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#61 Ignatius Audene

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Posted 26 April 2021 - 12:28 AM

The 2nd suck less

6 free slots and an light 305 indicate some serious problems though. Perhaps consider going down to le 300 and add stuff like->weapons

Edited by Ignatius Audene, 26 April 2021 - 12:30 AM.


#62 Duke Falcon

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Posted 06 May 2021 - 10:59 AM

View PostIgnatius Audene, on 26 April 2021 - 12:28 AM, said:

The 2nd suck less

6 free slots and an light 305 indicate some serious problems though. Perhaps consider going down to le 300 and add stuff like->weapons


Finally I merged the two version:
4x LPPCs, 1x RAC2, 1x MRM20
So far it is a grinder. Heat however a problem, perhaps later some skill buff may help on that. And RACs are awesome against light mechs. Just turn the opposite direction they circling around me and "ShoooooooooooT". RAC deals with them, that worked for me 2 times from 3 so far...
To bad clan RACs not included in the game yet. I could use 4 cRAC5s on my Rifleman2c even if armour would go paper thin...

#63 Ignatius Audene

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Posted 10 May 2021 - 09:43 AM

Why combine lowest face time and highest face time? Why one rac, why one mrm?
These builds are not insane. Just troll.
If u want something working u could go for 2 uac5 with an mrm 40 (or 30 and 2 meds) on the onion . Even nice quirks for it.

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Posted 11 May 2021 - 08:10 AM

View PostIgnatius Audene, on 10 May 2021 - 09:43 AM, said:

Why combine lowest face time and highest face time? Why one rac, why one mrm?
These builds are not insane. Just troll.
If u want something working u could go for 2 uac5 with an mrm 40 (or 30 and 2 meds) on the onion . Even nice quirks for it.


Because many reasons, first of all I am not T1 and not even want to be.
MRM is ****, f**king hate it and it is equipped as an emergency punch in cases when someone suddenly pops up in front of me. MRM has one thing better than SRM: damage. Otherwise I found it sh!tload.
Main weapons on my Orion are LPPCs. I just love PPCs even if MWO try to humiliate it into useless, obscene obscurity. This version of mine is a PPC guy, as it intented since the beginning (the other version were not trully my flavour).
RAC2 is for dealing lights or keep enemies at bay and from a safe distance. Offhand weapon, if you prefer.
MWO and mech quirks... All of us know they are there because of the big "kick me" note on our backs. I looked through the quirks for many mechs and found them useless garbage mostly. I found them as a side-effect of the very bad implementation of omni-pod technology just to make IS mechs less cry...

Yes, we all know MWO is NOT a mech\BT game but a sort-of-mecha shoot-em-up arcade in form of MMO.

EDIT:
Need to tinker that TBR-C in case if I won one. C-variant is the most bad, would be far so much better to give a Prime as prize... Perhaps I rebuild my one to be a tweaked prime... Something like this:
TBR-C
AT2D<:@1pd0lD7|5C|VR|VR|VRqd0jD7|5C|VC|VR|jRr`0iD7|1Cs`0eD7|1Ct01nD7u01oD7v@0hD7w<0<0<0

Edited by Duke Falcon, 11 May 2021 - 08:20 AM.


#65 martian

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Posted 11 May 2021 - 08:22 AM

View PostDuke Falcon, on 11 May 2021 - 08:10 AM, said:

Need to tinker that TBR-C in case if I won one. C-variant is the most bad, would be far so much better to give a Prime as prize...

What is so wrong with TBR-C(C)?

#66 Duke Falcon

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Posted 12 May 2021 - 12:09 AM

View Postmartian, on 11 May 2021 - 08:22 AM, said:

What is so wrong with TBR-C(C)?


