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[The pessimistic optimist]

MechWarrior177013, on 17 March 2021 - 04:41 AM, said:

I doubt that

Don't take my word for just stay in some games and spectate

Edited by SirSmokes, 17 March 2021 - 04:43 AM.

[Saved By The Bell]

My post was deleted for some unknown reason, but I want to write again.

It was not many ppc and gauss players. Always the same types:

We see clan ppc on Shadow cat.
We see Gauss on stealth Fafnir and Tanatos.

Me and noobs using strange unpopular combinations. Which are good only in special conditions, like weak lazy enemies, good spot, etc.

I use ppc mechs just for fun:

Nova
Awesome
Zeus
Hatamoto Chi

They are not strong, but it was fun.

I am glad, the game masters change something and we ll see many new mechs and combinations.

[Erik Krieger]

To be clear... I love this game and I am willing to give you money for it PGI. And I did it a lot in the past. But as a result of your ongoing ruining the game (and not to fix your failures for months and years) I was never less motivated to do so...

[Serenna187]

Clan ppcs handle amazingly bad now,they got denied the velocity buff,are scorching hot and i can go fetch a drink before they are ready to shoot again.Due to the ridiculous heat backup weapons are fairly limited if you want to sustain any sort of dps.This mess should've been on a PTS where people could've screamed at the devs sooner

[The pessimistic optimist]

Serenna187, on 17 March 2021 - 05:17 AM, said:

Clan ppcs handle amazingly bad now,they got denied the velocity buff,are scorching hot and i can go fetch a drink before they are ready to shoot again.Due to the ridiculous heat backup weapons are fairly limited if you want to sustain any sort of dps.This mess should've been on a PTS where people could've screamed at the devs sooner

Why am I doing higher PPC damage now? Go watch some people play with them in game you will be surprised

Edited by SirSmokes, 17 March 2021 - 05:22 AM.

[Saved By The Bell]

They use PPC like alfastrike with 6 lasers or smth. While I shoot PPC in chain fire mode.

[byebye360]

Well my 2 snppc 1 lb10 and 2 ml mad 3r has just had its main weapons completely ruined down from just not great.

[The pessimistic optimist]

byebye360, on 17 March 2021 - 06:04 AM, said:

Well my 2 snppc 1 lb10 and 2 ml mad 3r has just had its main weapons completely ruined down from just not great.

I know that pain my friend bin here a LONG time it will pass

[byebye360]

Like it would have been better in the past to swap them for lpls but I was having fun blowing limbs and side torsos off of things in one big hit with a hot energy ac20 which for how many heat sinks i had in it could go 4-5 volleys before worrying about heat.

Edited by byebye360, 17 March 2021 - 06:15 AM.

[The pessimistic optimist]

byebye360, on 17 March 2021 - 06:13 AM, said:

Like it would have been better in the past to swap them for lpls but I was having fun blowing limbs and side torsos off of things in one big hit with a hot energy ac20

You make new builds now try messing around

[K4I 4LL4RD LI4O]

So after 7 hrs of pain, frustration and tears can we get rid of these changes now...please...pretty please pgi. It really sucks.

[Albert C]

Having been playing VGL-1 with 3 Clan ERPPCs build and JJs. They are still at meta level, basically allowing me to deal 700+ dmg for 40% of the matches and 500+ dmg for 70% of matches. The build remains stronk as long as you stay at the second line and poptart with 2 ppcs/1ppcs in succession. You can even enjoy max alpha heat penalty auto shutdown for better stealthiness if you poptart behind a cover while having override disabled and most importantly 0% of heat(also your mech will reactivate right after dropping to the groud). And you will suffer no heat damage with 20 dhs mounted, quite an interesting and sometimes useful trick that I just discovered. Gotta say I begin to love ppcs. Will try out gauss rifles tomorrow but I don't think it will be a happy experience.

Edited by Albert C, 17 March 2021 - 06:26 AM.

[Rkshz]

hey PGI, why don't you nerf HML?
I understand that HML is an unpopular weapon, but my LBK-RL with 8 HML feels great = 100% backstabe kill any mechs.
Nobody asked you to nerf HML, well, do it the same way as you did with PPCs and Gauss

it's so easy to break something that NOBODY asked you to do

[Mechdocdie]

OK, have now had a few games in my Bellonarius to try out the MASC changes.



While I like the ability to use MASC for longer, the larger turning circle while using it is a real pain. Hit and run skirmishing, especially in tight spaces, feels neutered and unnatural. I cannot MASC, hit, MASC, turn and run. I have to MASC, hit, MASC, turn and run a bit, unMASC because Ihave hit a corner I navigated past easily on the way in, turn a bit, run a bit until I have a clear space, restart MASC and finally run with a few extra shots in my back.

I eventually moved 6 skill points from Operations to Mobility to get the two extra anchor turn nodes to try and compensate. This helped a little, and I suspect that with time I will learn to compensate, but I came away wondering what was the point. A rarely seen mech is now just that little less fun to play, and I can't see how the "balance" of the game was improved by that.

Edited by Mechdocdie, 17 March 2021 - 06:35 AM.

[Brauer]

So when are you all going to rollback this dumpster fire of a patch?

[The pessimistic optimist]

Brauer, on 17 March 2021 - 07:02 AM, said:

So when are you all going to rollback this dumpster fire of a patch?

Why the problems? Other people seem to be just fine? https://steamcommuni.../?id=2427397560 I am sure you could do same damage as that CDA-3m PPC easy right?

[Brauer]

SirSmokes, on 17 March 2021 - 07:07 AM, said:

Why the problems? Other people seem to be just fine? https://steamcommuni.../?id=2427397560 I am sure you could do same damage as that CDA-3m PPC easy right?

Why the problems? They found a way to nerf the fun out of the game while expanding the gap between already good weapons and bad ones, and nerfing masc really hard even though it was in no need of a nerf. There's a clear consensus here that the community does not like that patch. That's my last response to you.

[The pessimistic optimist]

Brauer, on 17 March 2021 - 07:09 AM, said:

Why the problems? They found a way to nerf the fun out of the game while expanding the gap between already good weapons and bad ones, and nerfing masc really hard even though it was in no need of a nerf. There's a clear consensus here that the community does not like that patch. That's my last response to you.

Nah try spending some time in the lab see what you can do you might be surprised. So also no you can't do that got it.

Edited by SirSmokes, 17 March 2021 - 07:13 AM.

[Skippynibble]

My 2 cents

Snub PPC cool down needs to be reduced, currently to long for a brawl weapon. Maybe should have left the cool down time.

Light guass need its cooldown reduced. Fire rate previously was the only reason to take it. It's cool down compared to standard guass is not a big enough percentage difference to justify taking light guass. A alternative to cool down would be making the tonnage less so that you could take other weapons.

[AnAnachronismAlive]

Wanna make the classic Snub-PPC useful / give it a little flavour? Keep it the way it was pre-patch mostly, but add some splash damage to make up for the bad weight/heat/damage-relation. Nut(ty) so hard!

Edited by AnAnachronismAlive, 17 March 2021 - 08:04 AM.