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#1 HeavyMetal2kx

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Posted 11 April 2021 - 06:28 PM

Can we have a NEW current tier/meta list for all mechs? The ones currently available are old, and outdated.

#2 grim spider

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Posted 11 April 2021 - 06:41 PM

Sure thing, not gonna include all mechs only ones I've played

S tier
Dire wolf - does so much damage and can kill most mechs extremely fast

A tier
Madcat - does a lot of damage. If one of these mechs is shooting you.. watch out
Anhillator - this mech can deal A LOT of damage
Fafnir - this mech can deal a lot of damage and also has ECM so people will be completely unaware of your current position

B tier
Timberwolf- this mech does pretty good damage but will lose to the mechs above it
Grasshopper - this mech can deal a good amount of energy damage with a lot of energy hardpoints
Rifleman - this mech does great damage and has good mounts

C tier
Hunchback - this mech does ok damage and has a relatively large shoulder
Stormcrow - mediocre damage but superior clan technology
Vapor eagle - does alright damage and has jump jets

D tier
Cicada - pretty bad damage avoid

F tier
Commando - does no damage absolute crap
Javelin- not enough damage to be viable
Arctic cheetah - the damage is extremely low its essentially useless

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Posted 11 April 2021 - 06:48 PM

View PostHeavyMetal2kx, on 11 April 2021 - 06:28 PM, said:

Can we have a NEW current tier/meta list for all mechs? The ones currently available are old, and outdated.

https://grimmechs.isengrim.org/

Being updated gradually and will be more recently as April patch is released on the 20th.

#4 Stonefalcon

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Posted 11 April 2021 - 07:27 PM

View Post___, on 11 April 2021 - 06:41 PM, said:


SS tier
Anhillator - this mech can deal A LOT of damage



FTFY

#5 Gagis

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Posted 12 April 2021 - 03:25 AM

Grimmechs lags slightly behind but likely less than the opinions of anyone posting on the forums. Just check grimmechs.

#6 Meep Meep

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Posted 12 April 2021 - 07:45 AM

Meta for what mode? Organized play is going to be fairly strict on what you will bring because the other side will have a wall of it too. But in the chaos of quick play were you will find every mech and every possible loadout the meta is what you make it since you are basically playing a 1 vs 23 game.

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Posted 12 April 2021 - 08:11 AM

This is probably the single worst place to ask that question.

#8 RickySpanish

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Posted 12 April 2021 - 08:12 AM

Nothing's out of date because almost nothing has changed. Grimmechs is as accurate as it ever was just don't run anything with lasers unless it's IS MPL.

#9 Meep Meep

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Posted 12 April 2021 - 08:28 AM

View PostDionnsai, on 12 April 2021 - 08:11 AM, said:

This is probably the single worst place to ask that question.


Are you saying you don't know what the meta is? Or are unwilling to give any as the op asked?

#10 Dionnsai

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Posted 12 April 2021 - 08:44 AM

View PostMeep Meep, on 12 April 2021 - 08:28 AM, said:


Are you saying you don't know what the meta is? Or are unwilling to give any as the op asked?


No, I'm saying that almost any unit discord, reddit, your grandma's bingo parlor, anyplace else, you would get a better answer to that question than here on the brown sea...

A great place to start would be the MWO Comp discord though: https://discord.gg/9zxk7m6f

Edited by Dionnsai, 12 April 2021 - 08:45 AM.


#11 Nightbird

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Posted 12 April 2021 - 08:45 AM

Anything with flamers and machine guns will be good.

#12 Meep Meep

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Posted 12 April 2021 - 08:46 AM

View PostDionnsai, on 12 April 2021 - 08:44 AM, said:


No, I'm saying that almost any unit discord, reddit, your grandma's bingo parlor, anyplace else, you would get a better answer to that question than here on the brown sea...

A great place to start would be the MWO Comp discord though: https://discord.gg/9zxk7m6f


But you do know that the organized play meta is though?

#13 Dionnsai

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Posted 12 April 2021 - 08:54 AM

View PostMeep Meep, on 12 April 2021 - 08:46 AM, said:


But you do know that the organized play meta is though?

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View PostNightbird, on 12 April 2021 - 08:45 AM, said:

Anything with flamers and machine guns will be good.

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#14 Gagis

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Posted 12 April 2021 - 08:58 AM

Don't engage. Meep Meep will spam dozens of posts denying that a metagame exists and will not listen to reason. Trying to explain what a metagame is will be futile.

