205 replies to this topic

[Horseman]

Rose, stop. Bad builds are still objectively bad builds. At this point you're doing nothing but spamming this thread with offtopic to assuage your own wounded pride.

Edited by Horseman, 16 December 2019 - 11:29 PM.

[Void Angel]

Rose; no one cares. You've been rebutted in detail - at this point it's just ego spam.

[Vxheous]

Void Angel, on 17 December 2019 - 02:28 AM, said:

Rose; no one cares. You've been rebutted in detail - at this point it's just ego spam.

550 damage ego spam

[Void Angel]

Vxheous, on 17 December 2019 - 06:29 AM, said:

550 damage ego spam

So ego. Such damages.

[Vxheous]

Void Angel, on 17 December 2019 - 11:16 AM, said:

So ego. Such damages.

But that matchscore, that triple AMS inflated matchscore, so good.

[Bowelhacker]

Stop feeding the ******* egotroll then. Just let him post to his heart's content and ignore him.

[Void Angel]

Well, the forums are slow, and uncontested error tends to spread.

[Rain Dark Sky]

you know the rules

[Blue Vermin]

Well, at least you didn't use racs...

Blue

[Rain Dark Sky]

It was embarrassing. Not worth posting.

I'm going back to rac5, rac2, 5xmpl, full ferro,

I ditched my AMS and forgot what engine I used, (265 light?) and some heat sinks, I may end up using a different engine, but I'm broke, and I just happened to have that one laying around.

[Rain Dark Sky]

My kit fox finally died horribly, so I'm running this build.

[Rain Dark Sky]

another meta disaster I felt ******** piloting it. Actually havign to AIM missiles? Are you KIDDING me?!??! I don't have a VR set up, its bargain basement around here.

[Rain Dark Sky]

This right here is where it's at though, just kind of hang out and wait till trouble gets close, then open up. AMS or BAP.

Choose Wisely.

Edited by CherokeeRose, 18 December 2019 - 07:47 PM.

[Vxheous]

CherokeeRose, on 18 December 2019 - 06:40 PM, said:

It was embarrassing. Not worth posting.

I'm going back to rac5, rac2, 5xmpl, full ferro,

I ditched my AMS and forgot what engine I used, (265 light?) and some heat sinks, I may end up using a different engine, but I'm broke, and I just happened to have that one laying around.

This is to help you out, but why are you using ferro over endo? Endo provides a much higher weight savings compared to ferro, so if you have to only choose one, it should always be endo. If you're using ferro because you think it adds more armor....it doesn't. Armor values are exactly the same regardless of whether it is standard or ferro.

[Horseman]

CherokeeRose, on 18 December 2019 - 07:28 PM, said:

another meta disaster

Poorly conceived attempt to ape meta, but not actually meta.

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I felt ******** piloting it.

That's a you problem.

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Actually havign to AIM missiles? Are you KIDDING me?!??!

There's nothing wrong with having to manually aim your missiles.

Disadvantages:

• You have to aim

Advantages:

• Lighter launchers (even if you add Artemis)
  
• No need for TAG or BAP
  
• More missiles per salvo (due to higher ghost heat cap)
  
• More damage per missile
  
• More focused damage (you'll want to install Artemis BTW - a 30% reduction in spread radius translates to a 50% reduction in actual spread area)
  
• The ability to target specific components and pop enemy mechs quickly
  
• More of your (and your team's) precious armor saved because you're making more efficient, faster kills instead of farming damage while your mech is being torn to pieces.
  
• Faster rate of fire (if Clan SRMs vs Clan Streaks)
  
• No need to get a target lock - you can fire "from the hip" at sudden new contacts (thank you @Void Angel)

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I don't have a VR set up

Neither do I. VR has nothing to do with your ability to aim and never did.

Edited by Horseman, 19 December 2019 - 06:05 AM.

[Void Angel]

Don't forget the faster rate of fire and target acquisition - assuming someone else isn't using their armor so you can lock on the streaks.

[Horseman]

Void Angel, on 19 December 2019 - 12:55 AM, said:

Don't forget the faster rate of fire and target acquisition - assuming someone else isn't using their armor so you can lock on the streaks

The ROF applies to Clan Streaks, but IS Streaks have basically same cooldown as IS SRMs. You're 100% right about target acquisition, tho.

[Void Angel]

Huh, so it is - must be getting old.

[MOBAjobg]

Vxheous, on 18 December 2019 - 07:40 PM, said:

This is to help you out, but why are you using ferro over endo? Endo provides a much higher weight savings compared to ferro, so if you have to only choose one, it should always be endo. If you're using ferro because you think it adds more armor....it doesn't. Armor values are exactly the same regardless of whether it is standard or ferro.

Sifu, thanks for the teachings. I've learn much on this aspect which I didn't bother to think about.

[Horseman]

The "Ferro = more armor" thing is a very common misconception among players less versed with the setting's tech.