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[justcallme A S H]

wolf 938, on 21 April 2021 - 05:23 AM, said:

ya i have done that and ya it should not be possible

Also ensure no sound packs & mods. They are known to cause all manner of strange issues.

[Lucky Noob]

i love the Patch,

my TB with 4 LL feels realy good, and my new Bushwacker Hero with 2 Rac5s wreck havok

[Ruediger Steiner]

BoneHunt, on 21 April 2021 - 04:01 AM, said:

Ne Jungs, das ist viel zu viel DMG.

If this forces people to think about there gameplay, so be it. Don´t want to get shot and die? Stop starring at your enemy while not moving. Start to play as team. End the stupid nascar.

[Matmoesa]

30mc, on 21 April 2021 - 05:05 AM, said:

- Why has the IS LBX20 a higher projectile speed than IS LBX10? Comparing it to the other types in general it should be lower. -

I think a big thing is that the weapons are not only balanced around each other but around their role. an ac20 slug that moves faster feels better in a fast brawl.

Edited by Matmoesa, 21 April 2021 - 08:32 AM.

[Pz_DC]

"Great" patch - after it game refuse to start launcher, and says "servers undergoing maintance…" error when started with direct link.. Repair tool didn't launch too, so single way to repair it - delete and install again!!! WELL DONE!

[dario03]

30mc, on 21 April 2021 - 05:05 AM, said:

So, numbers first, questions later...

IS ballistic ranges

Name	Maximal	Optimal	Speed	Spread
AC2	1440	720	1800	
AC5	1240	620	1500	
AC10	900	450	1300	
AC20	540	270	900	
 
LBX2	2430	810	1800	0,25
LBX5	2100	700	1330	0,4
LBX10	1620	540	1100	0,9
LBX20	1080	360	1330	1
 
UAC2	1400	700	1800	
UAC5	1200	600	1300	
UAC10	900	450	1100	
UAC20	540	270	800

Clan ballistic ranges

Name	Maximal	Optimal	Speed	Spread
AC2	1800	900	1800	
AC5	1440	720	1500	
AC10	1080	540	1300	
AC20	720	360	900	
 
LBX2	1800	900	1800	0,25
LBX5	1440	720	1330	0,4
LBX10	1080	540	1100	0,9
LBX20	720	360	1100	1
 
UAC2	1620	810	1800	
UAC5	1260	630	1300	
UAC10	1080	540	1100	
UAC20	720	360	800  

If you have a look at the progression of the gun size there are a few oddities that stand out:
- Why has the IS LBX20 a higher projectile speed than IS LBX10? Comparing it to the other types in general it should be lower.
- Same thing for the Clan LBX20. You might cover that one with balancing reasons, but it still is odd to have the same speed like the Clan LBX10.

I haven't paid much attention to things like that in a while but are those IS LBX ranges intended? Compared to the Clan variants they are quite high when considering that all other IS variants have shorter ranges.

Thanks for the feedback. I agree its a little odd that the 20 has a higher speed than the 10. However we didn't change the velocity on those weapons because we felt that the 10 was already strong and the 20 needed buffed. We could have made it lower velocity and buffed it more in other ways but decided on just buffing instead of both a nerf and buff.

[Tomo Sukesada]

Krasnopesky, on 21 April 2021 - 04:30 AM, said:

The next patches in May and June will focus on mobility and quirks. For mobility we are looking at increasing the mobility of many Mechs that are currently too sluggish, while keeping the Mechs with the highest agility the same as they currently are (Vulcan for example will remain as it is). In regards to quirks we will be looking at reducing some offensive quirks on top tier Mechs that are too strong and increasing the defensive quirks on Mechs that are underperforming.

These two changes alone will increase time to kill (TTK). On top of these changes planned by The Cauldron, PGI is planning to rescale Mechs which should focus on making certain Mechs smaller, thus increasing TTK for certain Mechs even more.

Having said all that, my first impressions of the patch in tier 1 Quick Play matches and a little bit of Faction Play has been positive and I have definitely not seen a large rise in damage or drop in TTK. There appear to be a lot more viable weapon options, but there are no 'stand out' weapons that function far better than previous options. UAC and IS MPL boats still seem incredibly strong to me. If anything I see more trading going on in a lot of matches and less NASCAR, which extends the match time.

So sluggish mechs will be getting agility buffs, which would predominately include larger mechs. My assumption would be that light mechs would be relatively untouched (since they are pretty agile) leading to a reduction in light survival. With lights being the least played weight class, do you really want to nerf them?? Or is there a plan to accommodate for this?

