PM.

[Zephrym]

No points were missed Jackal. Just correcting an innacuracy in the arguement.

Edited by Zephrym, 28 September 2019 - 12:58 PM.

[Jackal Noble]

Roger, corrected my post. apologies for the brash reaction.

Edited by Jackal Noble, 28 September 2019 - 12:23 PM.

[JediPanther]

I just assumed cadets now are an alt.

[Novakaine]

[Burning2nd]

you losers with your alt accounts... guarding your digital pride lol

[Zephrym]

Burning2nd, on 28 September 2019 - 02:23 PM, said:

you losers with your alt accounts... guarding your digital pride lol

Training new players can be a real drag at times. lol

[Mister Glitchdragon]

Did you win?

[Tarl Cabot]

Mister Glitchdragon, on 28 September 2019 - 04:41 PM, said:

Did you win?

no.. did he carry the Cadet or did the Cadet carry him...

Also, PGI never made any clarifying statements about Tiers in MM with specific examples. If a Tier 1 is seeded, they should not have a Tier 4 in the group and vis versa. PGI never provided specifics of when the seeded player is a Tier 3 player...

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 28 September 2019 - 05:26 PM.

[Dee Eight]

Unnatural Growth, on 28 September 2019 - 10:42 AM, said:

Old news. Almost Fake news. This has been a frequent occurrence for years. Despite what few comments PGI has had on the subject. The MM is turned off.

Nice that some folks are still making smurf accounts to punch newbies with.

Bragging rights?

Actually testing to see how quickly I'd be matched to Tier 1s and how much MC can be acrued strictly through events. Also discovered some new "undocumented" features PGI is inflicting on the cadets that haven't been mentioned in patch notes such as the instant auto-ejection from matches when doing team damage with no ability to rejoin, bascially robbing you of your rewards for that match, and putting the team instantly down by one mech, possibly costing them a win also.

[Prototelis]

I made tier 3 within 25 matches on my alt account.

[Appogee]

The problem is that the matchmaker uses PSR - a number designed to keep increasing, and which has very little to do with actual player skill.

This is why we have so many "Tier 1" players whose average match score isn't even 250.

The whole discussion around "Tier 4 players dropping with Tier 1 players" is meaningless when so many of the Tier 1 players we get dropped with shouldn't even be in a genuine "Tier 1" skill tier in the first place.

Edited by Appogee, 28 September 2019 - 07:38 PM.