Frankly? Nothing. There are just certain mechs and\or variants I dislike. TBR-C is unlucky to fall in this "dislike-zone". It is not bad at all, well, just hate it for somehow. Same goes for the Vapor eagle. That is a rather good mech but I just plainly hate it.
To be honest I also disliked Mad dogs but since have one (bought as a filler for my dropdeck) I start to like it. Maybe, IF, won the TBR-C give it a try if I could change my taste like I did with the MDG...
Next time, in the next event, I hope the rize would be some cool IS mech (mean: Marauder, Marauder 2, Nightstar or Centurion)...

EDIT:
This also looks soooooo lovely:
SNV-A
An7E4:V1|4f|l^|l^|LG|VCp01|LG|5C|5C|VRq01|LG|5C|5C|VRrl0|VR|VR|VR|VR|VR|oBsl0|VR|VR|VR|VR|VR|oBt<1|VR|VRu<1|VR|VRvB0w>0<0<0

Edited by Duke Falcon, 12 May 2021 - 12:29 AM.


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Posted 12 May 2021 - 12:47 AM

View PostDuke Falcon, on 12 May 2021 - 12:09 AM, said:

EDIT:
This also looks soooooo lovely:
SNV-A
An7E4:V1|4f|l^|l^|LG|VCp01|LG|5C|5C|VRq01|LG|5C|5C|VRrl0|VR|VR|VR|VR|VR|oBsl0|VR|VR|VR|VR|VR|oBt<1|VR|VRu<1|VR|VRvB0w>0<0<0


You can fit a bigger engine in there with the free tonnage.

As for the TBR-C, here some builds i saw in the field or conjured up myself:

ATM-Timby
AT2D<:H1|DCpl0lJ7|RC|SCql0jJ7|RC|SCr`0iD7|kB|kB|6S|6S|6S|l^s`0eD7|kB|kB|6S|6S|6S|l^tg0nD7ug0oD7v?0hD7w404040

Dakka-Wolf
AT2D<:H1|QRpl0dD7|eB|QR|QR|QRql02E7|eB|QR|QRr:0iD7s`0mD7|eBtg0nD7ug0oD7v?0hD7w404040

Dakka-Wolf 2
AT2D<:H1|RRpl0dD7|fB|RR|RR|RRql02E7|fB|RRr`0iD7|OC|OCs:0mD7tg0nD7ug0oD7v?0hD7w404040

The champion you get has already a decent laserbuild.

#68 martian

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Posted 12 May 2021 - 06:51 AM

View PostDuke Falcon, on 12 May 2021 - 12:09 AM, said:

Frankly? Nothing. There are just certain mechs and\or variants I dislike. TBR-C is unlucky to fall in this "dislike-zone". It is not bad at all, well, just hate it for somehow. Same goes for the Vapor eagle. That is a rather good mech but I just plainly hate it.
To be honest I also disliked Mad dogs but since have one (bought as a filler for my dropdeck) I start to like it. Maybe, IF, won the TBR-C give it a try if I could change my taste like I did with the MDG...

I am sure that once you earn the Mad Cat, you will like it.


View PostDuke Falcon, on 12 May 2021 - 12:09 AM, said:

Next time, in the next event, I hope the rize would be some cool IS mech (mean: Marauder, Marauder 2, Nightstar or Centurion)...

The Centurion was already the Prize of a previous challenge, so I hope that PGI will offer some other 'Mech.

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Posted 19 May 2021 - 07:00 AM

Some tinkering:
CP-11-A
It runs a bit short with armour but the sheer firepower as a back-line\second-line support could hurt. LPPCs are for off-hand, in case if ammo runs out or someone got to close...

#70 Ignatius Audene

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Posted 21 May 2021 - 08:55 AM

Overzised engine and missing armor in crucial parts...

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Posted 21 May 2021 - 08:01 PM

View PostDuke Falcon, on 19 May 2021 - 07:00 AM, said:

Some tinkering:
CP-11-A
It runs a bit short with armour but the sheer firepower as a back-line\second-line support could hurt. LPPCs are for off-hand, in case if ammo runs out or someone got to close...


Drop the mill to a LFE330 and you can take almost max armour, an extra LPPC and laser ams while still going a shade under 60km/h, which is plenty fast for a 90-ton mech.

