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[Saint Dane Icaza]

Escef, on 16 May 2021 - 05:36 PM, said:

Heh, I wager you do.



No, that's not what I based my argument on, but, hey, good job trying to misrepresent me and lie about what I said. To me, of all people. Get better lies.

Then why bring up player skill as a slam against your argumentative opponent?

[Escef]

Saint Dane Icaza, on 16 May 2021 - 05:38 PM, said:

Then why bring up player skill as a slam against your argumentative opponent?

I retorted to his comment about how people should be playing other games based upon their human rights stances. I merely suggest a better criteria. And it isn't like I said anything that isn't common knowledge amongst long time players. You get into a match where you see HHoD tags and you know what to expect.

[Novakaine]

Escef, on 16 May 2021 - 05:43 PM, said:

I retorted to his comment about how people should be playing other games based upon their human rights stances. I merely suggest a better criteria. And it isn't like I said anything that isn't common knowledge amongst long time players. You get into a match where you see HHoD tags and you know what to expect.

Your epeen is weak much like your arguments.

[HammerMaster]

Escef, on 16 May 2021 - 05:36 PM, said:

Heh, I wager you do.



No, that's not what I based my argument on, but, hey, good job trying to misrepresent me and lie about what I said. To me, of all people. Get better lies.

I'm not following you down this rabbit hole of assumptions and your argumentativeness. I had to look this up and I'm offended that you assume I would take part in something like this with my heritage.

[Escef]

HammerMaster, on 16 May 2021 - 06:17 PM, said:

I'm not following you down this rabbit hole of assumptions and your argumentativeness. I had to look this up and I'm offended that you assume I would take part in something like this with my heritage.

I wager you already knew, and I wager what you are implying about your heritage is a lie. Why should I trust you? Why should I believe you? Hell, I honestly don't believe Novakaine's claims about his own ethnic heritage, either. I know reactionaries tend to be liars, and those that aren't are delusional. Deluding yourself, of course, is probably a good way to tell convincing lies. Can't be lying if you've convinced yourself it's true, right?

Anyway, yeah, thanks for reminding me how toxic this forum can be. I'd been away so long I'd kinda' forgotten.

[Novakaine]

Escef, on 16 May 2021 - 06:15 PM, said:

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You need to check that racism brother right now.
But if you like to talk about it come to the HHoD discord and we can have a friendly discussion.
The aspersions are quite unnecessary.
Please stop by I'm open to the conversion.

Edited by Ekson Valdez, 16 May 2021 - 10:23 PM.
quote cleanup

[HammerMaster]

Novakaine, on 16 May 2021 - 06:34 PM, said:

You need to check that racism brother right now.

Agreed. This has gone too far.

[Escef]

Novakaine, on 16 May 2021 - 06:34 PM, said:

You need to check that racism brother right now.
But if you like to talk about it come to the HHoD discord and we can have a friendly discussion.
The aspersions are quite unnecessary.
Please stop by I'm open to the conversion.

HammerMaster, on 16 May 2021 - 06:35 PM, said:

Agreed. This has gone too far.

I reported this thread and requested it be locked hours ago, because I knew where it was going.

As for accusations of racism, that's ironic considering the guy accusing me of it has been defending things other people perceive as racist. I can't even make this crap up.

[Novakaine]

Aw well I was looking forward to the discussion I tried.

[Escef]

Novakaine, on 16 May 2021 - 06:58 PM, said:

Aw well I was looking forward to the discussion I tried.

And what would we discuss? I've been on these boards and playing this game since early open beta, I've seen you posting pretty much the entire time. But you've never heard of me, you don't know who I am; nothing. No familiarity on your part at all. You tried? Do you pay any attention to anyone? At all? Ten bucks says this exact conversation could happen again in 6 months and you'd remember nothing of this one.

EDIT: Hell, I've been here over 9 years, and I have a significantly higher post count than you do. But apparently, you've never seen me before today because... I dunno, reasons? lol

Edited by Escef, 16 May 2021 - 07:14 PM.

[Novakaine]

Escef, on 16 May 2021 - 07:11 PM, said:

And what would we discuss? I've been on these boards and playing this game since early open beta, I've seen you posting pretty much the entire time. But you've never heard of me, you don't know who I am; nothing. No familiarity on your part at all. You tried? Do you pay any attention to anyone? At all? Ten bucks says this exact conversation could happen again in 6 months and you'd remember nothing of this one.

