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#101 sinba1ew

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 03:13 PM

View PostNeirSolon, on 28 December 2019 - 03:12 PM, said:

Stealth is meme trash


meaby it is not OP...at least not to the point it breaks game... but it is nice at times...
Tho You are tight...Things IS has are not too strong

#102 K O Z A K

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 03:14 PM

the amount of starchiness in this thread is next level, I'm glad HHoD is taking on new players, but you people need to explain to them why they're losing, not just tell them "clam op"

#103 SneekiBreeki

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 03:19 PM

>HHoD complaining about Lasvom, thinking that it's still the boogeyman

AAAAAAAAAY LMAO we are way past 2017, DPS trumps laserboats nowadays and this is reflected by everybody and their dogs bringing in dakka Madcats, Fafnirs, Annihilators, Blood Asps and more.

EDIT: What's even more laughable is the fact that you guys are calling for PGI to nerf clans cuz "HURRHURR the game might die", well guess what did Russ say back in may?

Game is basically dead and PGI doesn't care about it anymore.

Edited by SneekiBreeki, 28 December 2019 - 03:22 PM.


#104 Nightbird

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 03:20 PM

But it is easier to finger others than improve oneself, and some have made this into an art form.

#105 SneekiBreeki

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 03:26 PM

Ikr NB, learning to properly play a game as easy as this requires way too much effort.

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Wait, you guys aren't crying because of yesterday's ***-whooping handed to you by the EVIL premade running SPL-ER Micro Gargles and Lasvom Executioners... right?

Edited by SneekiBreeki, 28 December 2019 - 03:34 PM.


#106 Prototelis

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 03:38 PM

Still tho;

Saying IS can't do long range trade as well as clans is 100% ********.

Most of the best ER large trade mechs ARE IS lol

Legit tho, IS mechs NSR way better if thats your flavor. Stop picking trash mechs for NSR.

Edited by Prototelis, 28 December 2019 - 03:38 PM.


#107 SneekiBreeki

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 03:40 PM

>IS Can't do long range trading against Clans
*LAUGHS IN ERLL ECM STALKER*

#108 Novakaine

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 03:54 PM

You guys are simply the worst.
You simply want change the game so you and you know who you are.
Have every single advantage.
You just want to take away the "objectives" so it's basic a brawl across the board.
Correct me if I'm wrong, buts that's what quick play is for am I wrong.
And then sit back and laugh and mock those who at least try to help new players.
Only to cry foul when you get beat by a team playing the "objectives".
As I said before you people are the worst.
And have helped make faction play the wasteland that it is today.
PGI aside.
But I'm sure in your collective smugness it will never occur to you.

Edited by Novakaine, 28 December 2019 - 03:55 PM.


#109 MisterSomaru

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 03:58 PM

View PostNovakaine, on 28 December 2019 - 03:54 PM, said:

You guys are simply the worst.
You simply want change the game so you and you know who you are.
Have every single advantage.
You just want to take away the "objectives" so it's basic a brawl across the board.
Correct me if I'm wrong, buts that's what quick play is for am I wrong.
And then sit back and laugh and mock those who at least try to help new players.
Only to cry foul when you get beat by a team playing the "objectives".
As I said before you people are the worst.
And have helped make faction play the wasteland that it is today.
PGI aside.
But I'm sure in your collective smugness it will never occur to you.

I would report you to protective services for trying to help people. I've seen your builds. I know how you play. it's almost as bad as Humble Dexter. Sit.

#110 SneekiBreeki

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 03:59 PM

Oh hey, it's mr. "HAX are abound in here today"!

We don't want changes to be made to the game for the sake of having "advantages", we already have all the advantages whenever we drop against you guys.

Also "objectives" are a lie, this game is nothing but deathmatch with some pretend secondary objective, nothing more.

>Help new players: I'm currently feeling extremely sorry for whatever poor soul you're teaching bad habits and false beliefs to.

#111 MisterSomaru

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 04:00 PM

View PostSneekiBreeki, on 28 December 2019 - 03:59 PM, said:

Oh hey, it's mr. "HAX are abound in here today"!

We don't want changes to be made to the game for the sake of having "advantages", we already have all the advantages whenever we drop against you guys.

Also "objectives" are a lie, this game is nothing but deathmatch with some pretend secondary objective, nothing more.

>Help new players: I'm currently feeling extremely sorry for whatever poor soul you're teaching bad habits and false beliefs to.

I wonder if these guys are the source of all the sub 500 damage puggies in faction?

#112 Daidachi

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 04:01 PM

View PostNovakaine, on 28 December 2019 - 03:54 PM, said:

You guys are simply the worst.
You simply want change the game so you and you know who you are.
Have every single advantage.
You just want to take away the "objectives" so it's basic a brawl across the board.
Correct me if I'm wrong, buts that's what quick play is for am I wrong.
And then sit back and laugh and mock those who at least try to help new players.
Only to cry foul when you get beat by a team playing the "objectives".
As I said before you people are the worst.
And have helped make faction play the wasteland that it is today.
PGI aside.
But I'm sure in your collective smugness it will never occur to you.


Your opinion is frankly, utterly irrelevant - because you are an active handicap to your team.

You may sit there and think 'I'll play however I want to because I want to have fun' - the simple fact is that doing that in a group of players who understand that's what you're doing and have agreed to it is perfectly fine.

Yet you insist on playing exclusively your way no matter whether you are on a team, or dropping with pugs. Somehow your fun is worth more than theirs, and they should adapt to match your chosen playstyle, rather than the other way around.

I don't often comment here anymore, but your comment of ''you guys are the worst' and trying to focus blame on anyone but yourself is delusion of the grandest order.