#15 Dionnsai

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Posted 12 April 2021 - 09:05 AM

View PostGagis, on 12 April 2021 - 08:58 AM, said:

Don't engage. Meep Meep will spam dozens of posts denying that a metagame exists and will not listen to reason. Trying to explain what a metagame is will be futile.


Generally when you look someone up and they have sub 1.0 k/d and w/l you should probably disregard what they have to say in relation to "meta" or "what works": https://leaderboard....rch?u=meep+meep

I stand by my previous post though, if you want good advice for meta, builds, mechs, spend some time on the Comp Discord: https://discord.gg/9zxk7m6f

#16 DUMAR

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Posted 12 April 2021 - 09:06 AM

View PostGagis, on 12 April 2021 - 08:58 AM, said:

Don't engage. Meep Meep will spam dozens of posts denying that a metagame exists and will not listen to reason. Trying to explain what a metagame is will be futile.


There is a meta but some lack the creativity to make the full use of MWO tool box and what can be done with it

#17 Meep Meep

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Posted 12 April 2021 - 09:07 AM

View PostGagis, on 12 April 2021 - 08:58 AM, said:

Don't engage. Meep Meep will spam dozens of posts denying that a metagame exists and will not listen to reason. Trying to explain what a metagame is will be futile.


The metagame exists in organized play because meta is a natural part of anything where the participants are a tightly knit group acting as one. So what is the metagame in quick play other than play the mechs you personally do best in because you can't rely on anyone else?

View PostDionnsai, on 12 April 2021 - 09:05 AM, said:


Generally when you look someone up and they have sub 1.0 k/d and w/l you should probably disregard what they have to say in relation to "meta" or "what works": https://leaderboard....rch?u=meep+meep

I stand by my previous post though, if you want good advice for meta, builds, mechs, spend some time on the Comp Discord: https://discord.gg/9zxk7m6f


So what are the meta organized play fits then? Either you know them or not? Thats what the op is asking for not some rant about the quality of forum advice. If you have knowledge then share it otherwise why are you even here?

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Posted 12 April 2021 - 09:13 AM

View PostGagis, on 12 April 2021 - 08:58 AM, said:

Don't engage. Meep Meep will spam dozens of posts denying that a metagame exists and will not listen to reason. Trying to explain what a metagame is will be futile.

View PostDionnsai, on 12 April 2021 - 09:05 AM, said:


Generally when you look someone up and they have sub 1.0 k/d and w/l you should probably disregard what they have to say in relation to "meta" or "what works": https://leaderboard....rch?u=meep+meep

I stand by my previous post though, if you want good advice for meta, builds, mechs, spend some time on the Comp Discord: https://discord.gg/9zxk7m6f

View PostMeep Meep, on 12 April 2021 - 09:07 AM, said:


The metagame exists in organized play because meta is a natural part of anything where the participants are a tightly knit group acting as one. So what is the metagame in quick play other than play the mechs you personally do best in because you can't rely on anyone else?



So what are the meta organized play fits then? Either you know them or not? Thats what the op is asking for not some rant about the quality of forum advice. If you have knowledge then share it otherwise why are you even here?


Here we go again. Round and around and around. Hey... That seems familiar...

Edited by RickySpanish, 12 April 2021 - 09:15 AM.


#19 Dionnsai

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Posted 12 April 2021 - 09:14 AM

View PostMeep Meep, on 12 April 2021 - 09:07 AM, said:

So what are the meta organized play fits then? Either you know them or not? Thats what the op is asking for not some rant about the quality of forum advice. If you have knowledge then share it otherwise why are you even here?


No one is going to easily summarize an answer in a paragraph or even a forum post, rather than attempting to do so, I am posting a link to a superior source of information filled with hundreds of skilled pilots who are VERY willing to help with great advice and mech builds: https://discord.gg/9zxk7m6f

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Posted 12 April 2021 - 09:16 AM

View PostDionnsai, on 12 April 2021 - 09:14 AM, said:


No one is going to easily summarize an answer in a paragraph or even a forum post, rather than attempting to do so, I am posting a link to a superior source of information filled with hundreds of skilled pilots who are VERY willing to help with great advice and mech builds: https://discord.gg/9zxk7m6f


Stop dude, you are trying to play Chess with a pidgeon.





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