EDIT: Hell, I've been here over 9 years, and I have a significantly higher post count than you do. But apparently, you've never seen me before today because... I dunno, reasons? lol

I have no clue as to what you referring and yes I know you've been here forever like me.
Friend we can easily fix this if you're inclined to.
Although I'd bore you more talking about my garden and playing guitars.
Please stop by at any rate after 6 CST let's chat.
I think I see what the issue is.

Edited by Novakaine, 16 May 2021 - 07:36 PM.

[Jugger Grimrod]

Escef, on 16 May 2021 - 06:48 PM, said:

...things other people perceive as racist.

Thank you for admitting that the problem lies with your perceptions, not the merits of the argument. Names of mechs? Who cares? That's not my concern. My concern is why the OP felt the need to handle this complaint in this particular way. Why not through a direct message to our esteemed Community Manager? Or to Russ? Or Paul? Why to all of us? Why? What's the point, exactly? Forming a new club for sensitive mechwarriors? Why the call for a spotlight on the victimhood? Why the cry for attention?

This isn't about a name.

It's about someone feeling offended and wanting other people to acknowledge that feeling.

Ok. Fine. Acknowledged.

Don't care that you are offended.

Have a nice day.

[Escef]

Jugger Grimrod, on 16 May 2021 - 07:36 PM, said:

Thank you for admitting that the problem lies with your perceptions...

Perhaps you should go back to the start of the thread and read what I've been saying to and about the OP? Because you seem to be attributing things to me that I never said.

As for people posting on forums instead of addressing things in other venues... Hell, people make freakin' tech support complaints on the forums all the damned time. People post open letters (usually hate mail, whining, manifestos, etc.) directed at PGI on the forums all the time. It just seems to be what GamerKarens do.

[Novakaine]

Dude let's talk come see me when you can or I you.
I even agreed with you on a point.
And if I offended you in any way then I humble apologize.

Edited by Novakaine, 16 May 2021 - 07:54 PM.

[JP Josh]

Sean Malloy, on 16 May 2021 - 08:54 AM, said:

Sorry, Gents; McBarty has a point. Continuing to have a mech in here which is named after the leader of a racist, terrorist organization is not 'camp', it is tone deaf at best.

With the impending launch of MW5 across a bunch of platforms I am hoping to invite friends into the community. Grand Dragon is kinda dog whistle-ly and a definite turn off. If you want the community to grow you have to at the very least not shoot yourself in the foot with racist mech names.

you are proof that the internet needs a button that says " i promise not to be a little *****" before doing anything on it

Edited by JP Josh, 16 May 2021 - 08:13 PM.

[Alexander of Macedon]

TBH I'm starting to wonder if a couple accounts got hacked at this point.

[Scout Derek]

Escef, on 16 May 2021 - 06:15 PM, said:

Easy, *********. Edit: Aw, I can't call you Tom?

This is the based police, we've found your post extremely cringe and not hip.

[Y E O N N E]

Alexander of Macedon, on 16 May 2021 - 08:37 PM, said:

TBH I'm starting to wonder if a couple accounts got hacked at this point.

No. Escef is mentally unstable and has demonstrated this repeatedly over decade this game has been around. He talks down to everybody with zero self-awareness and seeks out disrespect against his person and opinions where none exists. Once he gets set off by whatever perceived injustice, he lashes out at anything and everything without regard for whether or not it has anything to do with him or even makes sense. And then he goes onto other platforms to whine about his experiences with the MWO community as if he was not the perpetrator. He even goes so far as to make cringey "takedown" videos about people he dislikes.

He's the definition of toxic and should be excised.

Edited by Y E O N N E, 16 May 2021 - 08:49 PM.

[Alex Morgaine]

Ok. I think 7 pages is enough for a bad joke.tickets to bird planet please.

[Escef]

Alex Morgaine, on 16 May 2021 - 09:04 PM, said:

Ok. I think 7 pages is enough for a bad joke.tickets to bird planet please.

Is it bad that I don't know how to pronounce it, and just call it Krakatoa?