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#101 LordNothing

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Posted 31 May 2021 - 10:31 PM

View PostWildstreak, on 29 May 2021 - 05:46 PM, said:

Finally tried a Rifle from MW5 and compiling a spreadsheet of all MW5 weapons.

They changed it from TT (not a complaint but an important note) in interesting ways.

- Does not do 'split' damage, TT is from what I have been told (Rifles came in after I had stopped playing TT) one damage value against Mechs, a different damage against non-Mechs. MW5 is listed as 1 flat damage value seemingly for everything.

- Unlike ACs, Heavy is the longest ranged one, Light the shortest. Heavy Rifle is also longer range than TT Long Range but not TT Extreme Range.

- heavier the rifle, faster the projectile speed.

- On the positive side Rifles put out good damage for their weight.

- Negatives include longer cooldown, some heat and low ammo per ton.

Chemical Lasers appear to use no ammo like they do in TT but have different stats.
Short Burst Lasers are described as being point defense weapons with their own unique stats.


ive decided that i like the mw5 implementation of rifles, ive already created 2 threads about it. if implemented in mwo in this way, it would fill in the low end of ballistic weapons quite well. would give light and medium mech ppfld ballistic options. low dps makes them suitable to hit and run tactics without being op.

filling this niche with lacs/pacs would pose other issues. these would almost certainly be range gimped dps weapons rather than ppfld weapons, possibly burst fire. otherwise they would take up design space occupied by snubs and lppcs. they would have the same range vs damage tradeoff relationship. but the rifles flip that around with the bigger gun getting the most range. you could use the rifle implementation and call them lacs/pacs, since you would need to give the clans something too (i feel like clans are currently hurting for ballistic options).

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Posted 31 May 2021 - 10:42 PM

Ok, but consider that I can already fit a Gauss, a Light Gauss, an AC/10, a UAC/10, two AC/5, two UAC/5, two UAC/2, two RAC/2, or three AC/2s onto an IS 45 tonner and do work with them. Do the rifles do enough damage per shot or fire fast enough to be worth taking over any of these alternatives? Assuming we did get Rifles, what really stops a Heavy Rifle from straight out-classing an AC/10 in a PPFLD use-case given its lower investment? Shoot, the Medium Rifle is so light and small that you can mount six of them onto a Jagermech, and it's all but a total form-fit-function replacement for an LAC/5; actually probably slightly better.

I dunno, man, seems like you end up in the same bind as LACs going this route.

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Posted 03 June 2021 - 04:46 AM

Now try fitting those weapons on less than 45 tons.

Rifles also reward high damage for skilled shooters with less facetime compared to those listed.

Edited by Wildstreak, 03 June 2021 - 04:47 AM.






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