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#101 Dionnsai

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Posted 25 January 2020 - 05:38 AM

View PostKroete, on 24 January 2020 - 02:04 AM, said:

Its about the trajectorys, lost of players in lots of games dont like lrms, grenades, grenadelauchers or mortas, because they force the players to think 3-dimensional.


Kroete, you made this exact statement above, implying that somehow using lrms requires "3-D Thinking", when that is absurd. This is what I was replying to.

Your comparison here was inaccurate as well. Grenades and mortars in games typically require the player to AIM, which yes requires that they think in 3-D. LRMS do not require anything other than putting the box in the circle and pushing a button.

Yes, occasionally there are cover mechanics to consider, but on the maps lurmers favor, like polar and caustic, those considerations are minimal because the cover is only occasionally a problem.

Edited by Dionnsai, 25 January 2020 - 05:46 AM.


#102 Kroete

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Posted 25 January 2020 - 07:06 AM

View PostDionnsai, on 25 January 2020 - 05:38 AM, said:


Kroete, you made this exact statement above, implying that somehow using lrms requires "3-D Thinking", when that is absurd. This is what I was replying to.

I talked about trajectorys, lrms were an example like others i used, just reread the 4 first words you qouted.

And you also claimed, in the end of your "absurd post", that you need it for lrms on the most maps too. ;)

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Posted 25 January 2020 - 07:10 AM

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#104 Dionnsai

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Posted 25 January 2020 - 11:03 AM

View PostKroete, on 25 January 2020 - 07:06 AM, said:

I talked about trajectorys, lrms were an example like others i used, just reread the 4 first words you qouted.

And you also claimed, in the end of your "absurd post", that you need it for lrms on the most maps too. Posted Image


As you have trouble with basic spelling, I doubt we can continue to circle each other logically and get anywhere, so I'll just say this: "come fight me bro!"

Edited by Dionnsai, 25 January 2020 - 11:04 AM.


#105 Prototelis

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Posted 25 January 2020 - 11:06 AM

lol, lrms are 3d chess!

#106 justcallme A S H

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Posted 25 January 2020 - 08:33 PM

The LRMs are 3D chess argument... Again?

Lol.

#107 Kroete

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Posted 26 January 2020 - 01:59 AM

View PostDionnsai, on 25 January 2020 - 11:03 AM, said:

As you have trouble with basic spelling, I doubt we can continue to circle each other logically and get anywhere, so I'll just say this: "come fight me bro!"

No arguments just personal attacks?
Wenn Du keinen richtigen Argument mehr hast und anfängst über Rechtschreibung zu reden,
bist Du ein armer Wicht, der meine Zeit nicht wert ist.

View PostPrototelis, on 25 January 2020 - 11:06 AM, said:

lol, lrms are 3d chess!

Direct fire = is there a block or not
indirect = is there a block and is it high enough or not
So yes, its a little more then just point and click. Posted Image

Talking about it as 3d chess shows clearly that you are totaly overtaxed.
Did you ever played 3d chess or even normal chess?
Seems not, if you want to compare it with a simple shooter, that even a mouthbreather can play.

Edited by Kroete, 26 January 2020 - 02:10 AM.


#108 AndiMech

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Posted 26 January 2020 - 05:01 AM

View PostKroete, on 26 January 2020 - 01:59 AM, said:

No arguments just personal attacks?
Wenn Du keinen richtigen Argument mehr hast und anfängst über Rechtschreibung zu reden,
bist Du ein armer Wicht, der meine Zeit nicht wert ist.

Bei solche Haarspaltereia merkt ma: Du bisch einfach n armseliger Tageslichtprojekorträger, der in dr schul zu oft verschlaga worra isch...

View PostKroete, on 26 January 2020 - 01:59 AM, said:

Direct fire = is there a block or not
indirect = is there a block and is it high enough or not
So yes, its a little more then just point and click. Posted Image

Talking about it as 3d chess shows clearly that you are totaly overtaxed.
Did you ever played 3d chess or even normal chess?
Seems not, if you want to compare it with a simple shooter, that even a mouthbreather can play.

You are totally right, there a many things, that can't be achieved without skill:
- like a dog taking a ****, he has to have the skill to lift his leg BEFORE
- or entering a building, you have to have the skill to open the door BEFORE... otherwise you slam into it...
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Edited by AndiMech, 26 January 2020 - 05:02 AM.


#109 BlaizerP

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Posted 26 January 2020 - 07:07 AM

View PostKroete, on 26 January 2020 - 01:59 AM, said:


So yes, its a little more then just point and click. Posted Image




Life, in general, must be very difficult for you.

