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[B L O O D W I T C H]

Returnee here.
How come i'm down to tier 5, is this a bug or was there some sort of hard reset (all the way down to tier5?).
I'm a bit confused to say the least :s


Gaah.. it's even on my forum tag, i feel like a filthy casual >_<

[The pessimistic optimist]

Welcome back it got reset

[B L O O D W I T C H]

Oh well, back to league i guess.

[VonBruinwald]

Lockheed_, on 02 February 2021 - 03:20 PM, said:

PSR got reset a while ago. It was also changed to be calculated, based on the pilots performance in comparison to their team mates and enemies in terms of match score. Everyone was put into Tier 3 to have a fresh start and every new player or everyone who has not played in a long time was put into Tier 5.
So yes there was a rest to PSR and an overhaul to the system.
It now actually tries to match people by their skill of dealing damage, instead of being pretty much just an XP bar like it was in the past.

This!

Should work better in theory but there's the issue of 4-mans mixed in with solos now.

B L O O D W I T C H, on 02 February 2021 - 03:36 PM, said:

Oh well, back to league i guess.

Can I have your stuff?

[The pessimistic optimist]

VonBruinwald, on 02 February 2021 - 03:37 PM, said:

This!

Should work better in theory but there's the issue of 4-mans mixed in with solos now.



Can I have your stuff?

4 man mixed with solo kind throws that idea PSR based on personal performance out of wack

[InvictusLee]

B L O O D W I T C H, on 02 February 2021 - 03:36 PM, said:

Oh well, back to league i guess.

NOOOOOO COME BACK! WE NEED YOUR FILTHY CASUALNESS!

I also LOVE that urbie.

[B L O O D W I T C H]

Lockheed_, on 02 February 2021 - 03:43 PM, said:

If you're not coming back can I have your stuff?

VonBruinwald, on 02 February 2021 - 03:37 PM, said:

Can I have your stuff?

You two should dunk it out in solaris and tell me the result

[PocketYoda]

B L O O D W I T C H, on 02 February 2021 - 04:42 PM, said:

You two should dunk it out in solaris and tell me the result

Honestly if you were tier 1 i think you'd be back there in a week or so if you are skilled

[InvictusLee]

B L O O D W I T C H, on 02 February 2021 - 04:42 PM, said:

You two should dunk it out in solaris and tell me the result

OOOOOOO! I'LL BE THE CAMERA URBIE!

[LordNothing]

so you are mad you have to club seals for a week before getting to the appropriate tier for your skill. id be putting four inch spikes on my louisville slugger. leave no seal unclubbed.

Edited by LordNothing, 02 February 2021 - 08:30 PM.

[crazytimes]

Approximately 105 matches from mid 5 to lower 1 if you're an exceptionally good player.

[VonBruinwald]

November11th, on 02 February 2021 - 07:44 PM, said:

OOOOOOO! I'LL BE THE CAMERA URBIE!

Well this is awkward, I was going to suggest me and Lord do it in our Urbies, You got a K-9? Put the sirens on so we know who to shoot.

[Aerei]

VonBruinwald, on 03 February 2021 - 03:24 AM, said:

Well this is awkward, I was going to suggest me and Lord do it in our Urbies, You got a K-9? Put the sirens on so we know who to shoot.

Stock Urbies. It's the only way.

[VonBruinwald]

Aerei, on 03 February 2021 - 04:38 AM, said:

Stock Urbies. It's the only way.

Std. 60 or bust.

I was thinking a couple of Double barrelled deputies.

[Wildstreak]

B L O O D W I T C H, on 02 February 2021 - 03:36 PM, said:

Oh well, back to league i guess.

Makes little difference given many online games have the same problems, you are just changing visuals and characters mostly.

Samial, on 02 February 2021 - 07:30 PM, said:

Honestly if you were tier 1 i think you'd be back there in a week or so if you are skilled

Some people do not get how matchmakers work.

[Willard Phule]

SirSmokes, on 02 February 2021 - 03:41 PM, said:

4 man mixed with solo kind throws that idea PSR based on personal performance out of wack

Only for people dropping solo. Those dropping in groups have a PSR that directly reflects group effort. That's why it's so funny to watch these elite, T1 comp group players dropping solo and ending up no better than the solos they drop with.

[The pessimistic optimist]

Willard Phule, on 03 February 2021 - 05:51 AM, said:

Only for people dropping solo. Those dropping in groups have a PSR that directly reflects group effort. That's why it's so funny to watch these elite, T1 comp group players dropping solo and ending up no better than the solos they drop with.

How that work? So a group of 4 man pro drop in murder low tier guys and that group has no effect on there ability to perform find there true PSR how that work? How that not throwing PSR out wack for some players? So you have to drop group to get true PSR?

Edited by SirSmokes, 03 February 2021 - 05:57 AM.

[martian]

B L O O D W I T C H, on 02 February 2021 - 03:07 PM, said:

Returnee here.
How come i'm down to tier 5, is this a bug or was there some sort of hard reset (all the way down to tier5?).
I'm a bit confused to say the least :s
...
Gaah.. it's even on my forum tag, i feel like a filthy casual >_<

Here comes the explanation:

► All MWO players - every single one, fresh Cadets included - were moved to the mid-Tier 3 in July 2020. ▼

► In December 2020 PGI made another movement: All players registered after July 2020 with less than 20-25 games have been moved to Tier 5. The PGI's original intent was to move those new Cadets (i.e. new players registered after July 2020 and with less than 20-25 games) to Tier 5, so they would not have to face skilled Tier 1 and Tier 2 players. ▼

► How I understand it, that was the intent ... ▼

► Now insert a piece of PGI's programming. ▼

► All players with less than 20-25 games played after July 2020 were moved to Tier 5, even if they have been registered since 2011. ▼

► Depending on how good player you are, you should move to Tier 3 in a week or two, and to Tier 1 in another week or two. ▼

► Have fun!

[Willard Phule]

SirSmokes, on 03 February 2021 - 05:56 AM, said:

How that work? So a group of 4 man pro drop in murder low tier guys and that group has no effect on there ability to perform find there true PSR how that work? How that not throwing PSR out wack for some players? So you have to drop group to get true PSR?

PSR is based off of match score, correct? Winning gives you a higher score than losing. So much so that only the top 2 people on a losing team stand a chance at PSR increase.

A group of 4 experienced players stands a better chance at winning than 4 random solos without comms. That's just common sense. Same as a group of 4 inexperienced players dooming their team to constant losses.

I'm not sure the math works out exactly, but one could simply surmise that if rising from T5 to T1 is your goal, you will do it 4x faster in a group than by yourself.

Edited by Willard Phule, 03 February 2021 - 06:13 AM.

[The pessimistic optimist]

Willard Phule, on 03 February 2021 - 06:13 AM, said:

PSR is based off of match score, correct? Winning gives you a higher score than losing. So much so that only the top 2 people on a losing team stand a chance at PSR increase.

A group of 4 experienced players stands a better chance at winning than 4 random solos without comms. That's just common sense. Same as a group of 4 inexperienced players dooming their team to constant losses.

I'm not sure the math works out exactly, but one could simply surmise that if rising from T5 to T1 is your goal, you will do it 4x faster in a group than by yourself.

Still that really mean if your are not in a group you are at serous disadvantage at getting that top player score. Do you think you have a chance of get a higher player score when you are a disadvantage? So match score is not effect by being disadvantage because there a four man pro team on the other side? Or you are all solo and the other side has groups?

Edited by SirSmokes, 03 February 2021 - 06:50 AM.