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[Nightbird]

If you want to drop to T5 as fast as possible, use a Jihad Javelin, with 6 rocket 20s. Alpha some poor mech in the face, exit, and then move on to your second Jihad Javelin.

Don't forget about the minimum range, and you'll do about 200 damage. Enough to be mediocre.

[gooddragon2]

Nightbird, on 26 August 2020 - 09:12 AM, said:

If you want to drop to T5 as fast as possible, use a Jihad Javelin, with 6 rocket 20s. Alpha some poor mech in the face, exit, and then move on to your second Jihad Javelin.

Don't forget about the minimum range, and you'll do about 200 damage. Enough to be mediocre.

I'd prefer something like this:
https://mwo.smurfy-n...692fe559663e823

[Nightbird]

That mech takes ten times longer per match. Fast matches is key

[gooddragon2]

Nightbird, on 26 August 2020 - 09:29 AM, said:

That mech takes ten times longer per match. Fast matches is key

But you can 1108 damage with missile rack nodes.

Oh, right, going for tier 5. They'll report you if you try it, just like a 15 flamer quick self ignition piranha. You have to make a convincing ruse. Actually, honestly, you should at least try to have fun on your way to tier 5 otherwise it's a grind.

Edited by gooddragon2, 26 August 2020 - 09:36 AM.

[Nightbird]

If you do 200 damage and die, you're below average, so it's not a reportable offense

[gooddragon2]

Nightbird, on 26 August 2020 - 09:38 AM, said:

If you do 200 damage and die, you're below average, so it's not a reportable offense

I dunno.

When I bought the mad4hp on 50% off and cannibalized mech parts to equip a lrm boat mad4hp, I expected reactions like this:

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=ZumbKiWXtfw

Specifically the dialogue after the crash. Especially after getting hit by lots of lrms simultaneously.

But it was not to be. Perhaps I was too slow in coming to the realization of my place in the team fights. Oh well.

Must protect trade secrets, nyaah.

Edited by gooddragon2, 26 August 2020 - 10:47 AM.

[General Solo]

How can you afford these things?
On a Tier 5 salary

Edited by OZHomerOZ, 26 August 2020 - 10:17 AM.

[gooddragon2]

OZHomerOZ, on 26 August 2020 - 10:16 AM, said:

How can you afford these things?
On a Tier 5 salary

Patience, events, and sales. And a willingness to cannibalize equipment to sell it from mechs.

Edited by gooddragon2, 26 August 2020 - 11:37 AM.

[D V Devnull]

crazytimes, on 26 August 2020 - 12:54 AM, said:

It hasn't used 3/3/3/3 for matchmaking since even before I started playing and that was years ago. There was no point to pick a least populated weight class even when it still used total tonnage to balance.

Now that they only metric used is skill, unless you're trying to balance a 3 or 4 man group, pick whatever you want. Unless you're doing what I'm doing and posting on the forums to try to avoid staying synched with one of the elite 4 manners.

Aidan Crenshaw, on 26 August 2020 - 02:14 AM, said:

3/3/3/3 has been in effect until the latest adjustments to the matchmaker in June '20. At least somewhat, as in you could be sure that both sides always had the same weight class distribution. So, to take a prominent example of the younger past, if you saw 10 Assaults dropping on your team, the enemy team also was sure to have 10 Assaults.

MummyPig, on 26 August 2020 - 05:43 AM, said:

Wish that was true Aidan.

Had a drop yesterday where we had nothing above 70 tonnes against 7 fully fledged assaults and the balance mediums & heavies.

Amusingly, we only lost 9 v 12 due to our exceptional ability to leg hump the assaults

Aidan Crenshaw, on 26 August 2020 - 05:55 AM, said:

Well, read what I wrote. The above stated was true until the latest MM changes in June. Right now, Weight balance is a rare sight.

Hi there, Aidan Crenshaw... crazytimes & have it right... The whole 3/3/3/3 thing was shut down several years ago, and it was moved to Total Team Tonnage as a measure of Balance for any given Match played. The same thing happened for the Group Queue system as well, and I could swear I also remember a time where there was that annoyance of 3/3/3/3 impeding some interesting gameplay. If it was possible that I could find it, then I would also toss you a link to the Patch Notes (or several) where these known changes happened.

This said, I also find myself angered at how Paul Inouye completely tossed out the Tonnage Balancing in the MatchMaker in the last few months. They need to fix that and make sure Total Team Tonnage is back to being near-equal, like yesterday.

