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[Ludo22]

I need a dire wolf and considering this one comes with ECM I'm sold. I'm curious if I can put bigger ATMs on it that the ATM 6s that are stock. As far as the Timberwolf, can you really have too many of them? Seems like a TBR-C(C) with ECMs.

[w0qj]

For the upcoming Dire Wolf DWF-C(S), you most likely can use bigger ATMs on your arms.
But you'll need to reduce the size of your other energy weapon also located on your arms (currently it's ERPPC).
Happy problem

Timber Wolf: you can add Jump Jet to your upcoming Timber Wolf TBR-BH(S), by swapping in TBR-S left torso.
As with all OmniMechs, tradeoff is involved of course...

Ludo22, on 14 May 2021 - 09:12 PM, said:

I need a dire wolf and considering this one comes with ECM I'm sold.
I'm curious if I can put bigger ATMs on it that the ATM 6s that are stock.

As far as the Timberwolf, can you really have too many of them? Seems like a TBR-C(C) with ECMs.

Edited by w0qj, 14 May 2021 - 10:55 PM.

[XX Sulla XX]

I will be getting the pack because I like the ECM Timby. But I will also be getting it to show PGI I like the changes they are making.

[JC Daxion]

XX Sulla XX, on 14 May 2021 - 11:44 PM, said:

I will be getting the pack because I like the ECM Timby. But I will also be getting it to show PGI I like the changes they are making.

Yes, i think they have really been going in the right direction for a while now. Was around the same time i moved, so that is odd lol. Sorta like superstitious sports fan that have to wear their lucky shirt, i have a lucky apt!

[RestosIII]

I'm excited. Mostly because of the Mechlab/Battletech show reference skins, the bolt on elementals right beside it.

[x Deathstrike x]

FupDup, on 14 May 2021 - 04:36 PM, said:

Are you using LPL instead of HLL in your example builds?

Yes, as stated in my opening post I assume 2xLPL and 5xML.
Of course you will have more DHS on a Hellbringer if you use HLL.
But 2xHLL 5xML does not fit on a Timber with ECM properly without wasting tonnage.

And again you HAVE TO use the ECM on the hellbringer otherwise the comparison is useless because the entire point of comparing the Hellbringer and new Timber is due to ECM.

FupDup, on 14 May 2021 - 04:36 PM, said:

I don't typically take sensor tree. My path is usually survival, firepower, and operations to maximize my ability to survive damage and dish it out.

Is sensor tree ignoring meta? Could somebody from the comp players comment on that?
Considering the many pop-tart ATM and the loads of LRM all the time I find no radar derp at all a bit brave.
You just have to evade one LRM 80 salvo and you saved more armour that you could ever get with survival tree.

Edited by x Deathstrike x, 15 May 2021 - 12:39 AM.

[justcallme A S H]

Depends on the build. I know many Div A guys that will use Derps.

If you expect LRMs or similar the two left Radar Derpinas are very very powerful for the cost and can save you a lot more than armour tree will get by hard cancelling the lock. So I get them in some mechs for QP/FP. Absolutely.

It's a waste of anything you plan to play at 1000m+. Sub 900m as you're then within the LRM range. Also can be quite powerful against ATM poptarts too as if they have target decay they can hold the lock in cover so hard cancelling thst means you will need to over expose potentially to get the kick again.

Not so much in Comp specifically as yeah, if you don't expect LRMs it's a waste. Although if there is a NARC then you're getting boned in no matter what happens aa it ain't saving you.

[Bud Crue]

I for one like the look of these (especially the wire frame camo), and as one that has been looking forward to the Timber agility buffs, and been saving up for an Ultraviolet this is perfectly timed to appeal to me. So yeah, I do want to buy this mech pack.

That being said, while I am not a big fan of bolt-ons already, I gotta say that I really don't like those proposed Elemental bolt-ons. I get the appeal to nostalgia and all that, but to me those are just a reminder of the current game's limitations and lost potential. If they do put them in as proposed I certainly hope they will be in the category of bolt-ons that fall off when hit.

[PocketYoda]

Is the Direwolf a non omnipod variant?

[martian]

MechaGnome, on 16 May 2021 - 03:44 AM, said:

Is the Direwolf a non omnipod variant?

No, it is just another OmniMech.

[Remover of Obstacles]

Ludo22, on 14 May 2021 - 09:12 PM, said:

I need a dire wolf and considering this one comes with ECM I'm sold. I'm curious if I can put bigger ATMs on it that the ATM 6s that are stock. As far as the Timberwolf, can you really have too many of them? Seems like a TBR-C(C) with ECMs.

https://mech.nav-alp...#d7adea13_DWF-C
You can run three ATM12s or 2xATM12s in the arms and two ATM9s in the Left Torso (A pod).

Or quasi ATM48.
http://mechspecs.com...xjj-cecm.17726/

Edited by Remover of Obstacles, 16 May 2021 - 04:51 AM.

[x Deathstrike x]

105 Alpha Dire with ECM and JJ. Nice
https://mech.nav-alp...#6c87a129_DWF-C

Talking about mech delete button.

Edited by x Deathstrike x, 16 May 2021 - 04:13 AM.

[martian]

Remover of Obstacles, on 16 May 2021 - 04:11 AM, said:

https://mech.nav-alp...#d7adea13_DWF-C
You can run three ATM12s or 2xATM12s in the arms and two ATM9s in the Left Torso (A pod).

Not bad, but I would use laser instead of that Streak missile rack, just for situations when you can not get lock.

[Gas Guzzler]

x Deathstrike x, on 16 May 2021 - 04:13 AM, said:

105 Alpha Dire with ECM and JJ. Nice
https://mech.nav-alp...#6c87a129_DWF-C

Talking about mech delete button.

I think I'm just gonna stick with the ER LL version using the prime arms and side torsos. More armor and -10% heat gen quirk.

[VirtualRiot]

Try this one, 115 dmg alpha in about a second DWF-C, could probably get two alphas off without overheating with the right quirks and or cool shot

[lsp]

TBR still sucks though.

[justcallme A S H]

Y'all are crackerjacks.

The build you all want


DWF-C

[martian]

justcallme A S H, on 16 May 2021 - 11:42 PM, said:

Y'all are crackerjacks.

The build you all want


DWF-C

"Hold locks, please!"

[Elizander]

x Deathstrike x, on 14 May 2021 - 03:59 PM, said:

After a bit of thinking while I REALLY appreciate the Timber slots which is even useable with So8 both feel sliiiightly P2W if you ask me. Compared to the mediocre IS heavies, these two really bring something new to the battlefield.
Timber with ECM will be powerfull and Dire with ECM and one JJ in CT even more.

Timberwolf is still plagued with very low mounts. Those CT/ST mounts aren't nothing to write home about and the arm mounts are simply atrocious. A Hellbringer will still be able to put more lasers on you in one hill peek than an ECM Timberwolf can.

The Direwolf is still slow with bad twist angles. I'm not even sure that 1 JJ will help you wiggle up a cliffside in Canyon with how bad it is on 100 tonners.

Don't get me wrong, getting ECM/JJ on these things is great for the mechs if you like them, but they aren't gonna be broken by a long shot unless quirk pass + agility pass does something crazy to them.

[x Deathstrike x]

justcallme A S H, on 16 May 2021 - 11:42 PM, said:

Y'all are crackerjacks.

The build you all want


DWF-C

OMG... we all saw that coming didnt we?

EDIT:
Wait... where's the TAG? ASH!!

Edited by x Deathstrike x, 17 May 2021 - 01:41 AM.