Good hunting,
CFC Conky

Edited by CFC Conky, 21 May 2021 - 08:01 PM.


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Posted 22 May 2021 - 09:06 PM

View PostDuke Falcon, on 19 May 2021 - 07:00 AM, said:

Some tinkering:
CP-11-A
It runs a bit short with armour but the sheer firepower as a back-line\second-line support could hurt. LPPCs are for off-hand, in case if ammo runs out or someone got to close...

Using Light Engine with 350 rating would make your 'Mech go only 2.7 km/h slower, while giving you 3.5 tons that you could use on armor.

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Posted 05 June 2021 - 09:49 AM

I think I must rethink my connection with TBR-C. I finally won it (have troubles with the damage-farming) and refitted it to a nice monster:
2x Heavy Large Lasers + 5x ER Medium Lasers
Runs hot like hell but hurt badly. I found it nice as an FP-brawler albeit mostly got killed by overheat... Need to learn how frequently must I fire without kill myself...

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Posted 05 June 2021 - 09:58 AM

View PostDuke Falcon, on 05 June 2021 - 09:49 AM, said:

I think I must rethink my connection with TBR-C. I finally won it (have troubles with the damage-farming) and refitted it to a nice monster:
2x Heavy Large Lasers + 5x ER Medium Lasers

Congrats!

View PostDuke Falcon, on 05 June 2021 - 09:49 AM, said:

Runs hot like hell but hurt badly. I found it nice as an FP-brawler albeit mostly got killed by overheat... Need to learn how frequently must I fire without kill myself...

1) Once you get "the feel" for the 'Mech, the life should be easier.
2) Maybe you could remove one ER Medium Laser and add one more double heat sink, if you wish.
3) Do not forget to unlock heat nodes in your 'Mech's skill tree. That should help too.

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Posted 15 June 2021 - 09:27 AM

Which one is a better stealth mech:
ASN-27
or
CDA-3M

I myself like the Cicada better because the continous damage it could deliver but the Assassin could jump and rarely jam...

Edited by Duke Falcon, 15 June 2021 - 09:29 AM.


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Posted 15 June 2021 - 09:44 AM

View PostDuke Falcon, on 15 June 2021 - 09:27 AM, said:

Which one is a better stealth mech:
ASN-27
or
CDA-3M

I myself like the Cicada better because the continous damage it could deliver but the Assassin could jump and rarely jam...

What about putting ER Larges on the Cicada?

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Posted 15 June 2021 - 12:39 PM

I myself run an XL 280 in my Cicada. I feel like there're diminishing returns going full engine in the thing. Quad medium lasers with a uac 5 was the classic, but it's easy enough to swap out the uac for your preferred Rac 2 and four tonnes of ammo rather'n three.

Course, that's only if'n the speed works for ya.

~Leone.

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Posted 15 June 2021 - 11:06 PM

Both are badly undergunned.

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Posted Yesterday, 09:48 AM

The ASN-27 is only good if you're in love with jumping onto high places and sniping down unseen. it's of limited use.

I run the Cicada a bit differently, with 2 LL and 2 ML like so:
https://mech.nav-alp...3ada86f6_CDA-3M

The goal with that cicada is to escort the bigger mechs and provide ECM and flea-scraping services, while having the ability to roam away and stealth things. In this case, you can also trade the stealth armor for ferro-fibrous and an extra heat sink for staying power.

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Posted Today, 11:32 AM

View PostGagis, on 15 June 2021 - 11:06 PM, said:

Both are badly undergunned.


Because they are stealth and brawler designs. Overgun them and pestered by heat problems not help the stealth armour or the speed. These are for sneak in, stab and vanish. Precision strikers not brutes what need to bash and howl.

Also I tend toward the Cicada as it grants some interesting options. RAC, LPPCs or LLs all could be usefull. RAC are nice because I have laser-boats already for brawl (my TBR, start to learn how to controll without overheat suicide).





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