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[MisterSomaru]

Ignatius Audene, on 03 January 2020 - 02:32 AM, said:

A: no one is against an anticheat programm. But u say it is the biggest problem in this game. That is like a haaaaaaax everywhere call.

B: PGI is Screening the data and banning people. Since the last wave they are just not talking about bans.

C: COC

D: game on maintainance mode

Maintenence mode and MW5 is the only reason we can quote statistics and facts these days.

[Koniving]

Isaiah Kell, on 03 January 2020 - 01:29 AM, said:

Am i simply asking too much?

While cheating is not impossible...
This game runs on a server authority for everything from movement and shooting down to zooming (you can verify that your client has to request permission to zoom by artificially inflating your ping with downloads and then try to zoom in-game. That delay and subsequent slow reaction time is the delay of the client requesting permission for most of the things you're doing, which is why weapons can take several seconds to fire after clicking, the same for speed adjustments, turning, and even jumpjets.

This makes most (not all, but most) impossible. They also removed absolute position information necessary for certain kinds of cheating with regards to the location of enemies... limiting the potential cheats to just a few, and from there less than 200 people have been banned for cheating so far as I know, with 26 of them being 2-3 years ago and another 64 in 2015 (before said position information was removed). PGI has its own detection tools (I know for a fact that they also know when you're recording a game, it's how I lost something).

Just because there isn't an anti-cheat system pumping its logo for every cheater to know exactly what they need to do to circumvent it doesn't mean there isn't one in place.

Edited by Koniving, 03 January 2020 - 03:05 AM.

[Prototelis]

When even koniving dunks on you

[Peter2k]

Plenty of problems left to tackle that would actually make a difference, though at this stage, maybe not

Koniving, on 03 January 2020 - 03:02 AM, said:

While cheating is not impossible...
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I remember when it came first up years ago, was bots aiming for you
Wonder if this game that has, let's say fallen out of favour, is worth 20 bucks a month for cheating

Prototelis, on 03 January 2020 - 03:30 AM, said:

When even koniving dunks on you

I have to say this made me chuckle


Kinda missing Mudhutwarrior running rampant, screaming sync drops, sync drops

Edited by Peter2k, 03 January 2020 - 04:52 AM.

[Vellron2005]

I've been speaking about anti-cheating and "measures" against players and even some entire units for years now..

All it's gotten me is one step away from a permanent ban by PGI.

You go OP! Carry on the torch..

[denAirwalkerrr]

Vellron2005, on 03 January 2020 - 05:45 AM, said:

I've been speaking about anti-cheating and "measures" against players and even some entire units for years now..

All it's gotten me is one step away from a permanent ban by PGI.

You go OP! Carry on the torch..

denAirwalkerrr, on 03 January 2020 - 01:28 AM, said:

P.S. It's almost if talking **** out of your *** about cheats with no proof of people actually doing it is against game TOS.

Edited by denAirwalkerrr, 03 January 2020 - 05:54 AM.

[John Bronco]

I oppose cheating.

But gotta say, I've played about 500 games of Siege over the last year and I can count on one hand the number of times I suspected a cheater.

So it might happen, just a little, but it certainly isn't material.

And it certainly isn't the reason HHOD loses so much.

Edited by BlaizerP, 03 January 2020 - 06:23 AM.

[Fherot]

Hi,

What are the signs of someone cheating that I can look out for?

Can you list some examples that have confirmed your suspicions?

I would like to be better equipped to reaffirm my own abilities by knowing someone who beats me was actually cheating.

Thanks

[Nightbird]

"It's them, not us"

[Ignatius Audene]

My personal feeling. The number of cheaters in this game is near 0.
So if someones beats u he is prob just better.
If u see something strange, it is mostly just good aim (aka low mouse sense) or situational awareness.

[WarHippy]

Isaiah Kell, on 03 January 2020 - 12:31 AM, said:

Can we stop with the systematic denial of the biggest problem in this game? You lose regular players if you allow one cheat to pass through without any countermeasures whatsoever. This game could come back from the dead if word got out that there was a decent anti-cheat script in the game to shut down Wall Hacks (WH) and Aim-Bots (AB).

If we could just get some more integrity here, more people would come back to the game and buy mech packs.

This game has a lot of problems and cheating has never been one from all I have seen since the very beginning. Has it happened? Yes, but it has always been small scale and had very little impact. Sure, we could implement anti cheat software but it isn't going to bring anyone back because the people that have left have done so for a multitude of reasons and cheats is way down on the list if on the list at all.

[Verilligo]

You can accuse PGI of a lot of different things. But being sluggish to resort to nuclear options when it comes to dealing with cheaters is not one of them. Also, implementing additional anti-cheat software is NOT a simple matter. So yes, you are asking for too much, especially for a game that is on maintenance mode.

[PhoenixFire55]

Playing this game for 7+ years I gotta say two things.

First is that I've personally witnessed exactly one sure case of cheating in-game. Guy has been banned 2 days afterwards. Seen some footage of other cases over the years as well, but not first-hand.

Second, if for every time I got accused of cheating I'd been given a dollar, I'd be filthy rich by now.

So based on one I can surely say that either there are extremely few cheaters in this game, or cheating simply doesn't allow you to get into tier 1 matches (even given T1 being what it is). Either way it means, its not a problem at all, let alone "the biggest problem this game has".

And based on two, I can surely say that there are lots of clueless butthurt baddies, who would like to see everyone better than them banned rather than ... ya know ... learn to play. That very well might be "the biggest problem this game has" since open beta, but then again, you can't fix stupid.

[K O Z A K]

I agree, something should be done about auto-aim hacks: streaks, atms, lrms. Especially lrms, they're auto-aim and wall-hack all in one

Prototelis, on 03 January 2020 - 03:30 AM, said:

When even koniving dunks on you

I can't take him seriously without some 5 year old videos where he plays terribly

[Brauer]

This discussion reminds me of Clark's Third Law, except instead of sufficiently advanced technology appearing to be magic it's sufficiently high skill.

[VonBruinwald]

Fherot, on 03 January 2020 - 06:44 AM, said:

Hi,

What are the signs of someone cheating that I can look out for?

Can you list some examples that have confirmed your suspicions?

I would like to be better equipped to reaffirm my own abilities by knowing someone who beats me was actually cheating.

Thanks

As a general rule of thumb:

If someone beats you they're either a cheater, sync-dropper or try-hard.

[draiocht]

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