[Fishtiddies]

Liking the changes! It feels nice to be able to tinker around in the mechlab to come up with some new unheard of abominations. All the weapons feel usable now. Its crazy.

[Gas Guzzler]

Weapon changes overall positive but jury is still out.

However, Tourmaline spawn points... were they changed? I've had to cross no-mans land twice in an assault now on Domination. Is that intended?

[Flanking Boy]

Gas Guzzler, on 21 April 2021 - 12:25 PM, said:

Weapon changes overall positive but jury is still out.

However, Tourmaline spawn points... were they changed? I've had to cross no-mans land twice in an assault now on Domination. Is that intended?

I only played the map ones since the patch, but it was the same for me

[pacifica812]

Gas Guzzler, on 21 April 2021 - 12:25 PM, said:

Weapon changes overall positive but jury is still out.

However, Tourmaline spawn points... were they changed? I've had to cross no-mans land twice in an assault now on Domination. Is that intended?

I was noticing the same thing...

[justcallme A S H]

Tomo Sukesada, on 21 April 2021 - 10:11 AM, said:

So sluggish mechs will be getting agility buffs, which would predominately include larger mechs. My assumption would be that light mechs would be relatively untouched (since they are pretty agile) leading to a reduction in light survival. With lights being the least played weight class, do you really want to nerf them?? Or is there a plan to accommodate for this?

Most mechs across the board are getting buffs.

Lights included. In fact it'll benefit many lights the most which is great for that weight class.
There will also be quirks looked at in June as needed.

[Voice of Kerensky]

The problem with entering the game on Monday and Tuesday, which I mentioned, was repeated for the same people yesterday.
Comrade Pz_DC reports the same problem.
One of my comrades who ran into this problem made an official support request. In response, he received a standard message that his appeal was registered. He did not receive any more messages, the problem with entering the game has not yet been resolved.

P.S. As far as I understand, this problem only affected people from Russia

[justcallme A S H]

Only select Russians it would seem.

I've seen a number of Russian friends playing and some even streaming. That sounds like a more localised / ISP routing issue at a high level.

[Voice of Kerensky]

justcallme A S H, on 21 April 2021 - 05:06 PM, said:

Only select Russians it would seem.

I've seen a number of Russian friends playing and some even streaming. That sounds like a more localised / ISP routing issue at a high level.

Perhaps this is true. I am also from Russia and I do not experience such problems at the moment.
With the clause about Russia, I just wanted to clarify that, apparently, this problem only affected the players (some) from Russia, because I do not see any messages about the same problem from players from other countries.

[Voice of Kerensky]

I played on laser boats yesterday evening. I liked the new characteristics of the weapon (LPL + ERML Clan and IS).
Corrections of the spawning points on Tourmaline, apparently, were made so carefully that I personally did not see any changes.

P.S. The fourth month of 2021 ends. The problem of spawning points on one (!) map has not yet been resolved. How long will it take to fix spawning points on all maps?
Can a matchmaker (at least somewhat adequate) appear in this game? And in what time frame?

[Y E O N N E]

30mc, on 21 April 2021 - 05:05 AM, said:

I haven't paid much attention to things like that in a while but are those IS LBX ranges intended? Compared to the Clan variants they are quite high when considering that all other IS variants have shorter ranges.

PGI gave the IS LB-X a max range that is 3x optimal instead of the usual 2x as a consolation prize for the massive increases in slot count that renders them very difficult to fit in an effective build. It's not much, but it's a thing. Cauldron did not update LB-X range.

[PocketYoda]

justcallme A S H, on 18 April 2021 - 04:27 PM, said:

Sorry but that just another of your statements that simply isn't true.

The side torso is what is large on the TDR. The CT is not and combined with the very nice mobility the TDR has it is really easy to spread damage on it as well. It does not get cored easily at all.

Just shoot them in the giant purple middle part and they are dead in seconds..

[suffocater]

I like this patch. Build variety is back up and lasers are finally back up to be called weapons. If we could get rid of this utterly ******** heatspike when loosing a sidetorso, we would mostly be back to "fun to play" or even a "good game".

[Voice of Kerensky]

MechaGnome, on 21 April 2021 - 06:52 PM, said:

Just shoot them in the giant purple middle part and they are dead in seconds..

There is one interesting thing about this game. It is called "torso twist". Rumor has it that this thing helps a lot to survive.
And also i hear that if you less show the enemy's back, this also leads to an increase in survival.