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[General Solo]

This is not as bad as it sounds
Let them come I say and discover some assault mech pilots can aim.
Because to play a sniper well you need to aim guid, unless your a missile sniper maybe. Yes, So one light shouldn't be a problem.

If some assault pilots can't aim guid this does not apply to them.

The second thing is that the more mechs they send to deal with the 800+ metre sniper assualt mech the more they split their team. (Similar to people going basement on HPG).

It takes time to get to the 800+metre assault sniper during which its assailants are unavailable to the main enemy force.
So if your team is aware of this they can press their numbers advantage.

For example 1 enemy sends two mechs to deal with sniper mech, for sniper mech its 2 v1 for the main force its 10 v 11, time to press numbers advantage some way.

The more mechs they send to deal with the sniper the bigger the numbers advantage

For example 2 enemy sends Lance of mechs to deal with sniper mech, for sniper mech its 4 v1 for the main force its 8 v 11, time to press numbers advantage some way.

Once they main force is crushed the friendly main force can then help the sniper out, hopefully they are still alive.

So as an assault pilot I know this can happen.
So what to do?
Make it expensive to the enemy coming for you. Buy and stall for time.

Best is to get a quick kill with your assualt weapons.
This usually make the band after you hesitate during which time you can do a uav and maybe another kill.

You musty be frosty, all that matters so putting the cross on a light mech and persuading it to go way.
When they get close reverse counter turning is what I use, timing the turn with their weapon cool down to protect your back.
I use 11or 12 back armour as some dudes specialise in taking out your heavy weapon from the back in about 3 seconds flat.

Did I mention spread that damage all over your big assualt sniper and buy time.
Running at this time will just get you shoot in the back with zero damage. so turn/reverse and Fight!

If the team is clued up they will crush the main force and depending on them and you, maybe even save your big robot but before the end.

If the team doesn't get it and you lose, well that was probably gonna happen any way and you drew the short straw that time.

Because

They don't always send mechs the 800+ metre assault mechs way.

The enemy may also possess long range weapons and simply counter trade the sniper, best trader wins.
And this often helps if only by dividing the enemies attention.

But mostly the enemy ignores the sniper more or less providing the team with free high precision shots, over watch and map control.

So the sniper is definitely not one dimensional
You have a plan A, B, C .......

Edited by OZHomerOZ, 05 April 2020 - 08:07 PM.

[Dr Cara Carcass]

OmniFail, on 31 March 2020 - 02:26 AM, said:

I don't know Ash maybe their evolving. Maybe their becoming pro armor sharing snipers. There are lots of gauss and ppc builds represented in the top tiers of Grimmechs. They are the pro builds.


Right?

The real broken record was the cry babies in the community crying about Lurms due to their inability to bring AMS or kill spotters. When PGI noticed player numbers dropping they looked at the forums and determined that it was because of the Lurms because all the Lurms posts. So they went nuts with the Lurms nerfs.

But, but in hindsight we now know it wasn't the Lurms it was the elitists in group play that were the driving factor for dropping player numbers. Just look at the state of group play now.

Where did players go? Why did they leave?

CROATOAN

Well as the username says.... Fail on all accounts.

[Brauer]

Recently I've dropped in FW with lurms with some friends. Only dropped less than 1k once. Averaged probably 1250 in my lrm mech, dropped 1700 once. I have nearly always run out of ammo and ejected my lrm mechs. In all drops where we took lrms we dominated the enemy except one where we got counter-picked two waves in a row (still a W). Even took them to siege attack with good results once. Also, each time it took minimal effort and would have required that I took more risks and concentrate more for similar results with non-lock-ons. This was on IS and clan-side.

But LRMs are underpowered?

Edited by Brauer, 06 April 2020 - 10:41 AM.

[HammerMaster]

FRAGTAST1C, on 05 April 2020 - 05:46 PM, said:

You've got that backwards. It's the eejits who complain about others instead of worrying about their own shortcomings that need to be moderated. If PGI had done this from the start, the population would still be alive since they could play with friends, the mechs and weapons would still be good instead of catering to people who keep saying, "That's OP!", "I didn't see that laser taking my ST off. Lasers OP" and other bs like that.

I'll have to agree with some of this being the problem. They should have stood ground and not catered to anyone. The flip flops damaged this IP.

[Zirconium Kaze]

Tesunie, on 04 April 2020 - 04:52 PM, said:

So says the person who intentionally shot a teammate in another linked video above, and then insulted the player simply because of the build they brought. Didn't matter if they did well in it or not that match, you already made your mind up about them before an engagement even happened...

But go right on ahead.

The officer was just doing his duty. If no one else enforces the law, who will? You sound like you deserved to be shot in the leg.

[Swamp Ass MkII]

Ok, snipe spamming. Yes, I hate it. Getting better at it, but still hate it. I am one who likes medium range. C ml, ATM-9's LOS only, C-Streak 6, and have a freaking blast. It fun moving about in what is a slow mech, and yeah, I get hit, but when I close for the kill of that pesky sniper, even if I die, I get this sense of satisfaction.

The Snipers I am learning to really hate are the dam damn Urbie's..

[Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie]

Swamp *** MkII, on 10 April 2020 - 09:05 AM, said:

Ok, snipe spamming. Yes, I hate it. Getting better at it, but still hate it. I am one who likes medium range. C ml, ATM-9's LOS only, C-Streak 6, and have a freaking blast. It fun moving about in what is a slow mech, and yeah, I get hit, but when I close for the kill of that pesky sniper, even if I die, I get this sense of satisfaction.

The Snipers I am learning to really hate are the dam damn Urbie's..

yeah, cause if there's one thing Urbies excel in it's sniping ..
eh..

waitaminute..!!!


since you seem to be new to the game, here some good meant advice:
- Urbies are Gods amongst men and mechs alike, but they aren't snipers.
- wanna get better at this game? ditch the lock-on-cr*p.

[FRAGTAST1C]

Swamp *** MkII, on 10 April 2020 - 09:05 AM, said:

Ok, snipe spamming. Yes, I hate it. Getting better at it, but still hate it. I am one who likes medium range. C ml, ATM-9's LOS only, C-Streak 6, and have a freaking blast. It fun moving about in what is a slow mech, and yeah, I get hit, but when I close for the kill of that pesky sniper, even if I die, I get this sense of satisfaction.

The Snipers I am learning to really hate are the dam damn Urbie's..

Try MRMs, MPLs, dakka and fast brawlers like Orion IIC, Gargoyle, Black Knights and you'll like medium range more. Streaks and ATMs are terrible compared to those.

[MTier Slayed Up]

Michelle Branch, on 02 April 2020 - 10:09 PM, said:

A. The best team player I can get is the guy that does above 300 damage and can kill something. If you're taking an AMS kit fox with one ERL, I'd rather have you run into the enemy team and be a damage sponge and hopefully be a long enough distraction for others to be useful. I love these types of arguments. "Raaah! I'm a support mech!" No, you're next to useless.

I really need to emphasize this after witnessing a piranha with just 1 flamer and a buttload of AMS wanted to tell me he was useful.

He did 6 damage with like 150 MS.

Shoot me.

[jjm1]

Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie, on 10 April 2020 - 09:48 AM, said:

- Urbies are Gods amongst men and mechs alike, but they aren't snipers.

Wait a minute. An Urbie with 2x ER-Ls and 4x MGs is one of my best snipers and infuriating to play against because its profile is like a pebble on a ridge.

[Appogee]

"Snipe Spam"...?!

LOL. Just, LOL.

I look forward to the next time you're killed by SRMs and MGs. Then we can hear all about "Brawl Spam".

I think you already did "AMS Spam", a while back, right?

Edited by Appogee, 10 April 2020 - 11:15 PM.

[Vellron2005]

Appogee, on 10 April 2020 - 11:12 PM, said:

I think you already did "AMS Spam", a while back, right?

Don't even get me started on AMS spam and how OP the 4AMS corsair is

[VonBruinwald]

Vellron2005, on 11 April 2020 - 05:25 AM, said:

Don't even get me started on AMS spam and how OP the 4AMS corsair is

Quad LAMS PIR-A is better, can reposition to cover teammates faster.

[Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie]

Vellron2005, on 11 April 2020 - 05:25 AM, said:

Don't even get me started on AMS spam and how OP the 4AMS corsair is

VonBruinwald, on 11 April 2020 - 08:34 AM, said:

Quad LAMS PIR-A is better, can reposition to cover teammates faster.

*le sigh*

[Vellron2005]

VonBruinwald, on 11 April 2020 - 08:34 AM, said:

Quad LAMS PIR-A is better, can reposition to cover teammates faster.

And it's not OP as the corsair is, because It can't take so much punishment and carry 2 Gauss riffles while doing it..

That mech is just ridiculous.. But it's sooooo sweet to NARC it and then watch is melt helplessly under a hailstorm of LRM <3

[FRAGTAST1C]

Vellron2005, on 14 April 2020 - 12:14 AM, said:

And it's not OP as the corsair is, because It can't take so much punishment and carry 2 Gauss riffles while doing it..

It's quite clear that you don't know what "OP" means.

[Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie]

FRAGTAST1C, on 14 April 2020 - 01:44 AM, said:

It's quite clear that you don't know what "OP" means.

fits right into "what he does", as he's also trying to IDF-narc that thing from 900+ meters and then kill a 4ams mech with his lurms.
..
there's an ancient prophecy claiming that once Vel does something useful in a match, the servers will shut down.


going by that, we have decades of MWO ahead of us.

[VonBruinwald]

Vellron2005, on 14 April 2020 - 12:14 AM, said:

And it's not OP as the corsair is, because It can't take so much punishment and carry 2 Gauss riffles while doing it..

That mech is just ridiculous.. But it's sooooo sweet to NARC it and then watch is melt helplessly under a hailstorm of LRM <3

2x Piranha 2x Corsair dropdeck.

A man can dream.

[Captain Caveman DE]

VonBruinwald, on 14 April 2020 - 03:34 AM, said:

2x Piranha 2x Corsair dropdeck.

A man can dream.

one man's dream sounds like 23 others' nightmare; your team -as well as your enemies- would rather want you to bring something useful.

[Black Caiman]

The Corsair-7A is a useful mech...but mostly when acting as an umbrella against ATMs/LRMs. Plus the 3 RAC2 build with MLs still has solid offensive capability. Its niche for sure because if the other team brings no missiles its then just a slightly under-gunned assault. If the other team does have missiles though youll be happy to have it near you!