#110 Dionnsai

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Posted 26 January 2020 - 08:31 AM

View PostKroete, on 26 January 2020 - 01:59 AM, said:

No arguments just personal attacks?


You have my arguments, they are going in circles. Come fight me and show that your arguments are correct in practice.

View PostAndiMech, on 26 January 2020 - 05:01 AM, said:

Bei solche Haarspaltereia merkt ma: Du bisch einfach n armseliger Tageslichtprojekorträger, der in dr schul zu oft verschlaga worra isch...


You think he did well in/finished school? Posted Image

Edited by Dionnsai, 26 January 2020 - 08:45 AM.


#111 Dionnsai

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Posted 26 January 2020 - 08:37 AM

View PostKroete, on 26 January 2020 - 01:59 AM, said:

Seems not, if you want to compare it with a simple shooter, that even a mouthbreather can play.


This is exactly what we're talking about, the mouthbreathers who don't even scratch the surface of potential in this game because all they know are lock-on weapons.

There is a depth of piloting ability and thought that no "mouthbreathing lurmer" will ever reach because their weapons cannot be used in a deliberate tactical way. A lurmer doesn't look at a mech and think things like "that torso is a weak point, so I will remove it first". He does not remove the arms from a Jaegermech or a MKII-B to deprive them of the ability to engage at all. He just blindly lobs the lurms at a target that someone else took the risk to provide him and feels proud about his achievement.

You know what happens to lurmers who are forced into 1v1 engagements without a team to carry them? Go look up the "skilled lurmers" battle records in Solaris. It shows.
You have no arguments which can trump the raw numbers. Lurmers do not earn kills. Lurmers do not win matches.

Yes, "any mouthbreather" can play MWO. He won't be good at it.

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Edited by Dionnsai, 26 January 2020 - 08:50 AM.


#112 justcallme A S H

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Posted 26 January 2020 - 12:10 PM

Dumpster is really 60-116?


LOL

#113 Prototelis

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Posted 26 January 2020 - 12:16 PM

Have you ever noticed that people moderately skilled in all areas are still more skilled in auto-aim than skilled lrmers?

#114 The Jewce Iz Loose

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Posted 26 January 2020 - 02:19 PM

View Postjustcallme A S H, on 26 January 2020 - 12:10 PM, said:

Dumpster is really 60-116?


LOL


Wait a minute there, any legit leaderboard would have The Dumpster at the top

View PostHumble Dexter, on 25 December 2019 - 06:23 PM, said:

There's a simple way to reward risk taking despite the broken matchmaking system, that would have the side effect of projecting me straight to the top of just about any kind of legitimate leaderboard, while sending primo wannabes straight to the bottom...
But since MWO is in sleep mode, I'll wait till PGI wakes up next year to suggest it... so they can actively ignore it as usual, instead of only passively ignoring it this time Posted Image

Edited by The Jewce Iz Loose, 26 January 2020 - 02:19 PM.


#115 Kroete

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Posted 26 January 2020 - 03:29 PM

View PostDionnsai, on 26 January 2020 - 08:37 AM, said:


This is exactly what we're talking about, the mouthbreathers who don't even scratch the surface of potential in this game because all they know are lock-on weapons.

More worse, some dont even use the potential of lrms by just staying back and only firing indirect.

View PostDionnsai, on 26 January 2020 - 08:37 AM, said:

You know what happens to lurmers who are forced into 1v1 engagements without a team to carry them? Go look up the "skilled lurmers" battle records in Solaris. It shows.

LRMS in solaris? Why?

View PostDionnsai, on 26 January 2020 - 08:37 AM, said:

You have no arguments which can trump the raw numbers. Lurmers do not earn kills. Lurmers do not win matches.

Still having a posivite kd and wl with mostly lockon weapons, not the best, but ok for someone whos playing mostly drugged and still having problems after a stroke.

View PostAndiMech, on 26 January 2020 - 05:01 AM, said:

Tageslichtprojekorträger

Bei uns standen die Dinger auf einem Wagen in der Klassenzimmerecke oder waren im Lehrertisch eingelassen.
Den Tafelschwamm mußtet Ihr Euch aber nicht mit der Nachbarklasse teilen?

#116 Bowelhacker

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Posted 26 January 2020 - 07:39 PM

Come on, let's not keep piling on him just because of his lurm use. I was in a match against him the other day and he was using ATMs.

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Posted 31 January 2020 - 09:30 AM

If you use your team mates to activate the in direct fire feature (2nd line of Battle), its kinda like 3D chess. Posted Image





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