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[Natural Predator]

Here is my recommended options for mechs that Might actually be viable in MWO

Criteria
Enough Variants
Useable (IE, would they even be functional from an Engine/shapely)
Hardpoints



CLAN
LIGHTS (Honorable Mention locust 2c)
Fire Falcon-25 tons (Omni)
Prime- 2M, 5E
A-B,M,E
B-2E
C-2M, 3E
D-3M, 2E
F-4B, 4E
H-6E

Tough call between Locust2c and Fire Falcon. You could go either way. Fills the 25 ton gap for Clans who desperately need some decent light mechs.

MEDIUM
Stooping Hawk-55 Tons (Omni) (Honorable Mention Mongrel)
Prime-1B, 4E
A-2E
B-3M,1E
C-4E, JJ
D-7E
E-1B, 2E
F-1M, 4E, JJ
G-3B, 4E

Finding good Clan Mediums was actually kind of difficult. The stooping Hawk had enough variety and enough decent omni pods that could make it viable. The mongrel is the only other clan medium I felt could fit the bill.

Heavy
Black Python-75 tons (honorable mention Woodsmen)
Prime-8E, 2B
2-7E, 3B
3-8E, 2B
4-9E

The Clan Grasshopper. Need I say more. Its ugly as sin but who care if it functions well. Comes down to hitboxes on this.

Assault (Honorable Mention Stone Rhino)
Turkina-95 tons (omni) Jump Jets All Variants
Prime-2E, 2M, 2B
A-2B, 2M
b-8E
C-3B, 4E, 1M
D-2M, 2E
E-6M
H-5E, 2B
X-2M, 6E, ECM

Turkina is an iconic Jade Falcon Assault and its an absolute crime its not in the game


IS
Lights
Owens-35 Tons (Omni)
Prime-4E,2M
A-2M, 2B, 1E
B-1M, 4E
C-3E
D-2M
E-1M, 2E
F-3E, ECM

Owens just seems better than most of the other IS lights that are left with enough variation to make a mech pack.

MEDIUM
Men Shen-55 Tons (omni)
Prime-4E, 1M
A-1B, 4E
B-2B, 4E
C-3E, ecm
D-3E, 2M,
E-6B, 3E

Honestly with the remaining IS mechs this was the only one I felt had enough variation to be Viable. There is certainly cooler IS mechs available (Sha Yu, Starslayer, etc) the question is can you do enough variation on them.

HEAVY (Crusader is iconic and most likely will get voted for)
Black Hawk KU-60 tons (Omni)
Prime-12E
A-2E
B-1B, 5E
C-1B, 5E
D-1M, 5E
E-12E

The IS nova. Because who doesnt want a mech with 12 Is lasers? Who am I kidding there is no way the Crusader gets outvoted anyways. Damn iconic MechWarrior Missile boats.

ASSAULT A(honorable mention HAUPTMANN)
Pillager-100 tons all have JJ
Primary-2B, 5E
1N-2B, 1M, 3E
4z-2b, 3e, ECM
5L-1B, 1M, 4E

This was a hard toss up for me between the Pillager and Hauptmann. Ultimately I went Pillager because its not an Omnimech. Meaning you can change your Engine and make more customization.



What are your thoughts?

Edited by Trashtier, 23 February 2021 - 08:45 PM.

[FupDup]

The Owens would be very bad without huge quirks. It has very little pod space thanks to not using Endo or FF. It has SHS which cripples your heat dissipation. And it has fairly few hardpoints on most variants. The best variants have merely average hardpoints.



The best case scenario is that the hardwired BAP and TAG are made removable, giving you 10 tons of pod space. That would be workable if the thing didn't get suck with SHS or if SHS got buffed (engine SHS should act like DHS). Note that the TAG is in the right torso, so all variants technically have 1E there (assuming we are allowed to remove it).

Other than godquirks I think the easiest way to save the Owens would be to make a non-canon Owens Mk II that has the proper corrections made (Endo, FF or LFF, DHS, no hardwired stuff, more hardpoints but with the same spirit as the original).


A better choice for IS Omni light is the Raptor, which can boat up to 11 lasers depending on which variants we get.



The TruDubs comment is outdated because external DHS are just as good as engine DHS these days. I don't feel like updating the image though.

Edited by FupDup, 24 February 2021 - 03:01 AM.

[Ekson Valdez]

Please take this discussion to Mechwarrior Online 2021: Mechs.
Let's not split attention on these discussions.
Locking the thread until further notice.