I'm sure you have many redeeming characteristics - and someday, someone will find one.

#113 sinba1ew

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 04:03 PM

View PostPrototelis, on 28 December 2019 - 03:38 PM, said:

Still tho;

Saying IS can't do long range trade as well as clans is 100% ********.

Most of the best ER large trade mechs ARE IS lol

Legit tho, IS mechs NSR way better if thats your flavor. Stop picking trash mechs for NSR.


claims IS has better range after number metanalaysys proving otherwise...
Clan goes snipe without a fail

Question...why would clan go snipe if IS would be better at it?


Where are those long range boats You sing ballads about?

View PostSneekiBreeki, on 28 December 2019 - 03:40 PM, said:

>IS Can't do long range trading against Clans
*LAUGHS IN ERLL ECM STALKER*


Thats finally a mech name... tho it still is less range than claners... so i would say back to my eariler saying.... it is good up to its optimal range... but you do more tons for it and clan can just bring more of it

+clan gets more heat sinks for same space & has free tonage from weapons & XL's

#114 Prototelis

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 04:04 PM

View Postsinba1ew, on 28 December 2019 - 04:01 PM, said:

claims IS has better range after number metanalaysys proving otherwise...



Ignores 10% range bonus on some IS mechs, bigger alphas, lower exposure, armor bonuses, lower heat, lower duration.

Ignores arguably best AC2 boat in game.

Ignores most armored mechs in game

only NSRs

Refuses to trade on maps that favor trading

Doesn't understand game doesn't have sniping, it's trading.

Edited by Prototelis, 28 December 2019 - 04:07 PM.


#115 MisterSomaru

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 04:04 PM

View Postsinba1ew, on 28 December 2019 - 04:03 PM, said:

claims IS has better range after number metanalaysys proving otherwise...
Clan goes snipe without a fail

Question...why would clan go snipe if IS would be better at it?


Where are those long range boats You sing ballads about?



Thats finally a mech name... tho it still is less range than claners... so i would say back to my eariler saying.... it is good up to its optimal range... but you do more tons for it and clan can just bring more of it

+clan gets more heat sinks for same space & has free tonage from weapons & XL's

because only morons completely ignore how to play a map with long sight lines.

#116 SneekiBreeki

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 04:06 PM

Just as Somaru implied, use terrain to close up the distance and abuse the absurdly high mounts. EZ

#117 sinba1ew

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 04:09 PM

View PostDaidachi, on 28 December 2019 - 04:01 PM, said:


Your opinion is frankly, utterly irrelevant - because you are an active handicap to your team.

You may sit there and think 'I'll play however I want to because I want to have fun' - the simple fact is that doing that in a group of players who understand that's what you're doing and have agreed to it is perfectly fine.

Yet you insist on playing exclusively your way no matter whether you are on a team, or dropping with pugs. Somehow your fun is worth more than theirs, and they should adapt to match your chosen playstyle, rather than the other way around.

I don't often comment here anymore, but your comment of ''you guys are the worst' and trying to focus blame on anyone but yourself is delusion of the grandest order.

I'm sure you have many redeeming characteristics - and someday, someone will find one.


Not sure what You are saying cause on 1 side you bring up quote about em wanting objective to stay in 1 way and on other hand say guys need to adapt...

Tho :
Problem currently seems mostly to circle around clan being not really played, and than most IS players growing annoyed at things along with clan players cause noone can find match .... i say...make clan more fun to play and more engaging...not change all types of match from objective to kill all enemies....that would make things more boring

#118 Kurlon

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 04:10 PM

If you only play IS with certain groups, you'll never have an opportunity to SEE IS trading in action. As someone who trades horribly, Clan or IS I feel bad for my team when it's called for 'cause I'm not holding up my portion of the dropship but I've got Clan and IS trading mechs in multiple tonnages ready should it be asked of me.

RE PvE (Objective) vs PvP: 'Winning' FP hasn't meant anything in a long time. There's no planets really up for grabs, and if you do 'secure' one no one cares. Most players dropping MWO FP are looking to fight against other players, not window dressing alternative goals dropped on the game to pretend there is more depth to it. Now that MW5 is out, PvE has a supported home and is needed even LESS in MWO. Give me a fully fleshed out FP in MWO with consequences and I'll support drop objectives, otherwise yeah, I want PvP with limited respawns for FP.

Edited by Kurlon, 28 December 2019 - 04:14 PM.


#119 MisterSomaru

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 04:11 PM

View Postsinba1ew, on 28 December 2019 - 04:09 PM, said:

Not sure what You are saying cause on 1 side you bring up quote about em wanting objective to stay in 1 way and on other hand say guys need to adapt...

Tho :
Problem currently seems mostly to circle around clan being not really played, and than most IS players growing annoyed at things along with clan players cause noone can find match .... i say...make clan more fun to play and more engaging...not change all types of match from objective to kill all enemies....that would make things more boring

clan mechs need more armor and agility, srm spread needs to be reduced. oh, and playerbase needs to learn how to play. and I mean really play, not whatever it is you guys teach.

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 04:13 PM

View Postsinba1ew, on 28 December 2019 - 04:09 PM, said:

i say...make clan more fun to play and more engaging...


Can't have that, Mr. Chris Lowery AKA Spiral Face from CGBI decreed that everything Clan must be boring AF and thus took away most of their former mobility, cSPL damage, the Gauss-PPC combo (which would've benefitted some IS mechs as well) and went on to nerf cSRMs.

Not only that but he decided to apply a completely uncalled for and quite stupid nerf to cXL engines in the form of the heatspike on ST loss, thus it being called "getting Chris'd" nowadays.



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