~D. V. "has tried to dig through the Patch Notes but ended up giving up on searching due to time loss" Devnull

[Aidan Crenshaw]

Sorry, Dev, but you are wrong here. 3/3/3/3 never got shut down until the Soup Queue Changes. It was even the screw that was turned when matchmaking times got long and it was the reason why you always had the exact same number of classes on both teams. Tonnage was never balanced. You could go 3 Zeus against 3 Fafnirs, but you always had the same number of assaults, lights, meds and heavys. This was not a thing in the old GQ, obviously, and is not there since soup queue. Well, technically it's still in effect, but has the lowest priority for matchmaking. You can see it on low-pop times, when you get the rare drop without a group.

[crazytimes]

Aidan Crenshaw, on 27 August 2020 - 12:59 PM, said:

Sorry, Dev, but you are wrong here. 3/3/3/3 never got shut down until the Soup Queue Changes. It was even the screw that was turned when matchmaking times got long and it was the reason why you always had the exact same number of classes on both teams. Tonnage was never balanced. You could go 3 Zeus against 3 Fafnirs, but you always had the same number of assaults, lights, meds and heavys. This was not a thing in the old GQ, obviously, and is not there since soup queue. Well, technically it's still in effect, but has the lowest priority for matchmaking. You can see it on low-pop times, when you get the rare drop without a group.

Yeah, you are wrong. Instead of taking my word, here's a convenient screenshot from my desktop. It has the date, it also *very* clearly doesn't not have 3/3/3/3. It appears to be about 2/2/6/2.

Like I said, 3/3/3/3 was shut down years ago. There hasn't been a reason to pick a particular weight class other than you want to play it for a while. The in game advisory of "pick XXX for shorter wait" is absolutely useless.

[Aidan Crenshaw]

You don't seem to read what I'm writing, crazy. 3/3/3/3 always was only the baseline MM attempt. It would open up to allow quicker matches.
What your screenshot shows is 2/3/5/2 for both sides, which was not unusual, since many players drop in Heavies. And we see a total tonnage of 750 tons on the blue, against 730 tons on the red team.

Here, have a read on the latest MM changes before the Soup-Queue: https://mwomercs.com...pdate-30052018/

[gooddragon2]

D V Devnull, on 25 August 2020 - 12:58 AM, said:

Bunch of those Bad Teams, right?

Anyway, be prepared for near-infinite wait times. While I am 'Tier 3' myself at the time of posting this, I have been witness to a 'Tier 5' whose wait times are long and therefore not very fun.

Oh, and by the way, your Mech Design is invalid. (Likely your point, I know. But, there's always someone who was going to get technical, so I'm just stealing their chance!) There's no way MWO would allow loading in without an Engine on things, so I can't even go try your "Troll Build" out. Perhaps swap the Head & CT Weapons out for at least a STD 250 Engine + 3 ER Small Lasers attached, and add some Armor to all the sections currently at Zero amount? Heck, take off ALL the Energy Weapons, put 7 ER Small Lasers on there to go with the STD 250 Engine made mandatory by the lack of space for an LFE and/or XL, run the Armor back up a little bit, and then we have something that's useful & silly in tandem. Heck, maybe we throw in a TAG on the Head or somewhere else?

~D. V. "How could 'Tier 6' exist when PSR can't go below 'Tier 5 @ Zero PSR' anyway?" Devnull

Since that design is invalid, how about this? It has an engine, heat sinks and a weapon.
https://mwo.smurfy-n...f28c23a90a26ad5

[D V Devnull]

gooddragon2, on 30 August 2020 - 11:40 AM, said:

Since that design is invalid, how about this? It has an engine, heat sinks and a weapon.
https://mwo.smurfy-n...f28c23a90a26ad5

Still don't work... Not allowed more than 1 Targeting Comp & 1 Active Probe there... Definitely Funny that Smurfy will allow wacky Loadout renders... Try again... LOL

~D. V. "getting a good chuckle out of these invalid Loadout renders" Devnull

[Beorning]

I have discovered that piranha mech, even if I think I am doing good can probably get me back to tier 5 quickly enough.

[gooddragon2]

Beorning, on 04 September 2020 - 05:11 AM, said:

I have discovered that piranha mech, even if I think I am doing good can probably get me back to tier 5 quickly enough.

If I'm not really advancing in rank due to losing, is any mech I pilot technically...
...
lostech?
:>?

[Beorning]

gooddragon2, on 04 September 2020 - 07:01 AM, said:

If I'm not really advancing in rank due to losing, is any mech I pilot technically...
...
lostech?
:>?

clever. sadly I am now advancing in the piranha.

Myst Lynx seems fun and high chance of heading to tier 6

Edited by Beorning, 07 September 2020 - 04:15 AM.