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[Wolfos31]

I was thinking about this today and I'd love to see the community input. I'm sure this thread has been done a few times but I haven't seen one in the past couple of months.

For my money the worst mech in the game right now is probably the Spider 5V. Only two energy hardpoints in the CT with only 2 open slots. The highest Alpha you can run is 12 with 2 Medium Pulse lasers. The Flea, Pirhana, and Locust can all run higher Alphas and they all have less tonnage to work with. On top of that since the hardpoints are torso mounted and the spider doesn't have a lot of pitch you can't snipe UAVs or shoot down on people.

You pretty much have to run an XL to get enough speed in the Spider, but it doesn't have great hitboxes to stay alive. Even with the largest engine it's not the fastest mech in the game. It can't mount ECM so can't go stealth. And it can't mount Masc.

It can mount 12 jump jets, the most of any mech. So it has that going for it. But the days of poptarting are long gone and you can't maneuver while airborne so you have to choose your jumps carefully.

It's not too interesting quirk wise. It does have that crazy capture time boost. So if you play Conquest it can be a valuable asset. But it's a very niche roll.

So what do you folks think is the worst mech in the game?

[martian]

Perhaps you remember that time when you needed three different variants of one chassis to master it. I hated when I had to use SDR-5V Spider just because I wanted to master SDR-5K and SDR-5D.

[VonBruinwald]

The SDR-5V is an often overlooked, severely meme worthy mech of note because it is actually very effective in a very small niche.

Namely trolling.

[Elizander]

Spider 5V is terrible until 4 of you queue together and insta-win Assault on Polar or Alpine.

[FupDup]

Black Lanner.

[Wolfos31]

FupDup, on 28 January 2021 - 01:07 PM, said:

Black Lanner.

Oh man I had forgotten about this mech.

It just doesn't have the tonnage or slots to really do anything! It's got that giant engine but is still slower than most lights. Plus it has a giant frame so it's easy to hit.

[FupDup]

Wolfos31, on 28 January 2021 - 01:30 PM, said:

Oh man I had forgotten about this mech.

It just doesn't have the tonnage or slots to really do anything! It's got that giant engine but is still slower than most lights. Plus it has a giant frame so it's easy to hit.

So bad it can't even be a meme like the Spider 5V.

[Heavy Money]

Black Lanner can be pretty nasty, but basically its a big Piranha. Its fun to play, and its a terrible time to 1v1 if you're a fire support medium or heavy, but it has a tendency to just get obliterated before it can get in anywhere. It's a mech without a battlefield role, which makes it not fit anywhere. But its not the worst mech. It is functional at what its supposed to do, there's just no role for what it does.

[FupDup]

Heavy Money, on 28 January 2021 - 01:34 PM, said:

Black Lanner can be pretty nasty, but basically its a big Piranha. Its fun to play, and its a terrible time to 1v1 if you're a fire support medium or heavy, but it has a tendency to just get obliterated before it can get in anywhere. It's a mech without a battlefield role, which makes it not fit anywhere. But its not the worst mech. It is functional at what its supposed to do, there's just no role for what it does.

The Piranha has a lot of hardpoints. The Lanner does not. It's not a big Piranha. The Nova would be a more accurate comparison for that.

EDIT: Forgot about the 6-laser left arm. So it can technically mount a lot of small weapons but you don't have the pod space to actually make truly effective use of that. I maintain my position that the Blanner is worse than the Spider 5V because at least that thing is good at trolling and capping.

Edited by FupDup, 28 January 2021 - 01:40 PM.

[Heavy Money]

FupDup, on 28 January 2021 - 01:36 PM, said:

The Piranha has a lot of hardpoints. The Lanner does not. It's not a big Piranha. The Nova would be a more accurate comparison for that.

EDIT: Forgot about the 6-laser left arm. So it can technically mount a lot of small weapons but you don't have the pod space to actually make use of that.

It has less firepower than a piranha, but you still don't want it in your back. And it has the speed to get there. It just isn't low profile enough to get there, even with ECM.

[FupDup]

Heavy Money, on 28 January 2021 - 01:41 PM, said:

It has less firepower than a piranha, but you still don't want it in your back. And it has the speed to get there. It just isn't low profile enough to get there, even with ECM.

I mean...I don't really want anything in my back. And based on the usual loadouts people bring on the mech, it probably poses a lower threat to my posterior than almost anything other than a Spider 5V (which I still think is the overall better mech).

Edited by FupDup, 28 January 2021 - 01:51 PM.

[D A T A]

timberwolf

[JediPanther]

JENNER. ALL of them. 20 ton fle and lcts both have more armor with max survival skills and better quirks. -15 cd on missiles for a jenner. lol Let me rock that lrm 5/10 buddy. One ams can shoot that down no problem.

[FupDup]

D A T A, on 28 January 2021 - 01:54 PM, said:

timberwolf

The Mad Cat is in a pretty sad state, but it can at least still pose a threat.

[VonBruinwald]

I'd take a Lanner over a Spider...

[Wolfos31]

JediPanther, on 28 January 2021 - 01:56 PM, said:

JENNER. ALL of them. 20 ton fle and lcts both have more armor with max survival skills and better quirks. -15 cd on missiles for a jenner. lol Let me rock that lrm 5/10 buddy. One ams can shoot that down no problem.

I don't think the Jenner is good, its CT attracts too much fire and it's too easy to hit. That said, it can mount decent firepower and move fast enough to skirmish. I'd argue the 5V is worse than the JR7-D.

[MechWarrior5782621]

The Black Lanner can actually be sorta good, with a combination of machine guns & lasers. Plus it has ECM & MASC.

The Spider is probably the worst chassis in the game.

SDR-5V is among the worst mech variants in the game, but at least it has the capture assist quirk going for it.

MAD-6S is my pick for the worst mech variant in the game. They gave it an ERPPC quirk... but would anyone ever use it for that purpose? With such terrible mobility and those low, wide arm mounts?

Edited by Fainting Goat, 28 January 2021 - 06:33 PM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Fainting Goat, on 28 January 2021 - 06:13 PM, said:

MAD-6S is my pick for the worst mech variant in the game. They gave it an ERPPC quirk... but would anyone ever use it for that purpose? With such terrible mobility and those low, wide arm mounts?

Yeah that one's awful, the worst Marauder II, which means its REALLY bad. The ER PPC HSL quirk lets it take 1 Gauss and 2 ER PPCs and alpha them together. Super scary for a 100 ton assault mech.

[Palor]

Are the Ravens considered trash still?

[Stonefalcon]

Black Lanner is useless, so many other mechs fill the fast skirmisher role so much better,